I've strung several mass suicide events together below, in addition to
Jonestown
Kanungu Church mass suicide
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Several Mass Suicides
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Heaven's Gate mass suicide
39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult committed suicide together March 1997, in Rancho Santa Fe, CA near San Diego. They believed they were shedding a mortal coil so that, at a higher level of being, they could board a spaceship trailing Comet Hale-Bopp which had just passed by Earth.
The bodies were found March 26, already starting to decompose, The group leader had taped a message about the suicides March 19-20 (Hale-Bopp's closest pass was at the vernal equinox, March 20). They had taken drugs and the wrapped plastic bags over their heads to bring about death. The deaths are believed to have occurred in three batches over three consecutive days (March 24-26).
For sake of study, I'll use 0:00 March 25 (bridging the first few days, and probably within a few hours of the first wave of suicides). From a mundane astrology perspective, one might argue that the morning of March 26 is the most important time, since that's when the media began moving the information into mass mind.
For the science fiction / space-flight themes of the cult, the strength of Uranus in both the Year and Month master charts is (as Spock would say) fascinating.
Year: Capsolar
Uranus sq. Asc (0°24')
Sun on MC (4°54')
Neptune on MC (9°01')
Moon widely op. Mars (3°23' in mundo)
Bridge: (None.)
Month: Caplunar
Uranus sq. MC (0°04')
Moon on Asc (1°55')
Neptune on Asc (8°24')
Week: Canlunar
(Suicides began, and mostly occurred, under this Canlunar.)
Mercury sq. Asc (0°05')
Moon sq. MC (1°47')
Week 2: Liblunar
(Suicides became known, a public event, under this Liblunar.)
Moon on Dsc (0°51')
Neptune sq. Asc (2°21')
Saturn on Asc (9°42')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian
p. MC conj. s. Saturn, op. s. Mars (both < 1°)
-- Mars-Saturn op. in Capsolar (1°00')
p. MC conj. t. Venus (0°10')
-- t. Venus conj. s. Saturn (0°26'), op. s. Mars (0°34')
Day: Cansolar Quotidian
p. MC op. t. Pluto (1°)
SUMMARY
Year: Uranus (Sun Neptune). Moon-Mars.
Bridge: (None.)
Month: Moon Uranus (Neptune).
Week: Moon Neptune (Saturn).
Day (CapQ): Venus Mars Saturn. Venus-Mars-Saturn.
Day (CanQ): Pluto.
The bodies were found March 26, already starting to decompose, The group leader had taped a message about the suicides March 19-20 (Hale-Bopp's closest pass was at the vernal equinox, March 20). They had taken drugs and the wrapped plastic bags over their heads to bring about death. The deaths are believed to have occurred in three batches over three consecutive days (March 24-26).
For sake of study, I'll use 0:00 March 25 (bridging the first few days, and probably within a few hours of the first wave of suicides). From a mundane astrology perspective, one might argue that the morning of March 26 is the most important time, since that's when the media began moving the information into mass mind.
For the science fiction / space-flight themes of the cult, the strength of Uranus in both the Year and Month master charts is (as Spock would say) fascinating.
Year: Capsolar
Uranus sq. Asc (0°24')
Sun on MC (4°54')
Neptune on MC (9°01')
Moon widely op. Mars (3°23' in mundo)
Bridge: (None.)
Month: Caplunar
Uranus sq. MC (0°04')
Moon on Asc (1°55')
Neptune on Asc (8°24')
Week: Canlunar
(Suicides began, and mostly occurred, under this Canlunar.)
Mercury sq. Asc (0°05')
Moon sq. MC (1°47')
Week 2: Liblunar
(Suicides became known, a public event, under this Liblunar.)
Moon on Dsc (0°51')
Neptune sq. Asc (2°21')
Saturn on Asc (9°42')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian
p. MC conj. s. Saturn, op. s. Mars (both < 1°)
-- Mars-Saturn op. in Capsolar (1°00')
p. MC conj. t. Venus (0°10')
-- t. Venus conj. s. Saturn (0°26'), op. s. Mars (0°34')
Day: Cansolar Quotidian
p. MC op. t. Pluto (1°)
SUMMARY
Year: Uranus (Sun Neptune). Moon-Mars.
