Lee Harvey Oswald

[Jim Eshelman]

Dec 08, 2015


Lee Harvey Oswald was born October 18, 1939, 9:55 PM CST, New Orleans, LA. I personally spent a lot of effort to get his birth time, including writing to his mother when I was still in high school. (This led to other stories that I may or may not tell one day.) Eventually, my friend and colleague, T. Patrick Davis, was able to get the data from Oswald's mother. It is rated "A" quality data.

The most significant event in his life occurred November 22, 1963, 12:30 PM, in Dallas, TX.

TRANSITS TO NATAL
Transits to his natal chart are as follows:
t. Pluto -135- r. Saturn +0°52'
t. Saturn -45- r. Jupiter +0°55'
t. Jupiter -90- r. Asc +0°36'
t. Sun -45- r. Moon +0°32'
t. Venus -45- r. Venus -0°11'
t. Moon -0- r. Mars -0°32'
t. Mars -180- L EP +0°33'

That's a lot of transits! Overall, they show a hard, disruptive effect on his life, a lone-wolf not able to work effectively with others, and yet some significant success, payoff, or advantage. He gets significant attention. Finally, with transiting Mars on his local Westpoint, in the hour of the event Moon exactly conjoins his natal Mars. Something definitely happened to this man on that day!

TRANSITS TO SSR
t. Neptune -0- s. IC -0°28'
t. Saturn -90- s. MC +0°55'

What a horrible pair of transits! It actually looks as if Oswald is the one suffering most. I am sure that most of the remaining mysteries of the Kennedy assassination lie in these two transits to Oswald's SSR. On another occasion (or another of you, comment on this thread) we may dig into the minutia of meaning of these transits.

SECONDARY PROGRESSIONS
p. Asc sq. r. Saturn -0°02'
p. Mercury -60- r. Mars 0°00'
p. Mercury -135- p. Saturn +0°16'
p. Mars -150- p. Neptune +0°27'
p. Mars -120- r. Sun +0°30'
p. Mars -60- p. Saturn -0°49'

These are severe progressions, dominated by Mars and Saturn, including the Mercury-Mars aspect which I have seen numerous times for killings. (Compare it to the war-state shown by Mercury and Mars in mundane astrology: at least in part, it has to do with execution.) On the other hand, without question Oswald was arrested by the police that day and murdered almost immediately after, so it is not possible do confirm from these progressions his complicity in the murder of President Kennedy. We can only tell that it was a severe, probably violent and hurtful time.

SIDEREAL SOLAR RETURN
This is essentially what we saw under the SSR transits, but more intense. A Moon-Neptune conjunction (0°06') squares Saturn (< 2°), all on the angles, on natal Mercury. Natal Mars is less than half a degree from Westpoint, squared by the Moon-Neptune (3°). Again, the severities are primarily on Oswald, though he IS shown being aggressive, striking out. It is a morbid, depression return chart reeking of betrayal and tragedy. Though this is not ever seriously discussed in analyses of the assassination, this chart is consistent with broken mental health as well.

SIDEREAL LUNAR RETURN
Less than four days earlier, Oswald had his final SLR. It screams nearly all the factors major factors marking the time of the killing. A 0°10' Venus-Mars conjunction is on Eastpoint. Uranus and Pluto are near the MC, with Mercury closely rising. (Mercury is 1°09' below Asc, Pluto 2°12' east of MC, Uranus 7° west of MC, and Mercury-Pluto form a 1°03' mundane square.) There are more complexities in this chart than a simple event can absorb: He is caught in a swarm of events marked by tremendous passion, and having to "put up the goods and face the music." This is the one chart that makes me think seriously he was somebody's agent, and that there are blocks of the story we don't yet know. Interestingly, of all the aspects of that general time, Mars-Pluto is not one that features in this SLR.

