Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:57 pm
by puddleinspace
According to my birth certificate my birth information is:
July 7th, 1984. 10:59am Tulsa, OK, USA.
I have recently been studying asteroids and other planets. I have recently learned about Sedna and my opposing Scorpio moon. My chart indicates possible fame in the arts or social justice. Lots of struggles in love and still single at almost 40. I have repressed childhood trauma. Work hard everyday on myself to grow and become a better person. Would love to learn anything you can tell me.
Thank you
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:09 pm
by Jim Eshelman
puddleinspace wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:57 pm
According to my birth certificate my birth information is:
July 7th, 1984. 10:59am Tulsa, OK, USA.
I have recently been studying asteroids and other planets. I have recently learned about Sedna and my opposing Scorpio moon. My chart indicates possible fame in the arts or social justice. Lots of struggles in love and still single at almost 40. I have repressed childhood trauma. Work hard everyday on myself to grow and become a better person. Would love to learn anything you can tell me.
Puddle, while reading your paragraph immediately above, I quickly thought that most of this sounded like a strong Saturn - and, lo, I see that not only is Moon opposite Eris 0°28', it's conjunct Sturn 0°46' on the other side!
I'm also not sure if you realized that this is a Sidereal astrology site. (You mentioned in the other thread your Sun in Cancer, whereas we see it in Gemini). This means that we have quite a few new perspectives to share with you - the first of which (given your deep commitment to arts and social justice) is that
your Moon is in Libra.
I'll work up a summary of some main features of your chart. Meanwhile, you might want to look up these detailed descriptions of your luminary sign placements:
Moon in Libra:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34#p148
Sun in Gemini:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35#p157
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:31 pm
by puddleinspace
My mind is already blown! Definitely feel lost without my other half. Especially trying to find my true calling. It feels like I need that other person to make the machine run. Other people are muses to me, creatively. I think this is why loneliness cuts so deep. Hope to find my other half someday.
Music feeds my soul and nothing touches me quite like music does. I’m a painter. Love design and decorating.
In all of my astrological readings I have never read anything that pointed out my life long struggle with karmic triads until now. Just.. wow. I was raised with a sibling triad, most toxic friend groups have been triads. The power of 3.
Moon in Libra.. I have a lot of tattoos. Most of my body is covered. With my Sun and Venus tied up together, I am very attractive to some.
Pain can be pleasure. I often oscillate between extreme repression and wild behavior.
Learning about my strong Saturn and synastry is really what lead me to asteroids and other planets. I kept looking for love in the sign of my Saturn ruler. Which was not working for me at all. Hello power struggles.
Thanks for all your info so far. Love it. 🥰🥰🥰
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:42 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Puddle, I'm about to post some notes on your natal chart. A couple of preliminary remarks:
First, you shared some difficult details of your early life. The notes probably won't reflect that clearly because they're intended to bias slightly positive. You can draw your own conclusions from the character and circumstances it describes.
Second, because of your specific interest, I'm including most details of Eris and Sedna even when they aren't the strongest factors in every case. Understand that closer aspects are more important than wider ones. I usually exclude moderate-to-wide aspects, but have left these in for you because you're especially interested in the topic.
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:53 pm
by Jim Eshelman
These notes on your Sidereal Natal Horoscope are provided for your reference and study. They are not a full interpretation of your birth chart; rather, they are building blocks from which a full interpretation can be built.
Each factor listed below contributes to your character. These paragraphs commonly repeat or contradict each other. (We all have contradictions.) Though it does not take an astrologer to fuse these factors into a balanced picture of you and your life, it does require knowledge of human behavior and the ways that people support and sabotage themselves. Knowing yourself is a life-long undertaking. I encourage you to read through these notes, feeling your way through the interweaving ideas and reflecting on what you know of yourself.
The paragraphs are brief. I have sought to pack in everything essential, to use a few words to imply much more. Not every phrase will apply, of course. Some will be more important than others; but the gist of each section should clearly reflect truth about you. When you have spent time with this and have new questions, consult your astrologer to discuss them.
Character is destiny. Who you are determines the life that is yours to unfold. “Know thyself” is the key.
ANGULAR PLANETS & FOREGROUND ASPECTS
Uranus on Antimeridian (0°55')
Strongly individualistic, independent, going their own way. Needs freedom and breathing room (physical, intellectual) and frequent renewal (through new interests and experiences, shedding inhibitions, shaking loose stale conditions). Responds strongly to the new, unexpected, thrilling, colorful, exciting. Pragmatic realist anchored by naked truth. Clownish, fun. Prefers disclosure over mystery.
