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U.S. Presidents' natal positions

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:21 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Here is a catalogue of U.S. presidents' natal positions using the best birth data available for each. I provide this to study patterns in positions and, especially, to compare them to the chart of the U.S. Presidency itself, i.e., the first inauguration of George Washington at 12:45 PM LAT April 30, 1789 in New York City. The Presidency positions are listed in larger, bold type for easy comparison. Part of the purpose of this thread is to see if there are obvious clumpings of locations where planets have appeared over the centuries.

For Class C data, I will give angles but cross them out. For Class D data, I won't list them.

USA natal positions are in bold red.

Hub positions

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:21 pm
by Jim Eshelman
0°05' Aqu - Buchanan Pluto
0°08' Aqu - Kennedy Uranus
0°09' Tau - Hayes Mars
0°10' Tau - Presidency MC
0°23' Tau - Trump MC
0°32' Tau - Monroe Mercury
0°44' Tau - Jackson Mars
1°04' Leo - Obama Uranus
1°23' Aqu - Lincoln Sun
| 1°36' Tau - L Johnson MC
|1°40' Leo - Grant Mars
|1°47' Aqu - Bush 1 Mars
|1°57' Tau - Washington Asc
|1°58' Sco - Madison Moon
|2°01' Leo - Clinton Sun
|2°12' Aqu - Carter Mars
|2°14' Sco - Washington Mars
|2°29' Sco - Van Buren Mercury
2°35' Aqu - USA Moon
|2°47' Leo - Trump Mars
|3°07' Leo - L Johnson Jupiter
3°36' Aqu - Polk Pluto
3°37' Sco - Biden Sun
3°52' Sco - Garfield Sun
3°53' - Pierce Neptune
3°58' Tau - Nixon Saturn
4°06' Aqu - F Roosevelt Mercury
4°16' Tau - F Roosevelt Pluto
4°20' Leo - L Johnson Asc
4°31' Tau - Adams 1 Saturn
4°37' Sco - Biden Venus
4°38' Leo - B Harrison Sun
4°42' Tau - A Johnson Moon
4°42' Sco - Obama MC
4°43' Leo - Pierce Moon
4°52' Leo - Taft Moon
5°30' Aqu - McKinley Mercury
5°44' Tau - Bush 1 Mercury
5°51' Aqu - Madison Uranus
5°59' Leo - Trump Asc
6°15' Leo - Presidency Asc
6°25' Tau - Taft Uranus
6°25' Tau - Hoover Asc
6°40' Sco - Adams 1 Mercury
7°06' Tau - Coolidge MC
7°14' Sco - Garfield Mercury
7°16' Tau - Truman Pluto
7°21' Sco - Taylor Mercury
7°26' Sco - Pierce Mercury
7°29' Aqu - T Roosevelt MC
7°32' Sco - A Johnson Saturn
7°54' Leo - Jefferson Saturn
7°58' Aqu - Taylor Jupiter
8°09' Tau - Truman Mercury
8°18' Aqu - Madison Mercury
8°25' Tau - Buchanan Venus
8°32' Sco - Fillmore Venus
8°34' Leo - L Johnson Mars
8°50' Tau - Biden Uranus
9°09' Tau - Obama Moon
9°15' Sco - Biden Asc
9°20' Sco - Pierce Sun
9°21' Leo - B Harrison Mercury
9°27' Sco - Polk Mercury
9°36' Aqu - Fillmore Pluto
9°45' Tau - T Roosevelt Uranus
9°54' Leo - Adams 2 Venus
9°58' Aqu - Nixon Venus
10°16' Aqu - Reagan Venus
