Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

This is an odd one but I was just thinking, why do I find myself and so many other lunar type Leos to be associated with art, pleasure, inner-radiance and not just the bold, charismatic, god-king or the acting and entertainment words associated with other Leo Moons (other than the fact that the word entertaining {nasses} off introverted type people like me haha, #nothereforyourpleasure).

Then it dawned on me that it's not all lunar Leos I Know! It's leo Moons near Venus type stars towards the 13-tappering off before the end, also in coincidence the vedic system notes this same area being under Venus rule in their nakshatra system! In the Vedic nakshatra system the first 13 degrees or so of Leo is associated with Ketu but this area stands for "The fathers' family ancestors". With Regulus here we can clearly see themes of Jupiter and slightly maybe Mars (with the already present Sun energy), if I had to guess (and of course this is just a hunch) Jupiters exaltation is probably somewhere within the first 13°.

So what about this artistic type (I always called them cubs)? Zosma and other fixed stars in addition with the Venus association with 13.2-26 or so degrees Leo in the Vedic system, has supported me noting that the middle towards the end of Leo Moons have distinct Venus-type themes (some say with Saturn and the more introverted nature would support this) in addition with the Sun-Jupiter ones present.(Lavish types, more glutton, more inward radiance-ambition and wealth collection needs, artistic/poetic/romantic and a patron of the arts, perfection, and likely hedonism in some cases).
I kind of think the reason the Moon Leos Venus type sticks out more is in part of the moons plastic nature and the moons easy connect to Venus energy.

Sorry if this needs moved to experimental let me know.

Soft Alpaca wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:29 am This is an odd one but I was just thinking, why do I find myself and so many other lunar type Leos to be associated with art, pleasure, inner-radiance and not just the bold, charismatic, god-king or the acting and entertainment words associated with other Leo Moons (other than the fact that the word entertaining {nasses} off introverted type people like me haha, #nothereforyourpleasure).

the "god-king" thing is more appropriate for Sun in Leo than Moon. Moon, remember, expresses about our adaptions to our physical, social, and psychological environments, not our experience of "who we are." I'm not sure where you're drawing the line, but the Leo Moons I know (and know of) generally have no particular line between between the "art, pleasure," etc. thing and their innately dramatic, entertaining, gregarious responses. - Generally, Leo Moons are not introverts (though, of course, there are always going to be a few). (I love Leo Moon's, but "associated with inner radiance" is not something I'd associate with them - they're way better at outer radiance.) Broadly, "the arts" is a Leo Moon theme.

I'm not clear on the distinction you're drawing - what exactly you're observing that seems different to you - so I can't comment much.

Then it dawned on me that it's not all lunar Leos I Know! It's leo Moons near Venus type stars towards the 13-tappering off before the end...

In the traditional model, the Venus nakshatra begins at 13°20' Leo though (too long a story to go into here) I think it maty not start until 3°20' later (which would exclude your Moon). Fixed stars are a possibility, but these have very tiny (about 1° orbs, possibly less).

...the end of Leo Moons have distinct Venus-type themes

I don't see it. There is an arts orientation popping up throughout the constellation among people I know best, from very early to middle to late Leo Moons. (Not everybody; but those who show it best are spread out.) Again, possibly I'm not getting the exact distinction you're seeing.

Among the famnous, Paul Gauguin had Moon 9°05' Leo - he certainly wasn't less Venus-like than the typical Leo Moon. Meanwhile, would you put Madonna in the more or less Venusy theme (17°23')? Rugged, grainy actor Harry Dean Stanton had 21°16' Moon. Child-0murderer Bruno Hauptman had 24°03'. Is Bill Cosby or Ike Turner more Venussy than average at 25°56' and 20°23', or Gloria Vanderbilt less at 6°25' (or graceful, statuesque Rene Russo at 1°53')? Granted, there is Donatella Versace at 23°03'.

I remain quite skeptical of any sub-dividing of a sign into sub-regions with different interpretive characteristics, whether decanates, Noviens, nakshatras, or whatever. I've never seen them hold up statistically or empirical examination. Fixed stars are a separate matter, theoretically, because they are actual astronomical bodies that may have valid "aspects" (instead of a change in the homogenous character of the signs).

But I want to encourage you to keep really looking at what you see in charts and people so, especially if I've completely missed the boat on what you're talking about, please clarify. (I just flipped through almost 100 Leo Moon charts of people I know or know a lot about and the really outstanding "there's more Venus here!" cases all - to a one - had Taurus or Libra Suns, e.g., Frank Lloyd Wright.)

I think Venus is just the best way to describe it that I know of. Either way their is a distinct difference in Leo Moons with introverted personalities and extraverted (however their may be other over-lapping factors I may have missed such as how Jupiter is expressed by the native or if they have Moon interacting with Neptune or Pluto). Your list dwarves mine so that's that.

It may just be my own disconnect with most of how the sign is applied that other Leo Moon folks I meet may also share. (For me calling my core entertaining is a little disturbing because I have issues with being other peoples play things- this isn't a corner stone I like). It may just be me being an introverted fire sign heavy person.

I wonder if it's something really simple like... Your Moon is in mid-Leo. You're a certain personality type and connect to certain kinds of people. So you see people with Moon's near yours that match the kind of people you knew.

I mean there is a possibility but there is a very very distinct difference between types of Leos I come across. Some are entertaining, radiant and warm, others are astute, aloof, and cutting (getting to business) the first are clearly extrovert types (that match your description) the second while they do maintain inner radiance (a inner shining light) and a softness under their cutting nature are rather introverted, they are very distinct- very different. The second also uses far more discrimination and artistically uses it to express themselves (I see less acting and.more private arts).

And it could be more simple, other chart effects that make a native introverted changes the nature of their extroverted Leo sign moon (sorry but this is a little bit of a duh on my end).

How many examples of Leo Moons with aspects to Pluto within the first 13° degrees of Leo do we have (as this could be a huge sign towards introverted nature in this sign, in fact I think it's why Aries stands out versus leo and sagittarius- they (Aries) deal with society on a less personal level.)

Soft Alpaca wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:24 pm How many examples of Leo Moons with aspects to Pluto within the first 13° degrees of Leo do we have (as this could be a huge sign towards introverted nature in this sign, in fact I think it's why Aries stands out versus leo and sagittarius- they (Aries) deal with society on a less personal level.)

These are all somewhat complicated reports to run but, off the top of my head, my wife has Moon and Pluto conjunct at 16° Leo within 0°39' (both square Sun).

She's not a deep introvert, though. I always test almost precisely on the 50-50 line for extraverft-introvert and she's definitely more extraverted than I am.

Aries "stands out" in which way? (Not sure what you meant by that last sentence. And did you mean Sun or Moon?)

Aries is the only fire sign with direct contact to a ruler that will lean on the introverted side on your 50-50 scale. And I guess I see more Leos apply to the extroverted side of the scale (but on those who don't i think the words I use to describe them wouldn't be words like entertaining, which is something that you may see but we find exhausting, I'm definitely outgoing but it's often mistaken as extroverted).