Mercury square Uranus (2°08' PVP)
Independent thinker. Curiosity and investigative spirit in most things. Mind unfettered by formality: solves problems and integrates data more intuitively. Rejects linearity, lacks rigor in learning. Many interests, diverse, often unusual (including astrology or occultism). Speech engages others’ attention, usually has something interesting to say; challenges convention or authority, dares to speak despite consequences. Gentle rebellious behavior (“bad girl”) seems rooted in, “Don’t tell me how to think.” Socially odd, but not unpopular for it.
SUN in GEMINI
Acute nervous system. Speed, rhythm, variety (dispersion). More reason than belief. Courageous. Egalitarian; rejects forced stratification: “What’s expected” often makes no sense to them. Play, youthful. Needs affection, connection; feels loneliness deeply, often alienated. Music, arts, business. Mechanical, technical.
Sun square Eris (0°28')
A disruptor to the established order and conditions (curious, trickster, mischievous): Open to outlier possibilities. Navigates chaos with practical advantage (leaving a wake of chaos: has little native resistance to disorder).
Sun trine Mars (1°56')
Drive, courage, energy. Restless, moody, impatient, temperamental, stubbornly if silently prideful. Strong sexual needs. Industrious, instinctive leader.
MOON in LIBRA
Popular, polite, friendly, attractive. Passionate, determined. Emotionally efficient (private, controlling). Defiantly self-sufficient. Sexual magnetism, seductive personality. Justice (righting wrongs) cares deeply about human rights and social wrongs. Seeks agreement. Aesthetic (fine art, design). (Morbid expressions: alienation, breakdown of social adjustment.)
Moon opposite Sedna (0°26')
Slight misfits (some charmingly, some belligerently), independent but not disconnected, willing to “run separate from the pack.” Experiences the universe as a foreign language, has trouble “reading the signs” or interpreting signals (others’ reality and use of language seem inscrutable). Insightful, grasps answers without logical paths. Visions of haunting mystery. At worst, a very few express monstrous, sadistic cruelty.
Moon conjunct Saturn (0°47')
Proud, self-made. Dynamic, hardworking, persistent, self-driving. Encourages growth in others (expects them to do something worthy of their abilities). Usually emotionally reserved, private. Seeks (often unconscious) total control of situations and relationships. Parent-themed issues to work through (nourishment-deprivation, etc.). Judgmental (intolerant). Can be pessimistic, distrustful, little self-confidence, passive-aggressive, feeling inferior, anxious, depressed. Many enter religious or social work for mixed motives of service, self-immolation, and seeking control.
Moon sextile Jupiter (1°54')
Desires success. Drawn to quality. Good-humored, entertaining, kind, generous (natural host). Strong beliefs (religious or patriotic intensity, morality, judgment). Often difficulty applying persistent effort.
Moon conjunct Mars (4°48')
Active-reactive; temper. Detests idleness. Driven, competent, ambitious. Impatient, acerbic, irritable. Frank, sharp-tongued (friction in relationships). Needs physical, emotional, and mental room to breathe. Possible substance abuse. Sexual needs strong, hard to repress.
MERCURY in CANCER
Mind strongly influenced by feelings (romantic, subjective, infused with imagination). Writing style leverages imagery. Edits, modifies, and embellishes ideas, polishing and rehashing. Planners, organizers. Gives insightful counsel.
Mercury square Pluto (2°18')
Thinking is atypical, unbeholden to convention, outlier. Probing, investigative, thinks deeply about things. Mind may skirt the edge of normalcy (may slip off). Forthright, candid (needs authentic communication); can alienate with words (challenging, confrontational). Excitable about inquiries and new ideas (enthusiasm; burnout?). Impatient (irritated by obstacles, poor frustration tolerance). Instinct for abstract mathematics (great composers, chess players, physicists).
VENUS in GEMINI
Playful, fun. Seeks companions specially to share curiosities and explorations (strengthened by partnering with their “other”). Broadly open to sexual opportunities. Interested in unusual, specialized artistic fields; keen awareness of form.
Venus square Pluto (5°24' mundo)
Instinctively rejects arbitrary values on love and sex (often challenging social codes). “All or nothing” intimacy. Seeks deep connection. (Does not “play it safe” in relationships.) Few intimates typically. Sexual development may come late (adolescent social rituals are perplexing).
