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Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:53 am
by Jim Eshelman
Someone I know is in line for a possible windfall in the next six months and asked about ways to tip the odds favorably and, perhaps, increase the size of it significantly. With a new Solar Return before the end of the year, I found a place about three and a half hours from where my friend lives where the new Sidereal Solar Return would have the following (Class 2 angularity, Class 1 aspects). I've advised spending the birthday at that spot.

r Pluto Dsc -5°11'
t Saturn MC -4°24'

r Jupiter WP -1°19'
r Moon MC -0°35'
t Jupiter MC 0°00'
t Venus Dsc 0°00'

r Venus MC +2°23'
t Uranus Asc +3°17'
t Pluto +5°40'


t Venus-Jupiter sq. 0°00' mundo
t Pluto sq. r Jupiter 0°15' mundo
t Jupiter sq. r Pluto 0°19'
t Jupiter conj. r Moon 0°20'
t Venus sq. r Moon 0°35' mundo
t Saturn sq. r Pluto 0°47' mundo
t Uranus op. r Venus 0°54'

t Jupiter sq. r Jupiter 1°16' in RA
t Pluto conj. r Venus 1°18'
t Jupiter conj. r Venus 1°35'
t Saturn conj. r Moon 1°55'
t Jupiter-Saturn conj. 2°16'
t Uranus-Pluto sq. 2°23' mundo
t Venus sq. r Venus 2°23' mundo
t Uranus op. r Jupiter 2°38' mundo
t Jupiter-Pluto conj. 2°52'
t Saturn sq. r Jupiter 2°54'

I figure: In the worst case, it will be a great year! I'll keep everyone posted. (Saturn, of course, complicates this; the strategy is to overwhelmingly weight the chart in the benefic direction and not worry about Saturn conditions that are unavoidable.)

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:57 am
by Jim Eshelman
I promised to keep everyone posted on this. However, the details of the outcome are extremely confidential.

So I just want to give the generalizations that are important to this thread: My friend did win the thing in question. Everybody reading this would consider it a windfall (a large sum). I think the winning itself was a very big deal, and the financial reward of winning was a bigger deal in top of that.

It's pretty obvious that the three hour trip to pick the above SSR didn't hurt anything... and I'm inclined to mark it as another example of "picking your year" being worth the trip.

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:48 am
by FlorencedeZ.
What a great example.
It's my third year of having relocated my SSR.
Last year I went to Valfleury in France where I had t. Venus and t. Jupiter both exact at 0'00' degrees.
This year so far has been awesome with clearly Venus and Jupiter celebrating.
I moved away from a partile t. Venus-Saturn square and none of that pointed in that direction so for me too, the relocation has been clear evidence of where a SSR sets up.
I will write more about it when the year is over.
Regards, Flo

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:58 am
by Jim Eshelman
Thanks, Flo. I was going to write you for an update on your year for exactly that reason - I'm so happy the year has continued to be so happy.

As I recall, you also had one of those Jupiter 0°00', Venus 0°00', Venus square Jupiter 0°00' charts - just like the one above.

One of my slogans on this is that, hey, at the very least you will have a great birthday! <g> Even if people returned home from the birthday trip and experienced the full devastating fury of the "home base" SSR, they would at least have had a great birthday. But, after watching this for years in my own life (and examples like yours and the one above for other people), I'm convinced that the location where the SSR sets up will lock in for the year - and coming back home will have some effect (but not much).

SLRs are different. Like the Moon, they're adaptable. The reason to go to another location for the SLR is to add something, not to get away from something that will spring right back into play when you return home.

History of my recent SSRs

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:33 am
by Jim Eshelman
I could easily argue that I'm only still alive because of birthday decisions Marion and I have made from 2017 forward. (We travelled on birthdays occasionally in prior years, too, but the intentionality was acute with 2017. In 2016 we had a great Utah vacation and a fine enough SSR, but I'd have had a smashingly wonderful SSR if I'd stayed home.) We've gotten better over the years at making the most of what's astronomically available.

Oct 10, 2017: Denver, CO
3°20' Can - r Uranus
3°37' Can - r Jupiter
4°41' Can - MC
5°51' Lib - t Jupiter

28°55' Sag - r Mars
0°26' Lib - Asc
1°20' Lib - r Neptune
1°55' Ari - t Uranus

Oct 10, 2018: Milwaukee, WI
28°37' Lib - MC
28°58' Lib - t Jupiter
1°53' Sco - r Venus

3°20' Can - r Uranus
3°37' Can - r Jupiter
3°47' Cap - Asc

Oct 10, 2019: Goleta, CA
7°57' Lib - t Venus [on Dsc 0°03']
8°40' Ari - Asc
10°17' Ari - t Uranus [on Asc -1°24]
15°29' Lib - t Mercury [on Dsc -2°16]