Bridge: (None.)
Month: Moon Uranus (Neptune).
Week: Moon Neptune (Saturn).
Day (CapQ): Venus Mars Saturn. Venus-Mars-Saturn.
Day (CanQ): Pluto.
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Siege of Masada - Mass Suicide
Historians disagree on whether reports of the Siege of Masada (31N18'56" 35E21'13") are historically true. However, here is what is reported:
Romans breached the city's walls April 16, 73 CE. They found most of the buildings on fire and all the people dead. The legend is that they committed mass suicide the night before.
I will use April 15, 73, 9 PM for the working time of a possible mass suicide. The event is quite persuasive.
Year: Capsolar (Dormant.) Moon-Mars conj. (0°34'), Moon-Mercury sq. (0°48').
Year: Cansolar (Dormant.) Moon-Neptune sq. (0°24').
Bridge (None.)
Quarter: Arisolar
Moon-Mars sq. (0°25' in mundo)
Uranus sq. Asc (1°01')
Pluto sq. Asc (2°24')
-- Uranus-Pluto conj. (1°23')
Jupiter on Dsc (4°47')
Neptune on Asc (9°50')
Month: Caplunar
Neptune sq. MC (0°21'), on Dsc (2°05')
Sun on Dsc (1°37')
-- Sun-Neptune conj. (3°42')
-- Sun/Neptune on Dsc (0°14')
Jupiter on EP (1°37')
Mercury on Dsc (9°21')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian
p. MC sq. s. Saturn (0°36')
p. EP op. t. Saturn (0°46')
p. Asc sq. t. Venus (1°12')
Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits (Dormant.)
SUMMARY
Year (Capsolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Mercury-Mars.
Year (Cansolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Neptune.
Bridge: (Dormant.)
Quarter: Uranus Pluto (Jupiter-Neptune). Moon-Mars Uranus-Pluto.
Month: Sun Jupiter Neptune (Mercury). Sun-Neptune.
Day (CapQ): Venus Saturn.
Day (Cansolar): (Dormant.)
Romans breached the city's walls April 16, 73 CE. They found most of the buildings on fire and all the people dead. The legend is that they committed mass suicide the night before.
I will use April 15, 73, 9 PM for the working time of a possible mass suicide. The event is quite persuasive.
Year: Capsolar (Dormant.) Moon-Mars conj. (0°34'), Moon-Mercury sq. (0°48').
Year: Cansolar (Dormant.) Moon-Neptune sq. (0°24').
Bridge (None.)
Quarter: Arisolar
Moon-Mars sq. (0°25' in mundo)
Uranus sq. Asc (1°01')
Pluto sq. Asc (2°24')
-- Uranus-Pluto conj. (1°23')
Jupiter on Dsc (4°47')
Neptune on Asc (9°50')
Month: Caplunar
Neptune sq. MC (0°21'), on Dsc (2°05')
Sun on Dsc (1°37')
-- Sun-Neptune conj. (3°42')
-- Sun/Neptune on Dsc (0°14')
Jupiter on EP (1°37')
Mercury on Dsc (9°21')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian
p. MC sq. s. Saturn (0°36')
p. EP op. t. Saturn (0°46')
p. Asc sq. t. Venus (1°12')
Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits (Dormant.)
SUMMARY
Year (Capsolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Mercury-Mars.
Year (Cansolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Neptune.
Bridge: (Dormant.)
Quarter: Uranus Pluto (Jupiter-Neptune). Moon-Mars Uranus-Pluto.
Month: Sun Jupiter Neptune (Mercury). Sun-Neptune.
Day (CapQ): Venus Saturn.
Day (Cansolar): (Dormant.)
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Demmin, Germany mass suicides
About 1,000 residents of Demmin, Germany committed mass suicide May 1, 1945 (in the aftermath of Hitler's suicide, and as Germany fell in WW II) after the Red Army sacked the town. I have no time for this event, so noon would be a reasonable estimate.
Charts for this event are likely complicated by overlapping with the larger picture of what was happening in Germany at the time, but I'll look at it as an isolated event for Demmin.