10°19' Leo - L Johnson Sun
10°24' Sco - Ford Moon
10°57' Aqu - Monroe Saturn
11°04' Sco - Lincoln Saturn
11°13' Aqu - Hayes MC
11°22' Sco - Taylor Sun
11°46' Leo - Jackson Neptune
11°48' Leo - Adams 2 Neptune
12°19' Aqu - Washington Sun
12°20' Leo - Coolidge Asc
12°21' Tau - Ford Venus
12°44' Aqu - Cleveland Mercury
12°47' Leo - Obama Pluto
12°54' Sco - Eisenhower Venus
13°16' Tau - Eisenhower Neptune
13°20' Aqu - Cleveland Uranus
13°30' Sco - A Johnson Neptune
13°33' Leo - Jefferson Jupiter
13°46' Tau - Fillmore Moon
13°59' Tau - Bush 1 MC
14°10' Tau - Hayes Jupiter
14°26' Tau - Eisenhower Pluto
14°15' Tau - Kennedy Sun
14°36' Sco - Lincoln Neptune
14°37' Sco - Van Buren Venus
14°42' Sco - Monroe MC
15°19' Leo - Bush 2 Mars
15°22' Leo - Polk Uranus
15°22' Sco - Lincoln MC
15°26' Aqu - Pierce Pluto
15°27' Sco - Madison Pluto
15°34' Tau - Hayes Moon
16°01' Tau - Biden Saturn
16°07' Leo - L Johnson Moon
|16°53' Sco - Fillmore Mars
|16°56' Leo - L Johnson Mercury
|17°09' Tau - Truman Saturn
17°18' Tau - USA Uranus
|17°29' Leo - Bush 1 Asc
|18°08' Aqu - WH Harrison Jupiter
18°14' Aqu - Lincoln Mercury
18°30' Sco - Madison Asc
18°46' Sco - Arthur Jupiter
19°03' Sco - Washington Uranus
19°15' Aqu - Harding Asc
19°31' Leo - Eisenhower Saturn
19°34' Leo - WH Harrison Saturn
19°40' Tau - Ford Saturn
19°41' Aqu - Cleveland Venus
20°31' Sco - Bush 1 Jupiter
20°35' Tau - Polk Saturn
20°38' Aqu - A Johnson Pluto
20°45' Sco - Carter Jupiter
20°57' Aqu - A Johnson Jupiter
21°28' Leo - Garfield Saturn
21°32' Aqu - Lincoln Pluto
21°37' Aqu - Tyler Mercury
21°53' Sco - Van Buren Sun
22°14' Sco - Madison Saturn
22°15' Tau - Jackson Saturn
22°44' Tau - Nixon MC
23°09' Tau - Kennedy Venus
23°34' Sco - Van Buren Asc
23°37' Leo - Kennedy Moon
23°53' Leo - Nixon Asc
23°54' Tau - Trump Uranus
23°40' Tau - Washington Neptune
24°48' Leo - F Roosevelt Uranus
25°06' Aqu - Carter Uranus
25°10' Aqu - Wilson Neptune
25°10' Tau - Bush 2 Uranus
25°20' Sco - T Roosevelt Venus
25°36' Aqu - Cleveland MC
25°40' Leo - Jackson Jupiter
25°58' Leo - Biden MC
26°05' Leo - WH Harrison Neptune
26°33' Aqu - Buchanan MC
26°44' Leo - Adams 2 Jupiter
27°09' Tau - Clinton Uranus
27°13' Sco - Trump Moon
27°24' Sco - Jefferson Asc
27°30' Leo - Carter Mercury
27°33' Sco - Monroe Jupiter
27°34' Sco - Harding MC
27°41' Tau - Bush 1 Sun
27°45' Aqu - Bush 1 Uranus
28°07' - B Harrison Mars
28°18' Tau - T Roosevelt Jupiter
28°22' Leo - Obama Mars
28°15' Aqu - Presidency Saturn
28°28' Aqu - Taft Neptubne
28°35' Leo - WH Harrison Moon
|28°56' Tau - Trump Sun
|29°02' Tau - F Roosevelt MC
|29°19' Leo - Hayes Venus
26°26' Leo - Jackson Moon (DD)
29°37' Tau - USA Mars
|29°43' Aqu - T Roosevelt Neptune
|29°47' Sco - Fillmore Asc
||29°54' Sco - Adams 1 Uranus

