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Sibel Deniz Edmonds

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:34 pm
by Jim Eshelman
From the old forum...
SteveS wrote:A rated: 1/18/1970 5:00 AM Istanbul, Turkey
Sibel Deniz Edmonds is a former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) translator and founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). Edmonds gained public attention following her firing from her position as a language specialist at the FBI's Washington Field Office in March 2002. She has been described as "the most gagged person in American history" by the American Civil Liberties Union.
A most interesting FBI case pertaining to the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks—read the bio. Note her 2002 DC SSR where her SSR Saturn 13,40 Tau is cnj her Natal Moon 14,51 Tau, ‘locked into collusion’ for the entire solar year. Also note during her 2002 solar year SSR Moon progessess to exact conjunctions to her Natal Mars and SSR Mars, and for the deep emotional impact her SSR Moon progresses to exact 180 of her Natal Pluto. We see here her p. 2002 SSR Moon activates her Natal Mars-Pluto 180. I have often posted on this forum the timing accuracy of secondary progressed SSR Moons to partile aspects of Natal and Solar Return Planets. Her 2002 SSR is classic Sidereal Astrology teachings about the importance of SSR Moons. Her p. 2002 SSR Moon produced hard core Moon-Mars-Pluto symbolism for her, and Ebertin writes about Moon-Mars-Pluto:
A woman who stands alone in the world.
Sibel certainly stood alone when she blew the Whistle on the FBI, and then received harsh attacks (Mars) from the FBI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds

Re: Sibel Deniz Edmonds

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:34 pm
by Jim Eshelman
SteveS wrote:Sibel’s Natal Signature is clearly Uranus cnj MC receiving a partile 120 from her Moon. Some statements about Moon-Uranus from Ebertin:
Attentiveness, ambition, the tendency to act according to one’s inner instinct, a strong self-willedness, the tendency to strive for a goal or an objective, peculiar interest, individualism, female reformists.
Probable Manifestations: (+) Sacrifices for the attainment of special aims. (-) The tendency to overdo things either in work or in the pursuit of objectives leads easily to an overstrain on the nervous system. States of fear or anxiety.

Re: Sibel Deniz Edmonds

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:34 pm
by Jim Eshelman
The three foreground planets are Uranus (3°46' from MC), Moon (6°31' from Dsc), and Pluto (7°29' from MC).

Yes, from the natus (horoscope) the standout aspect is Uranus at MC in 0°24' trine to Moon, both planets being foreground. This is even stronger because of the < 3° Moon-Uranus mundane square.

And then I'd peg Pluto as essentially as strong. The natus has a partile Sun-Pluto trine (0°19', her closest aspect), Pluto is foreground, and there is a partile mundane square between the foreground Pluto and Moon (0°58'). If mundane aspects are valid in a natus (and I'm pretty sure that at least those among foreground planets are valid), then Pluto is even stronger than Uranus.

Here's another trick for finding complex, hidden planetary patterns of importance (which is another way of filtering out important midpoints): If two pairs of planets have the same distance between them, then the four are locked into a midpoint structure. For example, if there are two trines in the chart - it doesn't matter where in the chart they are! - and their orbs are roughly the same, then we can strike a line down the middle of where the aspect lines cross. (This is terribly hard to make clear without a picture. Set up Sibil's chart:)

Sibil has Sun trine Pluto (0°19') and Moon trine Uranus (0°24'). When you look at the chart, you can see that the Sun/Moon midpoint is going to be on the same axis as the Uranus/Pluto midpoint: Su/Mo=Ur/Pl. Calculating, we find that Su/Mo is 9°04' Virgo and Ur/Pl is 8°43' Virgo, 0°21' apart (the average of the two aspect orbs). We don't have to do the math to know that the midpoint pattern is there, we know it in a second from seeing the two partile trines. We now know that anytime something hits about 9° Virgo-Pisces, it's going to set off major stuff in her life.

We can't look at every possible four-planet combination in practice, and they aren't all too important; but notice, in this case, that the pattern exists with pairs of planets already in aspect, and that it also involves two luminaries. We already know there are very strong Sun-Pluto and Moon-Uranus energies, and combining them as Sun/Moon and Uranus/Pluto just gives us a different perspective on this, another "how the parts of the psyche cross wire" sort of thing.

Her chart has another example for the same technique - it just doesn't involve luminaries or foreground planets. Sibil has Jupiter opposite Saturn (2°06') and Mars opposite Pluto (2°18'). Same aspect, almost identical orb. Careful calculation shows that Ma/Ju=Sa/Pl within 0°06' (half the difference of their orbs).

Just mentioning a curio while I have a good example.

Re: Sibel Deniz Edmonds

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:35 pm
by Jim Eshelman
SteveS wrote:Jim wrote:
We already know there are very strong Sun-Pluto and Moon-Uranus energies, and combining them as Sun/Moon and Uranus/Pluto just gives us a different perspective on this, another "how the parts of the psyche cross wire" sort of thing.
Excellent observation Jim. I think all midpoints involved with the lights are important to consider, particularly involving partile aspects, and for sure any midpoints involved with the angles when the planets are foreground.

Re: Sibel Deniz Edmonds

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:26 am
by SteveS
I love to look into certain midpoint strutures with bio's or when someone tells me certain details about their private lives that are not seen with symbolism in the standard Natal Chart. Sometimes certain midpoint structures tells me exactly the WHYS of major happenings in a person's life which have greatly troubled em. The Germain Schools of Midpoint Astrology did a great service to astrologers with their work, IMHO.