The charts start off well (the Caplunar is exquisite), and then deteriorate in the end. This is a fine example of charts for the end of WW II, but that's not really the event focused on Demmim,
Year: Capsolar
Uranus on Asc (0°56')
Bridge (None.)
Quarter: Arisolar
Moon sq. MC (0°20')
Saturn on Asc (5°15')
Uranus on Asc (9°14')
Month: Caplunar
Pluto conj. Asc (1°16')
Neptune on IC (2°26')
-- Neptune-Pluto sq. (1°10' in mundo)
Saturn on EP (1°15')
-- Saturn-Neptune sq. (0°01')
Moon on Dsc (8°00')
Venus sq. Asc (2°26')
Week: Liblunar (Dormant.)
Week: Canlunar
Mercury on IC (0°59')
Venus on IC (2°41')
-- Mercury-Venus conj. (3°40' in mundo)
Uranus on Dsc (3°18')
-- Mercury-Uranus sq. (2°19' in mundo)
Moon-Venus sq. (0°39')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits (Dormant.)
Day: Cansolar Quotidian
p. MC conj. s. Sun (< 1°)
p. Asc op. t. Mercury-Venus (0°)
SUMMARY
Year: Uranus.
Bridge: (None.)
Quarter: Moon (Saturn Uranus).
Month: Saturn Neptune Pluto (Moon Venus). Saturn-Neptune Neptune-Pluto.
Week: (Dormant.)
Week (Canlunar): Mercury Venus (Uranus). Moon-Venus Mercury-Venus Mercury-Uranus.
Day (Capsolar): (Dormant.)
Day (CanQ): Sun Mercury Venus. Mercury-Venus.
Charts for this event are likely complicated by overlapping with the larger picture of what was happening in Germany at the time, but I'll look at it as an isolated event for Demmin.
The charts start off well (the Caplunar is exquisite), and then deteriorate in the end. This is a fine example of charts for the end of WW II, but that's not really the event focused on Demmim,
Year: Capsolar
Uranus on Asc (0°56')
Bridge (None.)
Quarter: Arisolar
Moon sq. MC (0°20')
Saturn on Asc (5°15')
Uranus on Asc (9°14')
Month: Caplunar
Pluto conj. Asc (1°16')
Neptune on IC (2°26')
-- Neptune-Pluto sq. (1°10' in mundo)
Saturn on EP (1°15')
-- Saturn-Neptune sq. (0°01')
Moon on Dsc (8°00')
Venus sq. Asc (2°26')
Week: Liblunar (Dormant.)
Week: Canlunar
Mercury on IC (0°59')
Venus on IC (2°41')
-- Mercury-Venus conj. (3°40' in mundo)
Uranus on Dsc (3°18')
-- Mercury-Uranus sq. (2°19' in mundo)
Moon-Venus sq. (0°39')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits (Dormant.)
Day: Cansolar Quotidian
p. MC conj. s. Sun (< 1°)
p. Asc op. t. Mercury-Venus (0°)
SUMMARY
Year: Uranus.
Bridge: (None.)
Quarter: Moon (Saturn Uranus).
Month: Saturn Neptune Pluto (Moon Venus). Saturn-Neptune Neptune-Pluto.
Week: (Dormant.)
Week (Canlunar): Mercury Venus (Uranus). Moon-Venus Mercury-Venus Mercury-Uranus.
Day (Capsolar): (Dormant.)
Day (CanQ): Sun Mercury Venus. Mercury-Venus.
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Collating Data on Mass Suicides
Here are the summaries of the mass suicide events I've collated so far.
JONESTOWN
Year: Mars (Uranus).
Bridge: Jupiter (Cap).
Half-year: Pluto (Jupiter). Moon-Neptune Jupiter-Pluto.
Quarter: Mercury Jupiter (Uranus). Moon-Mars Moon-Uranus Mercury-Jupiter.
Month: Saturn (Mercury Mars Neptune). Moon-Pluto Mercury-Mars, Saturn-Neptune.
Week: Mercury Saturn Neptune. Moon-Pluto Mercury-Saturn Saturn-Neptune.