Venus square Eris (5°30')
Sexuality is unusually free from shame. Finds flowering or fertility in chaos. When sexually involved, expresses it with unusual “no holding back” freedom. Indifferent to others’ or society's rules: Faithful to their own moral rules, while entirely free from judging, shaming, or condemning others’ choices (willing to be a disruptor).
Venus octile Sedna
<EXPERIMENTAL FACTOR> Gorgeous, sexy, libertine, charming, often with a wicked sense of humor. Visceral, powerfully feeling, wild and colorful imagination. Women are called to ancient, primal expressions of femininity while wielding significant public power.
MARS in LIBRA
Warm, sociable, likable. Independent, self-sufficient, survivors (slow to ask for help). Persistent, serious, intent. Interesting, odd (disreputable?), on the outskirts. Ego distinction prevails over ego-submersion (but wants marriage). Passion for social justice. Feminine thrives better than masculine (feminist). Women aggressively protect families, friends (power, impact). Substance abuse problems.
Mars octile Neptune (0°51')
Thrives amidst stirred passion and drama. Supercharged imagination. Surges into temptation; impatient with frustrated gratification; requires rapid conformity of reality to wants (usually gets it). Zealous enthusiasms. Dramatic aggressions; anger patterns triggered by frustration. Sexually magnetic (yet sexual demons and doubts). Great stamina for long-term vision.
Mars conjunct Saturn (4°02')
Struggle marks these lives (from prejudice or early hardship). Hardened, tough survivors, self-sufficient, seeking control. Some accept the hardship and focus on “getting through”; some act meek, unthreatening; others overcompensate as bullies (feelings of weakness, shame, inadequacy). Conflicts with authority. Serious, reserved, cautious about enthusiasms.
Mars octile Sedna (5°15')
<EXPERIMENTAL FACTOR> Warm camaraderie, collaboration, work enthusiasm: Ready to step up and help, strong on service. Lives at peace with variable, nonconsensual reality (few hard lines or lanes, not accountable to others for it). Passion for justice, to “do what’s right” (make right what is wrong, expunge shame). Sexually open, libertine, unjudging of self and others. Perverse, creative imagination.
OUTER PLANET ASPECTS
Saturn opposite Sedna (1°13')
<EXPERIMENTAL FACTOR> Drawn to roots, ancient origins, old foundations, traditions as sources of guiding myth; yet with a desire to let them bring new growth fitting to the time.
Neptune sextile Pluto (0°18')
Open to shifting viewpoint, alternative perspectives, variant possibilities: Potential to forge a new worldview and enroll others. Uncertainty feeds desire for certainty, regarding things a certain way and not other.
Jupiter sextile Saturn (2°40')
Practical, sensible. Responsible, conscientious, patient. Earns one’s own place. Balances gain and loss: what is won from losing, what it costs to win (politics, finance). Tuned to tradition, orthodoxies; cornerstones of their circles.
Jupiter trine Sedna (1°27')
<EXPERIMENTAL FACTOR> Innovators, ambitious. Myth is core to their personal and public power, either by invoking a mythic context of embodying an archetype (or character). May wield a belief system as a tool of power and control (often horrific, not always so). Among the successful, their name, character, or act make a powerful imprint on their time.
Jupiter square Eris (4°25')
Chaos brings out the best in them (rises to the occasion best when things are falling apart). Disruptive circumstances around success and prosperity (self-defeating); manages the greatest prosperity in uncertain, undecided times and conditions.
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:33 pm
by puddleinspace
Thank you so much Jim, for taking the time to research me and write this. I’m not sure there’s anything written in here that I would even dispute as not factual about me.
My favorite quote from your writing might be: “Pragmatic realist anchored by naked truth.”
Is the mythic figure I embody to take over the world Sedna? (Joking) But it does seem she carries a lot of anger with her from all of the wrong doings she’s suffered in life and uses them as a weapon of power and pain.
I believe that knowledge is our power and *knowing* that I am capable of harming on a large sadistic level, is the first step in making sure I use my powers for good. I have a running joke with my best friend that I am 10% percent evil. There’s this little demon in me that’s motivated by pleasure only. Sometimes she gets the best of me. Learning that physical exercise helps calm the sex demon down.
I am a social worker by trade (bet you guessed that one!