Spoke positions

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:21 pm
by Jim Eshelman
||0°00' Pis - Lincoln Jupiter
0°01' Sag - Jefferson Moon
||0°10' Vir - F Roosevelt Asc
0°14' Vir - Tyler Moon
||0°22' Vir - Taft Sun
||0°28' Pis - Tyler Venus
||0°33' Pis - Grant Venus
|0°41' Vir - Buchanan Jupiter
0°48' Vir - USA Neptune
0°57' Sag - Van Buren Moon
1°06' Vir - Truman Uranus
1°24' Sag - Monroe Pluto
1°48' Gem - Fillmore Jupiter
1°51' Gem - T Roosevelt Asc
1°57' Gem - Adams 1 MC
2°14' Gem - L Johnson Pluto
2°36' Gem - Reagan Pluto
2°59' Vir - Adams 1 Asc
3°00' Pis - Jackson Sun
3°04' Sag - A Johnson Mercury
3°39' Vir - Arthur Mars
3°54' Gem - F Roosevelt Mars
4°13' Pis - Monroe Uranus
4°22' Sag - Fillmore Mercury
4°35' Vir - Harrison 2 Saturn
4°43' Sag - Harding Jupiter
4°45' Sag - McKinley Venus
5°01' Vir - Madison MC
5°01' Pis - Madison Sun
5°08' Gem - Adams 1 Neptune
5°08' Gem - Nixon Pluto
5°10' - Fillmore Uranus
5°15' Gem - Hayes Asc
5°20' Gem - Adams 2 Saturn
5°24' Gem - Garfield MC
5°26' Pis - Cleveland Sun
5°42' Vir - Garfield Asc
5°47' Pis - Tyler Saturn
6°13' Sag - Nixon Mars
6°27' Vir - Hoover Venus
6°29' Sag - Nixon Mercury
6°34' Gem - Ford Pluto
6°37' Pis - Jefferson Mercury
6°50' Vir - Polk Mars
6°52' Gem - Coolidge Moon
7°12' Gem - Coolidge Mars
7°25' Pis - Hayes Pluto
7°35' Gem - Obama Venus
7°35' Vir - Biden Neptune
7°46' Vir - Hoover Jupiter
7°59' Pis - Grant Pluto
8°09' Pis - McKinley Uranus
8°09' Sag - Nixon Jupiter
8°25' Pis - Washington Venus
8°33' Sag - Jackson Asc
8°34' Pis - Wilson Jupiter
8°53' Sag - Taylor Venus
9°35' Sag - Van Buren Saturn
9°40' Pis - Monroe Venus
9°41' Gem - Kennedy Pluto
|10°18' Vir - Eisenhower Mercury
|10°20' Sag - Hayes Neptune
|10°33' Sag - Reagan Mars
|10°48' Gem - Harding Uranus
|10°51' Gem - Truman Venus
11°14' Gem - USA Venus
|11°20' Sag - Hayes Uranus
|11°31' Vir - Clinton Asc
|11°32' Pis - Jackson Mercury
|11°41' Pis - Washington Saturn
|11°51' Vir - Trump Neptune
11°52' Sag - Tyler MC
11°52' Vir - Adams 2 Asc
|11°57' Vir - Bush 2 Neptune
|11°59' Gem - Clinton MC
12°22' Vir - Clinton Mars
12°27' Gem - Adams 2 MC
12°45' Sag - Van Buren Jupiter
12°52' Vir - Clinton Neptune
12°53' Sag - Grant Neptune
13°03' Sag - Pierce MC
13°03' Sag - Arthur Moon
13°09' Gem - F Roosevelt Moon
14°16' Gem - USA Jupiter
|14°23' Vir - Carter Sun
|14°32' Gem - Van Buren Uranus
|14°52' Gem - Trump Mercury
|14°55' Pis - Tyler Asc
|15°01' Sag - Grant Uranus
|15°03' Sag - Wilson Sun
|15°04' Pis - Arthur Pluto
15°17' Vir - Van Buren MC
