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Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:03 am
by Gary Noel
Astrodatabank just posted Hillary Clinton's birth data based on birth certificate: October 26, 1947 at 6:45 PM CST in Chicago, Illinois. Rodden rating is AA.

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:19 am
by Jim Eshelman
Wow! This is big! - NONE of the times previously reported were correct.

Off to dig deeper. Thanks, Gary!

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:38 am
by Jim Eshelman
It looks solid, including a photograph of the relevant parts of the birth certificate. The only possible complaint seems to be something that could be complained about most birth certificate: It was signed two days later.

BIRTH: Moon is in Pisces, not Aquarius, with its closest aspects being octile to Mercury (43'), trine to Jupiter, square to Uranus (the latter probably giving the Aquarius feel). Mercury 0°03' from WP-a, Venus 1°05' from WP, Mars 1°55' from IC, Pluto 3°01' from IC.

Bill's Moon is 0°22' from her EP (which changes the picture of their already-known Moon-Saturn interchange a lot). Monica Lewinski's Saturn 4°35' Gemini squares Hillary's 4°31' Pisces Moon within 0°04'!

LITTLE ROCK: Jupiter 0°36' from Dsc. Venus 0°54' from WP-a. (First Lady of the state, daughter born, shared ambitions accelerated.)

WASHINGTON, DC: Jupiter 0°10' from WP-a. Local IC 2°31' Leo conjunct Bill' Sun 2°01' Leo.

NEW YORK CITY: Uranus 1°21' from Asc. Of at least minor interest, natal Mercury-Saturn square 0°01' in mundo for NYC.

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:50 am
by Jim Eshelman
Chelsea's birth February 27, 1980, 11:24 PM CST, Little Rock, AR

2/18/80 SLR is mixed. (Were there complications I don't know about?) We expect Moon and benefics and no Mars or Neptune. Class 2 angularities include

t Sun EP 0°32'
r Mars Dsc 3°17'
r Jupiter MC 4°10'
t Uranus MC 5°10'

The great fit is in the aspects:
t Sun-Pluto op 2°02', t Sun-Jupiter co 2°04' M
r Mars-Jupiter sq 0°53' M, r Mars-Pluto co 0°37'
Slightly wider Jupiter square her Saturn, Saturn conjunct her Pluto

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:02 am
by Jim Eshelman
Lost election for U.S. President: Using November 9, 2016, 0:00 EST, New York, NY
Saturn was the most angular planet in both the SLR and Demi-SLR (9' from the angle in the SLR). Look at the disillusionment aspects!

SLR 10/14/16:
t Saturn on EP 0°09'
t Venus on Asc 2°16'
r Jupiter on Asc 2°38'
t Neptune on IC 3°08'
r Mercury on Asc 4°26'
-- t Venus-Neptune sq 0°53' (to natal Mercury)

Demi-SLR 10/27/16:
r Saturn on Z 1°13'
r Jupiter on EP 1°24'
r Mercury on Asc 2°39'
r Venus on Asc 3°24'
-- t Neptune sq r Jupiter 2°01' M

SOLAR ARCS
d Asc conjunct r Saturn 0°27', sq r Mercury 0°26' {agghhh! if we'd only known!}

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:13 am
by FlorencedeZ.
Jim, SF shows her Moon in Pisces.
Chicago, Illinois CST +6.
Regards, Flo

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:03 am
by Jim Eshelman
FlorencedeZ. wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:13 am Jim, SF shows her Moon in Pisces.
Chicago, Illinois CST +6.
Yes. Isn't that what I said above? (I'll go back and see where I might have said anything different.)

Re: Hillary Clinton's Birth Time

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:27 am
by Patrick Machado
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:38 amBIRTH: Moon is in Aries, not Aquarius...