) and the writing is correct, I got into this field because I am naturally good at it and it was an easy way for me to make money without too much effort. But, it’s actually a blessing because I am called to remember that helping people without my own motives is the way my compass needs to point.
I recently discovered composing music and I absolutely love it. Abstract math. 🧚
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Thank you again, I throughly enjoyed learning this information you have shared with me today.
I will use my innate powers for the good of humanity, practice kindness, and do no harm to others. 🧚
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Puddle
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:46 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Lol this is wonderful.
The lesson here is to trust astrology. I nearly deleted the parenthetical about social work, thinking, "Oh, that's not what she said she's into, let's tighten this up." Then I though, "Oh, leave it in. There must be something in there that will speak to her." I guess, indeed, there was.
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:22 am
by Jim Eshelman
Puddle, happy birthday!
I'm not sure if you still live in Tulsa. Regardless of where you are for your birthday, your new Sidereal Solar Return has a very exact Moon-Mars opposition. This all squares your Mercury - involving your mind and words in the mix.
7°06' Can - r Mercury
7°09' Ari - s Mars
7°22' Lib - s Moon
Moon-Mars wrote:Circumstances arouse a fierce emotional response... inciting anger and inflaming passions. Strongly sexual. Extremely busy (drive, feeling of strength; highly competent, productive, hasty). Needs elbow room and freedom to act (won't be held back). Competitive (quarrelsome). Environment seems threatening, harsh, confrontive (...attacked, prone to irritation, tolerant). Other people can be seen as very critical, toxic, not emotionally safe. Possible sickness, injury, accidents, physical discomfort (see rest of chart).
Moon-Mercury wrote:Curiosity, willingness to learn (learning, reading, speculation, conversing, travel). Data storage and retrieval (active mind, quick perception). Communication flows well (psychic; talkative, large phone bills). Apt to respond to emotional issues using objective (analytic, intellectual) criteria and tactics. Sensitized nervous system (high-strung; insomnia, proclivity to use stimulants and depressants).
If you're in Tulsa, this tone is offset by a closely rising Venus. If you'd like to let us know where you are for your birthday, we'd be happy to add a few notes on your next year.
In any case, happy birthday!
Re: Please Teach Me Something New
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:17 am
by Jim Eshelman
You seem to be on a roll of Mars. Last year's Solar Return had transiting Mars about 1° from Descendant, so the year was probably marked by hard work, the expenditure of energy, aggression aimed at you (the good kind or the bad kind). Since it was a triple Venus-Mars-Saturn aspect, I'd have expected some emotionally rough stuff.
The new Solar Return occurs tomorrow (a little later this year) at 4:31 AM CDT. If you are at any unusual location away from KC, please feel free to let us know. The strongest planet is Neptune 0°04' from square Ascendant, but Venus is second strongest. Natal Neptune is also strong. Here is a summary (from TMSA) of the primary chart factors:
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Pl Longitude Lat Speed RA Decl Azi Alt PVL Ang G
Transiting Planets
Ne 00Pi21'49" 01S11 - 0'20" 356°16' 02S55 149°12' +43°25' 298°26' 100% F
Ve 23Ta19'10" 01S05 + 1°12' 77°28' 21N51 65°02' + 4°07' 355°27' 94% F
Me 11Ge15'00" 00N24 + 2°04' 96°53' 23N41 51°10' - 7°23' 9°26' 78% F
Mo 07Li21'49" 01N38 +13°39' 210°48' 10S47 283°35' -32°40' 146°35' 1%
Ma 07Ar08'36" 01S48 +41'44" 30°39' 10N32 103°55' +32°38' 326°35' 1%
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Radical Planets
Ne 05Sg05'34" 01N13 - 0°02' 270°09' 22S14 236°43' + 4°13' 185°03' 93% F
Me 07Cn06'09" 01N49 + 1°50' 124°51' 21N27 30°01' -23°26' 40°55' 23%
Pl 04Li47'44" 16N59 - 0'04" 213°41' 04N30 294°02' -20°13' 158°02' 17%
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Class 1 Aspects Other Partile Aspects
tMo op tMa 00°00'100% M tMa sq rMe 00°02'100%
---------------------- tJu sq rJu 00°27'100%
tMo sq rMe 00°16'100% ----------------------
tMo co rPl 02°34' 91% rMo co rMa 00°38' 99% M
rMo co rSa 00°31'100% M