15°21' Sag - A Johnson Sun
15°23' Pis - Lincoln Venus
15°29' Pis - Harding Neptune
15°40' Pis - L Johnson Saturn
16°08' Sag - Monroe Moon
16°20' Pis - Garfield Pluto
16°22' Vir - Jefferson MC
16°37' Gem - Coolidge Venus
17°08' Pis - Tyler Sun
17°08' Vir - Clinton Venus
17°20' Gem - Cleveland Asc
17°30' Sag - Adams 1 Jupiter
17°33' Gem - Buchanan Asc
17°37' Vir - Washington Jupiter
17°40' Gem - Bush 1 Pluto
17°51' Vir - A Johnson Mars
18°06' Pis - Pierce Asc
18°09' Vir - Van Buren Neptune
18°15' Gem - Wilson Saturn
18°17' Gem - Jefferson Neptune
18°19' Sag - Ford Jupiter
18°33' Pis - Jackson Venus
18°45' Vir - Arthur Asc
18°52' Sag - Adams 2 Pluto
19°02' Vir - Hayes Sun
19°25' Sag - Buchanan Moon
19°34' Vir - Arthur Sun
19°46' Sag - L Johnson Uranus
19°47' Gem - Bush 2 Sun
19°49' Pis - Madison Venus
19°50' Gem - Carter Pluto
19°51' Gem - Coolidge Sun
20°02' Pis - Buchanan Saturn
20°05' Vir - Harding Venus
20°07' Pis - Harrison 2 Pluto
20°10' Sag - Jackson Pluto
||20°33' Sag - Madison Mars
||20°37' Gem - Harrison 2 Venus
||20°52' Vir - Truman Asc
||20°53' Sag - Eisenhower Mars
||20°55' Vir - Pierce Saturn
||21°04' Gem - Arthur MC
||21°30' Vir - Garfield Venus
21°31' Gem - USA Sun
21°44' Pis - Presidency Mars
21°55' Vir - USA Asc
||22°08' Vir - Taylor Neptune
|||22°29' Pis - Cleveland Pluto
||22°40' Gem - Truman MC
||22°43' Vir - Bush 2 Moon
||22°47' Vir - Wilson Asc
||22°52' Gem - L Johnson Neptune
23°11' Vir - USA Saturn
||23°28' Vir - Trump Jupiter
||23°33' Vir - Fillmore MC
||23°46' Gem - Bush 1 Venus
||23°53' Vir - Taft Mercury
24°00' Gem - USA MC
||24°05' Gem - T Roosevelt Moon
||24°09' Vir - Bush 2 Jupiter
|24°12' Gem - Taylor Uranus
|24°15' Vir - Bush 1 Moon
24°18' Gem - Presidency Moon
|24°37' Vir - Adams 1 Mars
|24°55' Gem - Wilson MC
25°04' Sag - Fillmore Sun
25°18' Sag - T Roosevelt Mars
25°24' Sag - Coolidge Saturn
25°27' Sag - Arthur Neptune
25°53' Sag - Nixon Sun
25°54' Gem - L Johnson Venus
25°59' Gem - Reagan Neptune
26°02' Sag - Wilson Mercury
26°05' Sag - Washington Moon
26°13' Pis - Grant Pis
26°24' Vir - Kennedy Asc
26°41' Vir - Washington Pluto
26°45' Vir - Pierce Venus
26°51' Sag - McKinley Saturn
27°10' Sag - Adams 2 Moon
27°13' Vir - Pierce Uranus
27°28' Gem - Adams 2 Sun
27°32' Pis - McKinley Pluto
27°40' Gem - Ford Sun
27°52' Sag - Polk SAsc
28°08' Sag - Reagan Mercury
28°23' Vir - Eisenhower Sun
28°48' Sag - Taylor Saturn
29°12' Pis - Adams 1 Moon
29°14' - Clinton Jupiter
29°37' Vir - Presidency Neptune
27°41' Vir - Jackson MC
29°50' Gem - Trump Saturn