Day (Capsolar): Mars Neptune Mars-Saturn (CapQ). Venus Jupiter Venus-Jupiter (transits).
Day (CanQ): Uranus x2.
MASADA
Year (Capsolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Mercury-Mars.
Year (Cansolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Neptune.
Bridge: (Dormant.)
Quarter: Uranus Pluto (Jupiter-Neptune). Moon-Mars Uranus-Pluto.
Month: Sun Jupiter Neptune (Mercury). Sun-Neptune.
Day (CapQ): Venus Saturn.
Day (Cansolar): (Dormant.)
DEMMIN, Germany
Year: Uranus.
Bridge: (None.)
Quarter: Moon (Saturn Uranus).
Month: Saturn Neptune Pluto (Moon Venus). Saturn-Neptune Neptune-Pluto.
Week: (Dormant.)
Week (Canlunar): Mercury Venus (Uranus). Moon-Venus Mercury-Venus Mercury-Uranus.
Day (Capsolar): (Dormant.)
Day (CanQ): Sun Mercury Venus. Mercury-Venus.
HEAVEN'S GATE
Year: Uranus (Sun Neptune). Moon-Mars.
Bridge: (None.)
Month: Moon Uranus (Neptune).
Week: Moon Neptune (Saturn).
Day (CapQ): Venus Mars Saturn. Venus-Mars-Saturn.
Day (CanQ): Pluto.
KANUNGA
Year: (Dormant.)
-- Quarter (Arisolar by flow-through): Moon, Jupiter (Sun). Moon-Jupiter.
Month: Venus, Uranus. Venus-Uranus.
-- Week: Jupiter, Neptune (Moon, Saturn). Moon-Mars.
Day (Capsolar): Mercury Moon-Saturn (CapQ). Sun (transits to Capsolar).
Day (CanQ): Jupiter, Neptune. Jupiter-Neptune.
JONESTOWN
Year: Mars (Uranus).
Bridge: Jupiter (Cap).
Half-year: Pluto (Jupiter). Moon-Neptune Jupiter-Pluto.
Quarter: Mercury Jupiter (Uranus). Moon-Mars Moon-Uranus Mercury-Jupiter.
Month: Saturn (Mercury Mars Neptune). Moon-Pluto Mercury-Mars, Saturn-Neptune.
Week: Mercury Saturn Neptune. Moon-Pluto Mercury-Saturn Saturn-Neptune.
Day (Capsolar): Mars Neptune Mars-Saturn (CapQ). Venus Jupiter Venus-Jupiter (transits).
Day (CanQ): Uranus x2.
MASADA
Year (Capsolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Mercury-Mars.
Year (Cansolar): (Dormant.) Moon-Neptune.
Bridge: (Dormant.)
Quarter: Uranus Pluto (Jupiter-Neptune). Moon-Mars Uranus-Pluto.
Month: Sun Jupiter Neptune (Mercury). Sun-Neptune.
Day (CapQ): Venus Saturn.
Day (Cansolar): (Dormant.)
DEMMIN, Germany
Year: Uranus.
Bridge: (None.)
Quarter: Moon (Saturn Uranus).
Month: Saturn Neptune Pluto (Moon Venus). Saturn-Neptune Neptune-Pluto.
Week: (Dormant.)
Week (Canlunar): Mercury Venus (Uranus). Moon-Venus Mercury-Venus Mercury-Uranus.
Day (Capsolar): (Dormant.)
Day (CanQ): Sun Mercury Venus. Mercury-Venus.
HEAVEN'S GATE
Year: Uranus (Sun Neptune). Moon-Mars.
Bridge: (None.)
Month: Moon Uranus (Neptune).
Week: Moon Neptune (Saturn).
Day (CapQ): Venus Mars Saturn. Venus-Mars-Saturn.
Day (CanQ): Pluto.
KANUNGA
Year: (Dormant.)
-- Quarter (Arisolar by flow-through): Moon, Jupiter (Sun). Moon-Jupiter.
Month: Venus, Uranus. Venus-Uranus.
-- Week: Jupiter, Neptune (Moon, Saturn). Moon-Mars.
