Pope Francis
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:51 pm
We now have an official copy of the birth certificate showing the birth as December 17, 1936, 9:00 PM ADT, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Here is the chart: [REMOVED]
(Side remarks: Add him to your list [if yo uare keeping a list] of people with Jupiter-Eris aspects [a square to Eris at 8°58' Pisces] and Mars-Sedna aspects [Sedna 24°29' Pisces].)
Fagan often remarked that the horoscopes of popes and great monarchs characteristically showed planets in the constellations of their dignities. In the present case, we have mixed indications. Jupiter and Saturn are goith in their home constellations. Against that, the Moon and Mercury are in their detriment. We can add that the Sun in Sagittarius is in a constellation of aristocracy and spiritual-religious authority.
Broadly, the luminary signs suggest a fairly institutional, conservative, traditional person. I suppose to have risen high in the ranks of the Catholic church, these traits must certainly be present, and he has tended historically to be regarded as a conservative. But we are also being exposed to elements of considerable liberalism in certain areas. He is emerging as a man of deep humility show shuns many airs and is devoted to the truly needy. I expected a more powerful Venus in the chart because of the form his deep compassion (reflected in his choice of papal name), and I don't find as much as I expected: Venus is middleground, and the conjunction to the Moon is of modest orb. But that conjunct IS present, and we also have a foreground Jupiter.
Most interesting, though, is the present of Uranus and Pluto on his angles; and this, at a time when Uranus and Pluto are square in space, forming the dominant paradigm of the world right now.
So let's break it down...
Sun in Sagittarius, Moon in Capricorn, Mars in Virgo. He has the same Sun-Moon pairing as Joseph Smith.
His angularities are as follows (all mundo):
Pluto 2°59' from the EP (in RA)
Mercury 3°15'above the Descendant
Jupiter 5°44' below the Descendant
Uranus 8°22' east of the MC
(The Uranus-Pluto square in RA is within 3°, being the main aspect between foreground planets.)
Aspects are few. The most important ones are the Class 2 Moon-Venus conjunction, the Class 1 Venus-Uranus square, and perhaps the Class 1 Jupiter-Uranus trine. A Sun-Moon semisquare adds more charisma and power-of-presence than might be expected from the rest of the chart.
What I was anticipating as a strong Venus presence seems to be reflected in a nearly absent Mars. Mars is middleground and, other than the 33' Mars-Neptune semi-sextile (which gains more importance in the absence of any other Mars aspects), there is no other connection. Additionally, though Saturn and Neptune are in opposition, the aspect is background. In the face of modest emphasis on the benefics in his horoscope - Venus, Jupiter, and Uranus - this virtual absence of the malefics takes on a special significance.
This is a very good example, therefore, of how things like aspect orbs are relative and sort of "sliding scale." It's not so much a matter of knowing exact cut-off points as of weighing what is stronger against what is weaker. In simple terms, the benefics are modestly strong in this chart, and tend to carry the weight of it (in addition to the mold-breaking Pluto), whereas the malefics are essentially absent. That makes the modestly strong benefics starkly stand out and take the lead.
Relocating his chart to the Vatican (41N54, 12E27) rotates the angles a bit to keep his Mercury comparably emphasized. The MC is 14°17' Gemini, with 13°06' Virgo rising. Of greater interest, though, is that the 24°34' Virgo local Antivertex is about a degree from his 25°39' Virgo Mars. (To put it differently, Mars' azimuth is only 1°50' from due east, so it is less than 2° from being exactly on the Prime Vertical.) I interpret this as involuntary, almost unconscious, coming forth as a Mars expression. Involuntary leadership, for example - being more martial than he realizes he is being. That sort of thing.
For comparison. other people who natally have Mars within 3° of the Antivertex at birth include King Louis XIV, King Edward VI; Jane Fonda, Robert Altman, Marlon Brando, Steve Martin, Tracey Ullman, Stephen Sondheim, Stephen Foster;
George Moscone; and Timothy McVeigh.