Rim positions

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:22 pm
by Jim Eshelman
|0°11' Can - Kennedy MC
|0°13' Ari - Bush 2 MC
|0°22' Cap - Taft MC
|0°22' Cap - WH Harrison Pluto
|0°23' Cap - Garfield Neptune
|0°46' - WH Harrison Venus
|0°54' Cap - Ford MC
|0°59' Can - Coolidge Mercury
1°07' Can - Presidency Jupiter
|1°08' Cap - Obama Saturn
|1°12' Can - Biden Jupiter
|1°15' Can - Nixon Neptune
|1°32' Ari - Buchanan Mars
||1°46' Can - Trump Venus
||2°01' Can - Ford Neptune
||2°09' Lib - Bush 1 Saturn
||2°25' Lib - Carter Asc
||2°28' Lib - McKinley Asc
||2°31' Can - Bush 2 Saturn
||2°36' Ari - Jefferson Sun
||2°38' Can - WH Harrison Mars
|2°40' Can - USA Mercury
||2°43' Lib - Tyler Neptune
3°00' Ari - Presidency Mercury
||3°00' Can - Taft Saturn
||3°01' Cap - Reagan Uranus
||3°08' Cap - Grant MC
||3°12' Ari - Coolidge Neptune
||3°25' Lib - Lincoln Mars
||3°31' Lib - Eisenhower Uranus
||3°34' Can - Kennedy Saturn
|3°50' Can - Grant Moon
4°16' Lib - Buchanan Neptune
4°47' Can - Carter MC
4°49' Cap - B Harrison Neptune
4°55' Cap - Lincoln Moon
|4°57' - Truman Jupiter
|5°03' Lib - Adams 1 Pluto
|5°47' Cap - Jefferson Uranus
|5°49' Can - Polk Moon
|5°55' Can - Madison Neptune
5°56' Cap - USA Pluto
6°07' Cap - WH Harrison MC
|6°39' Cap - Obama Jupiter
|6°53' Cap - WH Harrison Mercury
7°02' Can - Hoover Mercury
7°03' Can - McKinley MC
7°03' Ari - Biden Moon
7°20' Ari - Reagan Saturn
7°22' Can - Coolidge Uranus
7°41' Cap - Taylor Asc
7°49' Ari - Hoover Neptune
8°01' Cap - Wilson Moon
8°08' Can - Obama Mercury
8°09' Can - Clinton Saturn
8°10' Cap - Polk Jupiter
|8°14' Lib - Carter Saturn
|8°25' Ari - Grant Saturn
|9°05' Can - Kennedy Neptune
|9°10' Cap - Nixon Uranus
9°12' Can - Presidency Uranus
|9°34' Cap - Eisenhower Jupiter
||10°07' Cap - Arthur Uranus
||10°10' Lib - T Roosevelt Mercury
|10°27' Ari - Harding Moon
10°37' Lib - Eisenhower Moon (DD)
10°43' Lib - B Harrison Moon (DD)
10°46' Ari - Presidency Venus
|11°00' Ari - Wilson Pluto
|11°10' Lib - Harding Saturn
|11°30' Ari - Adams 2 Uranus
|11°30' Ari - Buchanan Sun
|11°33' Lib - T Roosevelt Sun
|11°39' Can - Coolidge Jupiter
11°57' Cap - Washington MC
12°23' Ari - Taylor Moon
12°38' Cap - Ford Uranus
12°39' Lib - Hayes Mercury
12°54' Cap - Hoover MC
12°58' Cap - F Roosevelt Venus
12°59' Ari - F Roosevelt Saturn
13°07' Can - Bush 2 Asc
13°10' Ari - B Harrison Jupiter
13°17' Can - Biden Pluto
13°21' Cap - McKinley Jupiter
13°36' Ari - Taft Pluto
13°37' Can - Clinton Mercury
13°42' Can - Tyler Uranus
13°48' Cap - McKinley Moon
13°52' Ari - T Roosevelt Pluto
14°06' Can - Hoover Mars
14°09' Can - Hoover Moon
14°20' Ari - Grant Sun
14°23' Lib - Polk Neptune
14°24' Lib - Obama Neptune
14°50' Cap - Van Buren Pluto
14°51' Lib - Arthur Mercury
