Solunars by Aldebaran Sidereal Academy

National Guard officers opened fire on Kent State University students during a protest of U.S. attacks on Cambodia. Guardsmen discharged 67 rounds in 13 seconds. Four students were killed and nine others wounded. The shooting began May 4, 1970, 12:24 PM EDT, Kent, OH.

Year: Capsolar & Cansolar
The Capsolar & Cansolar are both dormant, although the closest planets to the angle are quite accurate. For example, both ahve Mars about 5° from the MC. Nonetheless, we skip them both. .

Quarter: Arisolar
The Arisolar has Jupiter square Ascendant (0°36'). Moon is 2°32' below Ascendant, which is consistent with a passionate populist movement (such as occurred on the campus that week). Sun is 8°+ from MC.

Based on the Jupiter, this is a bad showing.

Month: Capsolar
Mercury (stationary) sq. Asc (2°04') & 4°290' east of MC
Saturn on MC (5°40' west)
-- Therefore, the Me/Sa midpoint is 0°35' from MC
Not great, but not too bad.

Week: Arilunar
Dormant. (The aspects are quite good - again, about 5° off the angles - but nothing is close enough to activate the chart for that location.)

Day: Capsolar quotidian & transits
CanQ Moon conj. CanQ Saturn (0°14')
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t. Pluto conj. Capsolar IC (0°42')
This is our first clear sign of the event. Interestingly, transiting Moon was in the same degree.

Day: Cansolar quotidian & transits
CanQ Moon sq. Cansolar Mars (1°03')
CanQ Asc conj CanQ Mars (0°21'), sq. CanQ Moon (1°30')
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t. Sun sq. Cansolar Asc (0°23')
t. Mercury sq. Cansolar Moon (0°40')

Overall, this is a really poor showing. The daily charts step up. However, the longer term charts miss the point entirely and even speak at odds with the actual event.

Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:The Kent State shootings were very much a national event.

Agreed. However, when I did the charts for Washington (suitable for a national event), the charts were even worse than for Ohio. Astrologically, Kent State was almost a non-event.

The lunar progressions of both the Caplunar and Canlunar were both on-target, though. The angular Moons are also valuable as showing popular mass mind in motion (the "populist uprisings" aspect of the Moon).

But that Jupiter angular in the Arisolar is a killer. This is, in many ways, what we would expect to be the most important chart of the set, and it is hardly descriptive of military assaults (including military killings) against the nation's own citizens.

Jupiter speaks of victories, prosperity, and cause for celebration. It shines in events involving royalty, aristocracy, elitism, and diplomacy, and events that fuel abundant national pride.

We could say that this represented an ideological divide except that most conflicts represent an ideological divide, and I refuse to accept that Jupiter is representative of the actual event. (If the event on the day was a minor skirmish - no deaths, no long-term effects - then I'd accept the Jupiter as showing the broader tone of the times and speaking out; but this isn't the type of event that we have here, we have, as you said, a turning point in history.

Jupiter shows major victories, whether military victories or major athletic competitions, etc. I don't think we can accept an abstract "this eventually led to the right outcome" interpretation, so if we accept this as a significant victory we have to regard the National Guard as being the heroes who won the day and killed the bad-guys. That's not how I see the event.

A strong afflicted prominent Jupiter often shows an assault against the prevailing social or governmental paradigm. However, this Jupiter wasn't afflicted. (It's only aspect is a moderately wide square to Moon.) The closest affliction I can find is that it is at the Sun/Saturn midpoint; but we're going to be in a lot of trouble if we have to start looking at every midpoint in an ingress to get the basic tone right.

It wasn't a singular victory, not a diplomatic event, not a national celebration, didn't involve royalty, was hardly a festival or entertainment context, and it didn't even rain! <vbg>

The closest analogue I can find is not a close one. In the broad category of ideological, religious, or inspirational events, once you get past the terrorist events (I don't consider the student actions to be anything like terrorist actions), we do find a series of events that were marked by people passionately standing up for something in which they believed powerfully. The first Selma march, called "Bloody Sunday," had Jupiter for the month and week. Martin Luther King's final Memphis speech just before he was killed had Jupiter marking the month (with Neptune IIRC). Bobby Kennedy's victory in the California primary in the hours before his murder marked the same kind of ideological wave shown by the LA charts for the year, quarter, and week. The peaceful Stonewall riots had Jupiter marking the year and month. Jupiter was on a Caplunar angle for the storming of the Bastille.

I suppose this is the interpretative direction. Some of these events show that unbelievably costly violence is not incompatible with the Jupiter placement. However, the other events had other factors showing the nuances of the event, and Kent's charts do not. It's just really hard for me to accept the event as a whole as being fundamentally shown by an unafflcted Jupiter.

(Written in real time, May 13, 2017 after migrating the above from the old site.

Copying this thread over got me thinking... I want to look at that Arisolar again. We've learned so much since this thread was posted, and we have so many new avenues... maybe there is something fresh to see.

For basics, the Arisolar immediately before the riots and killings had:

7°03' Cancer Asc
7°39' Libra Jupiter

That's what holds attention most, what I commented on most, what seems most off (unless there is an alternate view of it I'd missed). The only other thing foreground is Moon (close, 2°32' below Asc) and Sun wider, 8°27' from MC).

I especially wanted to see how Jupiter was aspected. At first glance, there was nothing. Then... oh, hmm, does this mean anything... hmm?? I noticed, at 7°04' Aries (0°01' from square Ascendant and half a degree from opposite Jupiter) the minor planet Sedna.

