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Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:48 am
by SteveS
Did Fagan innovate/invent Quotidian Charting? If not, who is the known astrologer who did?

Re: Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:16 am
by Jupiter Sets at Dawn
SteveS wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:48 am Did Fagan innovate/invent Quotidian Charting?
No.
If not, who is the known astrologer who did?
Goes back to Valens at least, and probably before. Ancient technique I think.

Also called quotidians, not "quotidian charting." We don't need more names for the same things. ;)

Re: Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:38 am
by SteveS
Thanks JSAD.

Re: Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:48 am
by Jim Eshelman
I didn't know about Vakens. That's neat :)

I think Fagan's path into Quotidians was an old technique called the Diurnal Chart, that I know he used in the '30s.The Diurnal is a stand-alone chart that one calculates every day for the exact time one was born. It just so happens that, for that moment, the Diurnal and the Q1 SNQ always have identical angles (and move a degree a day). I think that at some point he realized the Diurnal worked under a progressions theory (which also explains his early insistence on the Q1).

Re: Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:59 am
by SteveS
Quotidians are my favorite chart to analyze since I know they are highly reliable with Solar Ingresses, as well with my NQ & SQ charts since I do a-lot of electing for me on certain Quotidian days. Quotidians are valuable to me with Championship games since I already know in advance what day a Championship game will occurr. If anyone knows of any good reading material for Quotidians by other astrologers, let me know. For now, I know no better written material on Quotidians than Jim's work with Quotidians.

Re: Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:14 am
by Jim Eshelman
The best examples I've seen in print were in American Astrology articles by Fagan and Bradley (and occasionally others). Books mention calculating method and not much else.

The term barely has any usage outside of Sidereal literature even though it isn't an inherently Sidereal technique.

Steve, I hope Ken Bowser gets his Solunars series of books out soon - perhaps the most important gap in your exposure to Sidereal literature is in not having had the chance to read Fagan's "Solunars" series from beginning to end, 1953-1970. There is much in the early days that he later moved past, but every page of it is important for development, example, to see where thought went, and things nobody knows about anymore. There is raw data but, more importantly, you get to live nearly two decades of the actual invention and uncovering of things. If you can find a way to read these, it would delight you (and engage your mind) no end.

Re: Question

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:31 am
by SteveS
Jim wrote:
Steve, I hope Ken Bowser gets his Solunars series of books out soon - perhaps the most important gap in your exposure to Sidereal literature is in not having had the chance to read Fagan's "Solunars" series from beginning to end, 1953-1970. There is much in the early days that he later moved past, but every page of it is important for development, example, to see where thought went, and things nobody knows about anymore. There is raw data but, more importantly, you get to live nearly two decades of the actual invention and uncovering of things. If you can find a way to read these, it would delight you (and engage your mind) no end.
Jim, right after I met Matthew online, I thought I had found a reliable source to purchase for 1,500 $ all of the Solunars from 1953-1970; that is how valuable I knew they would be for the kind of astrological work I wanted to apply for my life. The source proved to be unreliable when I was going to drive to the source :(. Thank you and the Universe for your teachings on this forum. :)