SNQ
SNQ MC conjoins progressed Uranus -0°49', and opposes progressed Sun +0°14'. This progressed Sun-Uranus aspect was not yet quite partile, but it became effectively so as they straddled the quotidian meridian. It is an aspect of thrill, surprise, novelty - quite the opposite of the brooding aspects seen above.

SNQ
Transiting Mars squares SQ Ascendant +0°46'. In some ways this is strange - we should resist taking an easy answer, because normally this placement would mean that violence and aggressive were directed toward him, not experienced from him. SQ Moon has advanced wo within 0°35' of SSR Saturn, and was only 0°04' from transiting Neptune. This is one of the most malevolent personal event charts I have ever seen.

[Jim Eshelman]

Bingo with his SSR.

Yes, but what, exactly, does it mean? It's clear that it's bad; but what is the exact path of interpretation, and does it confirm conventional understanding of what happened that day, or point us in a different direction?

I think this natal and event can be important in understanding subtleties of some important fundamentals of event interpretation, so I thought I'd stir things with it.

[Jim Eshelman]

To follow up on some topics that Steve has been exploring more intensely lately...

In moving to Dallas, Oswald had the following local potential parans in his natal chart:
Moon-Saturn sq. (43', Asc-IC)
Uranus-Pluto sq. (43', Asc-IC)

At the time of the shooting, the following potential parans existed between transiting planets:
Mercury-Pluto sq. (19', IC-Asc)
Sun-Uranus sq. (29', Asc-MC)
Moon-Sun sq. (31', Asc-MC) (33', MC-Dsc)
Venus-Mars conj. (51', Dsc)

Ignoring, for the moment, the effects of precession (22' accumulated, and calculating purely Tropically, here are paran transits to Oswald's natal at the time of the shooting:

t. Moon conj. r. Mars 07' (17', 31')
t. Sun sq. r. Mars 14' (52')
t. Saturn sq. r. Mercury 07' (10')

I'm impressed by the aspects within his relocated natal. I'm somewhat impressed with the aspects within the event chart (only "somewhat" because, while their interpretations fit the event, they aren't entirely typical aspects for such events). I'm not overly impressed with the paran transits to the natal, however, considering that the most outstanding - Moon conjunct natal Mars - also existed within tight orb by simple longitude transits. That is, the paran transits were intrinsically right, but didn't add much or anything that we didn't already have. (I'm intrigued by that Saturn to Mercury, though.)

To double-check that last one: For Dallas, Oswald's Mercury crossed IC at 17°38' Libra. Saturn, at the time of the event, set when Descendant was 22°43' Capricorn. Putting this longitude on Descendant gives an IC of 17°08' Libra, or 0°30' from where Oswald's Mercury anticulminated. That would be the actual orb of this paran transit.

[Jim Eshelman]

Indeed, that SSR certainly stirs the astrological mind. It can be interpretive different ways pertaining to the event(s) associated with this SSR. If one is to believe a conspiracy he was deceived, if one to believe he acted along he became deranged. Either way the symbolism fits the event(s). With all the Saturn-Neptune symbolism we can clearly see where he was “removed” from the scene of the crime with Bradley’s words:

Saturn-Neptune: Among its paramount keywords is “removal”…

Not only was he 'removed,' he 'removed' our President.

Your take?

[Jim Eshelman]

Before I finish the TP’s tread I will post some interesting material pertaining to TP’s of Sun & Mars with the SSR. Jim, could you post his TP’s to his SSR?

I am very interested in any possible Mars TP's to his SSR.

[Jim Eshelman]

With paran transits to the SSR, there is no issue of precession, since it will be less than 0°01' for the life of the SSR. Here are paran transits to Oswald's SSR at the time of the assassination (excluding slow planets to themselves).

t. Neptune conj. s. Moon 23' [partile conj. in SSR]
t. Mercury sq. s. Pluto 31'
t. Moon sq. s. Venus 60' applying [just entering orb]
t. Sun sq. s. Uranus 40'

Basically nothing, in that the Neptune-Moon is simply the partile aspect from the SSR not yet out of orb, and the Mercury-Pluto and Sun-Uranus are reflections of these aspects in space at the time, universal to almost everyone in the world at Dallas' latitude. This leaves the Moon-Venus, which is inappropriate.

