Amber Heard

Discussion of horoscopes of possible general interest.
Post Reply
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19068
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Amber Heard

Post by Jim Eshelman »

Amber Heard was born April 22, 1986, Austin, TX, time unknown. I speculate she was born at 5:00 AM.

Having nothing else to go on, this was one of my first attempts to use Noviens as a rectification tool, almost entirely based on its connection to Johnny Depp's natal and Novien. (Per his birth record, he was born June 9, 1963, 8:44 AM CST, Owensboro, KY.) [Date was originally wrongly stated as 6/3, and a few remarks below arise from that wrong date.]

For almost any time of day, her partile Mercury-Neptune square forms a T-square with Moon. This spectification puts that T-square on angles along with an angular Mars. I find this a credible description of her character.

Something else I like about this time: One of the details that both sides have raised is that in the beginning of their relationship Depp showered her with expensive gifts. Unless he does this routinely, it suggests that his Jupiter is on one of her angles (since it contacts nothing but her Mars). This birth time puts his Jupiter on her Ascendant.

For Fairfax, VA where the trial is being held, the current lunar returns may or may not be descriptive of current circumstances, including her almost universal condemnation in social media and news media alike. The main feature of her April 15 SLR for Fairfax is her natal Mercury-Neptune square on angles and (a little more widely) her Uranus rising, while Moons ride high on Midheaven. The May 12 SLR will be an interesting test of this time since a verdict is likely to emerge under it: Transiting Jupiter is near MC and suggests she is the victor.

Depp's current SSR for Fairfax has Neptune on MC and Venus on Asc, plenty of ammunition for public humiliation. Natal Moon is setting with natal Jupiter (which squares it) on Zenith, so there are positives in it. His current (May 2) SLR has natal Jupiter exactly on IC, so he is in an extremely positive period, probably outweighing the vague Jupiter angularity of her SLR.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
ODdOnLifeItself
Constellation Member
Constellation Member
Posts: 182
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:04 am

Re: Amber Heard

Post by ODdOnLifeItself »

Using your time, I note that when her account was hacked and nude pictures of her were posted against her will; Pluto was directly squaring her Ascendant. [not proof, but a handy corroboration, since the symbolism is perfect]
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19068
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Amber Heard

Post by Jim Eshelman »

Interesting. When was that date/place?
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
ODdOnLifeItself
Constellation Member
Constellation Member
Posts: 182
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:04 am

Re: Amber Heard

Post by ODdOnLifeItself »

"The Fappening" occurred on August 31, 2014... don't know where she was at the time.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19068
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Amber Heard

Post by Jim Eshelman »

ODdOnLifeItself wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:10 am "The Fappening" occurred on August 31, 2014... don't know where she was at the time.
That Pluto transit is quite exact and doesn't hit anything else. For a slightly later time, she would have had transiting Uranus conjunct her Ascendant (if my estimation is correct, it's only an approximation to, say, the quarter hour, though I like the afflicted Mercury exactly rising).

Looking at the rest of the chart (other than time-dependent things like the angles), I don't see much. I generally disregard transiting trines and sextiles (as not inciting action) but they do sometimes show as conditions of the planets and the sense of "I am frozen and can't do anything" (probably the reason they are much more common for suicides). In this case, transiting Neptune is 0°01' from sextile natal Neptune (anxiety) and 21' from trine natal Pluto (which seems more existential than anything else). At best, that's just emotional 'backdrop'.

Oh, wait, one other thing: Transiting Mars is tightly octile natal Mercury-Neptune. That would at least be the daily timer, the sense of invasion or violation. Over the next 24 hours, Sun squared her Saturn. So there were at least small transits.

But the Pluto transit would indeed give it a larger impact, mark it as a bigger event in her life.