14°55' Ari - Madison Jupiter
15°00' Cap - Cleveland Neptune
15°02' Can - Cleveland Mars
15°18' Lib - Garfield Mars
15°23' Lib - Adams 1 Sun
15°34' Cap - Washington Mercury
15°50' Can - Bush 2 Mercury
16°02' Can - Cleveland Jupiter
16°03' Can - Trump Pluto
16°10' Lib - Van Buren Mars
16°16' Can - Adams 2 Mars
16°21' Ari - Hayes Saturn
16°24' Can - Fillmore Saturn
16°30' Ari - Monroe Sun
16°35' Can - Bush 2 Pluto
16°39' Lib - A Johnson Uranus
16°53' Ari - Taft Asc
17°10' Cap - McKinley Sun
17°25' Cap - Hoover Saturn
17°34' Lib - Harding Sun
17°36' Lib - Lincoln Uranus
17°45' Cap - Taylor Pluto
17°52' Can - Clinton Pluto
|18°02' Cap - F Roosevelt Sun
|18°15' Can - Adams 2 Mercury
|18°19' Can - Buchanan Uranus
|18°21' Can - Obama Sun
|18°22' Can - Hoover Uranus
|18°24' Lib - Polk Sun
|18°24' Lib - Polk MC
|18°33' Cap - Garfield Uranus
|18°39' Lib - Biden Mars
|18°54' Can - T Roosevelt Saturn
18°55' Ari - Presidency Sun
|19°18' Ari - Grant Jupiter
|19°38' Ari - Ford Asc
20°07' Lib - Carter Moon
20°12' Lib - Harding Mars
20°16' Lib - Reagan Jupiter
20°25' Ari - Harding Pluto
20°41' Ari - F Roosevelt Neptune
20°43' Ari - Grant Asc
20°52' Can - Tyler Mars
21°13' Can - Monroe Neptune
21°23' Ari - Reagan Moon (DD)
21°41' Cap - A Johnson Venus
21°51' Can - Taft Venus
22°18' Ari - Buchanan Mercury
22°36' Can - Monroe Mars
22°36' Lib - Taylor Mars
22°36' Can - Ford Mercury
22°46' Cap - Garfield Jupiter
22°55' Lib - Polk Venus
23°01' Ari - Taft Jupiter
23°07' Cap - Reagan Sun
23°10' Can - Arthur Saturn
23°40' Ari - WH Harrison Asc
23°44' Ari - Jefferson Venus
23°50' Ari - F Roosevelt Jupiter
23°51' Cap - Obama Asc
24°05' Can - Truman Mars
24°07' Lib - Cleveland Saturn
24°20' Cap - Wilson Mars
24°21' Cap - Wilson Venus
24°27' Can - Bush 1 Neptune
24°38' Lib - Jefferson Pluto
24°44' Can - Cleveland Moon
24°50' Lib - Fillmore Neptune
24°50' Ari - Kennedy Mars
25°04' Lib - Harding Mercury
25°17' Lib - Arthur Venus
25°20' Can - Hoover Sun
25°33' Ari - Truman Sun
25°49' Lib - Adams 1 Venus
25°50' Lib - McKinley Mars
26°02' Ari - Ford Mars
|26°19' Ari - Clinton Moon
|26°36' Cap - Nixon Moon
|27°00' Ari - Kennedy Mercury
|27°13' Ari - Garfield Moon
27°19' Cap - Presidency Pluto
|27°30' Ari - Coolidge Pluto
|27°30' Can - Bush 2 Venus
|27°34' Lib - Pierce Jupiter
|27°34' Ari - Truman Neptune
|27°37' Lib - Biden Mercury
|27°42' Can - Jefferson Mars
|27°54' Cap - B Harrison Uranus
|23°03' Can - Pierce Mars
|28°06' Can - Carter Neptune
28°14' Cap - Monroe Asc
|28°15' Cap - Tyler Pluto
28°28' Ari - WH Harrison Uranus
28°40' Ari - Wilson Uranus
29°11' Lib - Taylor MC
29°27' Ari - Kennedy Jupiter
29°39' Can - Carter Venus
29°40' Can - Taft Mars
29°42' Ari - Hoover Pluto
29°44' Cap - WH Harrison Sun
29°59' Can - Tyler Jupiter
29°59' Cap - Lincoln Asc