No Mars aspects are present.

[Jim Eshelman]

Not only was he 'removed,' he 'removed' our President.

Your take?

My take is... it's complex and not immediately evident to me what the path of connections is.

For Oswald, these aretransiting Saturn and Neptune. He's the recipient, not the originator. This would be utterly appropriate in Kennedy's charts, but in exactly which way do they develop for in him? In what way is he the recipient and (so to speak) victim of these.

For example: These planets (as transits) could stir morbid psychological states. Other than occasional reference to strained psychological states for Oswald, I don't recall any hints (that anyone ever took seriously) that he was psychotic or even operating out of a seriously damaged psychological state.

Or, we could go the path of stirring conspiracy. These aspects reek of conspiracy all by themselves. From Oswald's perspective, they could mean that he was betrayed by co-conspirators, or even that he was set up as a patsy or fall-guy. I'm not trying to stir conspiracy theories on this (I have my own idea about what the seeming cover-up is), but I'm pointing out that this sort of thing would be an easy fulfillment of Oswald's chart. we wouldn't have to stretch anything or scratch our heads if it were clear he was setup and betrayed in a more complex conspiracy: partile Moon-Neptune conjunction on IC square foreground Saturn.

But if we do not go down that road, and this is not a case of profound psychiatric disturbance, then... what to these placements (as transiting, not natal, placements) mean?

More ideas, everyone?

[Jim Eshelman]

President Kennedy's natal chart has the following parans for Dallas:

Mars-Neptune sq. 15'
Sun-Uranus sq. 20'
Moon-Venus sq. 23'
Mercury-Jupiter conj. 39'
Mars-Uranus sq. 47'

Not accounting for precession, he had the following paran transits at the time he was shot:

t. Uranus sq. r. Sun 00' Asc-MC
t. Pluto sq. r. Sun 02' MC-Asc
t. Pluto sq. r. Pluto 05' Dsc-IC, 05' IC-Asc
t. Mercury op. r. Sun 18' Dsc-Asc
t. Neptune sq. r. Saturn 28' MC-Dsc
t. Uranus conj. r. Moon 35' Dsc
t. Neptune op. r. Mars 36' Dsc-Asc
t. Neptune sq. r. Neptune 51' Dsc-IC

These are pretty amazing. It's hard to assess their priority since they are all calculated Tropically, and there is 0°38' of accrued precession; but the list is interesting nonetheless, especially with the number of outer planets transiting their own natal places. Natal Saturn set when the Descendant was 3°57' Cancer, and transiting Neptune culminated when the local Ascendant was 3°38' Capricorn, so Neptune to Saturn was only 0°19' wide.

For example, how close is that Uranus to Sun really? Natal Sun is on MC 14°15' Taurus. Transiting Uranus rose at 15°26' Leo when the MC was 13°37' MC, so Sun was really 0°38' off the angle (the exact amount of precession). Pluto to Sun is a similar distance.

[Jim Eshelman]

We have no birth time for Jack Ruby, who was born April 25, 1911, in Chicago, and died January 4, 1967 in Dallas. He shot Oswald November 24, 1963, at 11:21 AM.

He was a Sagittarius with (most likely) an Aquarius Moon - possibly Capricorn if born very early. Partile Sun-Mercury conjunction. When he shot Oswald, his transits were:
t. Pluto -135- r. Uranus
t. Saturn -45- r. Sun-Mercury
t. Jupiter -45- r. Mars
Moon in mid-Aquarius, so he just had a Lunar Return a few hours earlier.

He had progressed Mercury square natal and progressed Saturn. No other progressions as far as we can tell.