25°38' Sag - t Pluto [on MC +0°11']
25°49' Sag - MC

Oct 10, 2020: near Littlefield, AZ
3°20' Can - r Uranus
3°32' Can - EP
3°37' Can - r Jupiter

14°30' Ari - t Uranus
14°57' Lib - r Saturn
16°40' Can - Asc
16°52' Lib - r Mercury

Oct 10, 202: Memphis, TN
27°23' Cap - t Jupiter [on IC +0°14']
28°02' Can - MC

1°53' Sco - r Venus
2°38' Sco - EP

17°20' Lib - r Mercury
18°45' Ari - t Uranus [on Dsc +2°10']
20°46' Lib - Asc

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:07 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:58 am SLRs are different. Like the Moon, they're adaptable. The reason to go to another location for the SLR is to add something, not to get away from something that will spring right back into play when you return home.
Can you give an example of adding something vs trying to get away from something?

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:27 am
by Jim Eshelman
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:07 am
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:58 am SLRs are different. Like the Moon, they're adaptable. The reason to go to another location for the SLR is to add something, not to get away from something that will spring right back into play when you return home.
Can you give an example of adding something vs trying to get away from something?
The key is that, with the SLR, both are equally strong. Something + Nothing = the original Something. Something + Different Something = something different.

Example 1 (Get away): You see that your new SLR will have Saturn on an angle. You can't get somewhere that has a benefic angular, so you at least head to where Saturn (and everything else) is off the angle. Outcome: You have one SLR with nothing on the angles and (once you get home) an equally viable SLR with Saturn on an angle. Result: The Saturn month you were going to have all along.

Example 2 (Add): You see that your new SLR will have Saturn on an angle. You CAN get somewhere that has a benefic angular, so you head there being careful to have the benefics as close to 0°00' from an angle as possible. (Micro orbs of 1-3', maybe to 5', seem so close to 100% certainty of manifestation that they overwhelm the "mere mortal" partile contact you left behind.) Outcome: You have one SLR with one or more benefics about 0°00' from the angles and (once you get home) an equally viable SLR with Saturn on an angle. Result: A heavily benefic month with a few grumpy things insisting on having their say.

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:39 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
So just running away from a Saturn partile to DSC to where Saturn isn't partile to the angle isn't good enough to change that. You have to put a benefic partile to an angle as well. OK.

But what if you can't put a benefic anywhere near to an angle. What if you can put another planet, maybe Mercury just for instance, partile to an angle while moving Saturn off? Clearly that wouldn't help as much as a benefic, but would it help some?

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:45 am
by Jim Eshelman
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:39 am But what if you can't put a benefic anywhere near to an angle. What if you can put another planet, maybe Mercury just for instance, partile to an angle while moving Saturn off? Clearly that wouldn't help as much as a benefic, but would it help some?
Putting anything at all super-close to an angle produces a chart with that energy really strong. I haven't tried it with Mercury, but in theory it's all the same: It doesn't get rid of the Saturn but does have Mercury stuff overwhelming the psychological and event space.

That is, it wouldn't contradict Saturn so much as make a different energy / different issues or themes dominate the focus of more of your life for the period.

Re: Can we trigger a windfall?

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:55 am
by Jim Eshelman
Some favorite examples.

JFK for his murder: SLR set up in Washington with a Jupiter-Pluto mundane opposition across the horizon. (Consistent with a coup or other overthrow of power.) He went to Dallas where Mars exactly squared Asc 29', as part of a more complex Mars-Venus-Uranus-Pluto that marked the day.

John Lennon for marriage to Yoko Ono: They left London and hit various countries looking for some place that would marry them. As the song said, they found their spot in Gibraltar, where his SLR has Venus 06' from square MC and natal Jupiter-Saturn rising. (Yoko's natal had Venus exactly on MC there + natal Sun on Desc in her SLR.)

Pres. Warren G. Harding died. Leaving Alaska with return charts already in force, he landed in San Francisco where his illness become more fierce, then he died. SLR in SF Mars on MC, Demi-SLR Saturn exactly on IC, Pluto on EP.

From my own life:

Went on a trip far away. Had great personal success with a new venture. Had a romantic encounter with strong positive impact. Full impact of the encounter didn't sink in until I got home. Both events changed my life. The various lunars:

SLR set up at home: Venus exactly angular, natal Mars moderately foreground.
Same SLR for other location: Sun rising on angular natal Venus-Pluto.
Demi-SLR set up at other location: Natal Venus-Pluto closely angular. Secondary angularities include Mercury, Mars, and Uranus.
Demi-SLR once I returned home: Venus-Jupiter conjunction on natal Sun angular.

The last one is perhaps the most relevant to the current discussion, since it involved going away, having a return while away, then coming back home and getting the effect of the way the chart existed at home.