Re: U.S. Presidents' natal positions

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:38 am
by Jim Eshelman
This is now complete.

Re: U.S. Presidents' natal positions

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:47 am
by Jim Eshelman
One thing I saw repeatedly as I compiled this list is that, across the generations (and centuries), one president frequently had a planet within 0°01' of conjunction, opposite, or square another president's planet. This is an exciting opportunity for research for someone who understands the actions and motivations of U.S. presidents far, far better than I.

Do these contacts act like inheritances or rebellions? That is, does something from the earlier president "act on" or influence the later thoughts and actions of an eventual successor? Routinely these happen across party lines and philosophical perspectives; but most of the presidents were well-read and well educated, understood well the thoughts and actions of their predecessors, and always were acting in the wake (sometimes the long wake) of their predecessors and the history that came before them. Was there an effect? A passing of a certain awareness? A position to act against?

We surely can say that Kennedy (who had his Pluto 1' from square James Madison's Venus) modified the Monroe Doctrine with his position on Cuba. That's an easy one - as if Madison's approach to foreign relations (Venus) underwent a Pluto transit. But did Pres. Carter do anything similar for Pres. Madison, since they had the same 1' interchange/transit? Obama's horizon 1' from FDR's Jupiter may be seen as Obama extending the giving new success to FDR's policies (more than anyone else except LBJ).

Did Reagan's Uranus have some effect on Taft's Saturn (opposite 1')? Does Biden's Moon at 7°03' Aries mean he is somehow tying into (say) economic policies of Hoover (Mercury 7°03' Cancer) and McKinley (MC 7°03'); and are those two linked to each other on the same theme? Did James Buchanan's Sun - his very identity, or that of his presidency itself - somehow stir or activate residuals of something Uranian in the presidency of John Quincy Adams? If Trump is reelected, is his having two non-consecutive terms somehow disrupting or springing off of Grover Cleveland's unique status because Trump's Pluto aspects Cleveland's Jupiter within 1' (or does it affect or tie to other Jupiter themes from Cleveland's terms)? Is there any conceivable link between Gerald Ford's Mercury actions as president to James Monroe and Zachary Taylor's Mars sides (warring behavior), and, if so, was Ford conscious of drawing some sort of inspiration from or reaction against those two?

Some of the men knew each other and had professional interactions separate from the effect I'm mentioning. For example, we find 1' contacts between Truman and Eisenhower, LBJ and Nixon, and Obama and Biden. That's a different matter.

This also touches on a much deeper astrological philosophical question: Does the birth chart outlive the body. I have argued that it does not. That would not necessarily mean the above effect can't exist because there could be other charts - charts of ideas and actions - that transition the contact from one person's chart to that of his successor. It's another (perhaps even more important) reason for someone who really knows the history of the presidency to investigate this question.

A further possibility is that concurrent positions are touching positions of some other chart, e.g., a midpoint in the U.S. chart or an alternative U.S. chart.

Just to show the effect, I will list below every instance of two different presidents having natal positions within 0°01' of each other.