Here is the chart: [REMOVED]
(Side remarks: Add him to your list [if yo uare keeping a list] of people with Jupiter-Eris aspects [a square to Eris at 8°58' Pisces] and Mars-Sedna aspects [Sedna 24°29' Pisces].)
Fagan often remarked that the horoscopes of popes and great monarchs characteristically showed planets in the constellations of their dignities. In the present case, we have mixed indications. Jupiter and Saturn are goith in their home constellations. Against that, the Moon and Mercury are in their detriment. We can add that the Sun in Sagittarius is in a constellation of aristocracy and spiritual-religious authority.
Broadly, the luminary signs suggest a fairly institutional, conservative, traditional person. I suppose to have risen high in the ranks of the Catholic church, these traits must certainly be present, and he has tended historically to be regarded as a conservative. But we are also being exposed to elements of considerable liberalism in certain areas. He is emerging as a man of deep humility show shuns many airs and is devoted to the truly needy. I expected a more powerful Venus in the chart because of the form his deep compassion (reflected in his choice of papal name), and I don't find as much as I expected: Venus is middleground, and the conjunction to the Moon is of modest orb. But that conjunct IS present, and we also have a foreground Jupiter.
Most interesting, though, is the present of Uranus and Pluto on his angles; and this, at a time when Uranus and Pluto are square in space, forming the dominant paradigm of the world right now.
So let's break it down...
Sun in Sagittarius, Moon in Capricorn, Mars in Virgo. He has the same Sun-Moon pairing as Joseph Smith.
His angularities are as follows (all mundo):
Pluto 2°59' from the EP (in RA)
Mercury 3°15'above the Descendant
Jupiter 5°44' below the Descendant
Uranus 8°22' east of the MC
(The Uranus-Pluto square in RA is within 3°, being the main aspect between foreground planets.)
Aspects are few. The most important ones are the Class 2 Moon-Venus conjunction, the Class 1 Venus-Uranus square, and perhaps the Class 1 Jupiter-Uranus trine. A Sun-Moon semisquare adds more charisma and power-of-presence than might be expected from the rest of the chart.
What I was anticipating as a strong Venus presence seems to be reflected in a nearly absent Mars. Mars is middleground and, other than the 33' Mars-Neptune semi-sextile (which gains more importance in the absence of any other Mars aspects), there is no other connection. Additionally, though Saturn and Neptune are in opposition, the aspect is background. In the face of modest emphasis on the benefics in his horoscope - Venus, Jupiter, and Uranus - this virtual absence of the malefics takes on a special significance.
This is a very good example, therefore, of how things like aspect orbs are relative and sort of "sliding scale." It's not so much a matter of knowing exact cut-off points as of weighing what is stronger against what is weaker. In simple terms, the benefics are modestly strong in this chart, and tend to carry the weight of it (in addition to the mold-breaking Pluto), whereas the malefics are essentially absent. That makes the modestly strong benefics starkly stand out and take the lead.
Relocating his chart to the Vatican (41N54, 12E27) rotates the angles a bit to keep his Mercury comparably emphasized. The MC is 14°17' Gemini, with 13°06' Virgo rising. Of greater interest, though, is that the 24°34' Virgo local Antivertex is about a degree from his 25°39' Virgo Mars. (To put it differently, Mars' azimuth is only 1°50' from due east, so it is less than 2° from being exactly on the Prime Vertical.) I interpret this as involuntary, almost unconscious, coming forth as a Mars expression. Involuntary leadership, for example - being more martial than he realizes he is being. That sort of thing.
For comparison. other people who natally have Mars within 3° of the Antivertex at birth include King Louis XIV, King Edward VI; Jane Fonda, Robert Altman, Marlon Brando, Steve Martin, Tracey Ullman, Stephen Sondheim, Stephen Foster;
George Moscone; and Timothy McVeigh.