I have no idea of this means anything... but, having found it, I couldn't fail to mention it.

One other recently discovered distant planet was involved. You couldn't tell it ecliptically, but you could tell it in the mundoscope. That foreground Sun was 1°11' from mundane conjunction with a foreground Eris.

FWIW.

This was such an important event, and the charts were so disappointing, I wanted to apply what I've learned in the last year.

Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat May 13, 2017 4:09 pm Year: Capsolar & Cansolar
The Capsolar & Cansolar are both dormant, although the closest planets to the angle are quite accurate. For example, both have Mars about 5° from the MC. Nonetheless, we skip them both.

The Capsolar has a Moon-Saturn conjunction that is worth mentioning, though wide and universal. The Cansolar looks so compelling with Mars ecliptically 1°29' from MC, but that stretches to 5° in mundo, and the evidence is quite consistent that this is what matters.

Quarter: Arisolar
The Arisolar has Jupiter square Ascendant (0°36'). Moon is 2°32' below Ascendant, which is consistent with a passionate populist movement (such as occurred on the campus that week). Sun is 8°+ from MC. Based on the Jupiter, this is a bad showing.

One added factor - I think it minor in the face of that Jupiter - is a Venus-Saturn conjunction (2°23' in mundo) that only exists mundanely, and so is location-specific. The solar ingresses, at best, aren't carrying their weight unless that potentially meaningful Jupiter is run through different lunar and daily filters.

Month: Capsolar
Mercury (stationary) sq. Asc (2°04') & 4°290' east of MC
Saturn on MC (5°40' west)
-- Therefore, the Me/Sa midpoint is 0°35' from MC
Not great, but not too bad.

Nothing to add. A chart of "nobody is listening."

Week: Arilunar
Dormant. (The aspects are quite good - again, about 5° off the angles - but nothing is close enough to activate the chart for that location.)

Day: Capsolar quotidian & transits
CapQ Moon conj. CapQ Saturn (0°14')
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t. Pluto conj. Capsolar IC (0°42')
This is our first clear sign of the event. Interestingly, transiting Moon was in the same degree.

The daily charts remain the best we have. I can't be unhappy about these at all. Nothing new to add.

Day: Cansolar quotidian & transits
CanQ Moon sq. Cansolar Mars (1°03')
CanQ Asc conj CanQ Mars (0°21'), sq. CanQ Moon (1°30')
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t. Sun sq. Cansolar Asc (0°23')
t. Mercury sq. Cansolar Moon (0°40')

Ditto with the importance of the CanQ. It is dead-on, with emphasis on the deadly.

So none of the new chart elements I've been testing apply. What IS missing here, though, is assessment of the Bridge. Here is how that breaks down:

Bridge
t. Pluto conj. Capsolar IC 1/14-10/1
CapQ Moon conj. Capsolar/CapQ Saturn 3/30-5/26
CanQ Moon sq. Cansolar Mars 5/5-7/8
Event window: May 5-26

And that was the missing agreement - though it's still imperfect. The event was May 4. Technically, the event window began the next day, and was limited to about three weeks of the year, with lunar progressions to Mars and Saturn, plus Pluto crossing an angle.

The Moon-Mars progression in the Cansolar was day short of its partile orb, but it did come exactly to CanQ Ascendant on the day of the event. This seems to have pulled it into activity (the quotidian contact with Mars would have done so regardless).

I feel better about this now. I'd had this in the back of my head as a pivotal, critical event that showed badly. Instead, the story is that the Bridge singled out three weeks or so that very accurately described the event's quality. The Caplunar said nobody was listening and bad stuff would happen. The daily markers caught it admirably.

I should also check this for Washington, DC, given it's powerful, echoing national impact.

Year: Capsolar (Dormant.) Moon-Saturn conj. (3°41')

Year: Cansolar
Moon on Dsc (2°14')
Venus on IC (6°38')

XTRA: Pluto 1°04' before Vx in azimuth
-- Moon-Pluto mundane square 1°10' in altitude-amplitude
Sun-Neptune sq. (1°46', only in mundo)

Bridge
CapQ Moon conj. Capsolar/CapQ Saturn 3/30-5/26
CanQ Moon sq. Cansolar Mars 5/5-7/8
Event window: May 5-26

Quarter: Arisolar
Moon on Asc (0°29')
Jupiter sq. Asc (1°42')
Sun on MC (3°23')

XTRA: Venus-Saturn conjunct (2°39' only in mundo

Month: Caplunar
Mercury on MC (0°11', stationary)
Venus-Neptune op. (0°16')
-- Venus sq. Asc (2°39')
-- Neptune sq. Asc (2°55')

Week: Arilunar
Pluto sq. Asc (1°28')

XTRA: (aspects that only exist in mundo)
Mars-Pluto sq. (0°32')
Uranus-Pluto conj. (1°04')
Mars-Uranus sq. (1°36')
Venus-Mars conj. (3°07')

Day: Capsolar Quotidian
p Moon conj. p Saturn (0°14')

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits
p Moon sq. s Mars (1°03')
p Asc op. t Venus (-0°52')
p MC conj. s Pluto (+0°47'), t Pluto (-1°12')
-- implicit Venus-Pluto sq. (0°20')
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t Venus conj. s IC (0°30')
t Mercury sq. s Asc (0°58')