Solar arcs are the most interesting, though (given that we don't have a location, which would give us the return charts). Drawing orbs from this proposed time, directed Venus was 0°04' from opposite natal Uranus - as descriptive an aspect as one might want. An interesting direction that might tend to confirm the general time is Moon opposite natal Sun (though this was in a larger period when she was started to get increased attention anyway). Two contradictory and curious directions are Saturn to her MC (37' applying) and Jupiter to her Asc (19' separating) - the Saturn was, in any case conjunct her Neptune 30', square her Mercury 04'. A lot of solar arc activity and at least some of it quite fitting. (I'm not sure about that Jupiter to Asc, though, I don't think this really boosted her standing.)
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19068
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Amber Heard

Post by Jim Eshelman »

After correcting Depp's natal, though the one most interesting contact is no longer there (I thought her Novien Sun was approximately the degree of his natal Moon in Libra), the alignments are still remarkably strong, especially the malignancy between her Novien for this approximate time and his Novien. It might benefit from being slightly earlier - bringing, for example, her Novien Moon even closer to square his Novien Mars - but this isn't necessary since (with his birth time corrected) her Mars conjoins his Moon closely in their nativities. (Interestingly, when I had his birth day wrong, her Novien Mars aspected his Novien Moon within a couple of degrees - the aspect that actually exists in the nativities.)

There isn't anything to suggest shifting this other than small amounts. That is, at most we can pick which of his malefics most closely aspects her Moon in the Noviens, since all three of them are close. For the 5 AM time, the closest is his Neptune (partile) though his Mars is close (just over a degree) and his Saturn not much farther (a bit over 2°).

Another suggestion that the time is approximately right: In progressing her chart to the moment and place of his birth, we find a half-degree progressed Moon-Saturn conjunction squared by 'transiting' Pluto:

15°03' Sco - p Saturn
15°24' Leo - Depp's Pluto
15°36' Sco - p Moon

(His progressions to her date and place of birth are also interesting, but not relevant to the question of finding her birth time.)
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
ODdOnLifeItself
Constellation Member
Constellation Member
Posts: 182
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:04 am

Re: Amber Heard

Post by ODdOnLifeItself »

Here's a nice event for you to test...

Amber Heard is arrested at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on September 14, 2009. (misdemeanor assault)

The charges were later dropped and it was chalked up to a misunderstanding, but still, the arrest and the "violence" should show up in the astrology.

We get Mars opposite Mars and square her Ascendant with that day's diurnal. Neptune square Venus (though not confirming the exact time) does fit a "misunderstanding in relationship, where things are other than they seem." There is an exact Sun conjunct Venus progression at this time. (0° 0' orb) Jupiter-Moon and Venus-Midheaven hint at the more positive outcome. (record basically expunged)
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19068
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Amber Heard

Post by Jim Eshelman »

Justice is served.

At just after 3 PM today in Fairfax, VA the jury returned its verdict, finding for Depp in his claim that Heard libeled him and awarding him $15 million, while also finding for Heard in her claim that Depp's lawyer slandered her and awarding her $2 million.

Somewhat confusingly, the verdict seems to say that it is both true that her claims about Depp were fake, but her claims about him were not a hoax.

The main win for Depp likely isn't the money award so much as the legal finding that her abuse claims against him were false. This likely could be the greatest value for his career.

The chart for 3 PM is a fitting mandala of a contentious lawsuit climaxing, with Moon at MC square a Mars-Jupiter conjunction on Descendant. Moon square Mars is the main aspect by orb and tightness of angularity.

Regarding what we know for sure of her chart, transiting Mars conjoined her Mercury and squared her Neptune - I'm sure quite fitting for the event. If my speculative time is approximately correct, Jupiter was within 1° of opposition to her Moon, which may or may not be fitting depending on how important the $2M offset was to her and what the event actually meant to her. (It seems probably not fitting.)

In contrast, Depp (whose birthtime we know) had transiting Venus exactly conjunct his MC. Mercury conjoined his natal Mercury-Venus conjunction (but with a barely in orb Saturn to his Mercury). Overall, he was happy.

If my speculative time is correct, Amber had transiting Saturn closely rising in partile mundane aspect to natal Saturn on MC in her May 25 demi-lunar, which is entirely fitting.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
Post Reply