0°08' Aqu - Kennedy Uranus
0°09' Tau - Hayes Mars

1°57' Tau - Washington Asc
1°58' Sco - Madison Moon

3°36' Aqu - Polk Pluto
3°37' Sco - Biden Sun

3°52' Sco - Garfield Sun
3°53' - Pierce Neptune

4°37' Sco - Biden Venus
4°38' Leo - B Harrison Sun

6°25' Tau - Taft Uranus
6°25' Tau - Hoover Asc

9°20' Sco - Pierce Sun
9°21' Leo - B Harrison Mercury

14°36' Sco - Lincoln Neptune
14°37' Sco - Van Buren Venus

15°22' Leo - Polk Uranus
15°22' Sco - Lincoln MC

15°26' Aqu - Pierce Pluto
15°27' Sco - Madison Pluto

19°40' Tau - Ford Saturn
19°41' Aqu - Cleveland Venus

22°14' Sco - Madison Saturn
22°15' Tau - Jackson Saturn

23°53' Leo - Nixon Asc
23°54' Tau - Trump Uranus

25°10' Aqu - Wilson Neptune
25°10' Tau - Bush 2 Uranus

27°33' Sco - Monroe Jupiter
27°34' Sco - Harding MC

5°08' Gem - Adams 1 Neptune
5°08' Gem - Nixon Pluto

7°35' Gem - Obama Venus
7°35' Vir - Biden Neptune

8°09' Pis - McKinley Uranus
8°09' Sag - Nixon Jupiter

9°40' Pis - Monroe Venus
9°41' Gem - Kennedy Pluto

11°31' Vir - Clinton Asc
11°32' Pis - Jackson Mercury

12°52' Vir - Clinton Neptune
12°53' Sag - Grant Neptune

15°03' Sag - Wilson Sun
15°04' Pis - Arthur Pluto

17°08' Pis - Tyler Sun
17°08' Vir - Clinton Venus

19°46' Sag - L Johnson Uranus
19°47' Gem - Bush 2 Sun

19°49' Pis - Madison Venus
19°50' Gem - Carter Pluto

20°52' Vir - Truman Asc
20°53' Sag - Eisenhower Mars

25°53' Sag - Nixon Sun
25°54' Gem - L Johnson Venus

0°22' Cap - Taft MC
0°22' Cap - Harrison 1 Pluto
0°23' Cap - Garfield Neptune

3°00' Can - Taft Saturn
3°01' Cap - Reagan Uranus

7°02' Can - Hoover Mercury
7°03' Can - McKinley MC
7°03' Ari - Biden Moon

8°08' Can - Obama Mercury
8°09' Can - Clinton Saturn
8°10' Cap - Polk Jupiter

11°30' Ari - Adams 2 Uranus
11°30' Ari - Buchanan Sun

12°38' Cap - Ford Uranus
12°39' Lib - Hayes Mercury

13°36' Ari - Taft Pluto
13°37' Can - Clinton Mercury

14°23' Lib - Polk Neptune
14°24' Lib - Obama Neptune

14°50' Cap - Van Buren Pluto
14°51' Lib - Arthur Mercury

16°02' Can - Cleveland Jupiter
16°03' Can - Trump Pluto

18°21' Can - Obama Sun
18°22' Can - Hoover Uranus

22°36' Can - Monroe Mars
22°36' Lib - Taylor Mars
22°36' Can - Ford Mercury

23°50' Asc - F Roosevelt Jupiter
23°51' Cap - Obama Asc

24°50' Lib - Fillmore Neptune
24°50' Ari - Kennedy Mars

25°49' Lib - Adams 1 Venus
25°50' Lib - McKinley Mars

27°30' Ari - Coolidge Pluto
27°30' Can - Bush 2 Venus

27°34' Lib - Pierce Jupiter
27°34' Ari - Truman Neptune

29°39' Can - Carter Venus
29°40' Can - Taft Mars

29°59' Can - Tyler Jupiter
29°59' Cap - Lincoln Asc