Day (Capsolar): Mercury Moon-Saturn (CapQ). Sun (transits to Capsolar).
Day (CanQ): Jupiter, Neptune. Jupiter-Neptune.
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Collating Data on Mass Suicides
I'm not sure this is a compatible set of data, i.e., sufficiently similar in nature; but I'm going to work it up anyway, to see how the numbers fall. As a preparation for a full break down, I'm going to strip the above down a bit, to show the stuff I actually collate.
JONESTOWN
Year: Mars
Half-year: Pluto Moon-Neptune Jupiter-Pluto
Quarter: Mercury Jupiter Moon-Mars Moon-Uranus Mercury-Jupiter
Month: Saturn Moon-Pluto Mercury-Mars Saturn-Neptune
Week: Mercury Saturn Neptune Moon-Pluto Mercury-Saturn Saturn-Neptune
Day: Venus Mars Jupiter Neptune Uranus Uranus Venus-Jupiter Mars-Saturn
MASADA
Year: Moon-Mercury Moon-Mars Mercury-Mars Moon-Neptune
Quarter: Uranus Pluto Moon-Mars Uranus-Pluto
Month: Sun Jupiter Neptune Sun-Neptune
Day: Venus Saturn
DEMMIN, Germany
Year: Uranus.
Quarter: Moon
Month: Saturn Neptune Pluto Saturn-Neptune Neptune-Pluto
Week: Mercury Venus Moon-Venus Mercury-Venus Mercury-Uranus
Day: Sun Mercury Venus Mercury-Venus
HEAVEN'S GATE
Year: Uranus Moon-Mars
Month: Moon Uranus
Week: Moon Neptune
Day (CapQ): Venus Mars Saturn Pluto Venus-Mars Venus-Saturn Mars-Saturn
KANUNGA
Quarter: Moon Jupiter Moon-Jupiter
Month: Venus Uranus Venus-Uranus
Week: Jupiter Neptune Moon-Mars
Day: Mercury Sun Jupiter Neptune Moon-Saturn Jupiter-Neptune
JONESTOWN
Year: Mars
Half-year: Pluto Moon-Neptune Jupiter-Pluto
Quarter: Mercury Jupiter Moon-Mars Moon-Uranus Mercury-Jupiter
Month: Saturn Moon-Pluto Mercury-Mars Saturn-Neptune
Week: Mercury Saturn Neptune Moon-Pluto Mercury-Saturn Saturn-Neptune
Day: Venus Mars Jupiter Neptune Uranus Uranus Venus-Jupiter Mars-Saturn
MASADA
Year: Moon-Mercury Moon-Mars Mercury-Mars Moon-Neptune
Quarter: Uranus Pluto Moon-Mars Uranus-Pluto
Month: Sun Jupiter Neptune Sun-Neptune
Day: Venus Saturn
DEMMIN, Germany
Year: Uranus.
Quarter: Moon
Month: Saturn Neptune Pluto Saturn-Neptune Neptune-Pluto
Week: Mercury Venus Moon-Venus Mercury-Venus Mercury-Uranus
Day: Sun Mercury Venus Mercury-Venus
HEAVEN'S GATE
Year: Uranus Moon-Mars
Month: Moon Uranus
Week: Moon Neptune
Day (CapQ): Venus Mars Saturn Pluto Venus-Mars Venus-Saturn Mars-Saturn
KANUNGA
Quarter: Moon Jupiter Moon-Jupiter
Month: Venus Uranus Venus-Uranus
Week: Jupiter Neptune Moon-Mars
Day: Mercury Sun Jupiter Neptune Moon-Saturn Jupiter-Neptune
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Collating data: Mass suicides
Now for the actual collation.
COMBINED (Moon + Angularity)
9 Neptune
8 Mars Uranus
7 Venus Jupiter
6 Mercury Saturn Pluto
4 Moon
3 Sun
ANGULARITY
7 Uranus Neptune
6 Venus Jupiter
5 Mercury Saturn
4 Moon Pluto
3 Sun Mars
MOON ASPECTS
5 Mars
2 Neptune Pluto
1 Mercury Venus Jupiter Saturn Uranus
0 Sun Saturn
OITHER ASPECTS
3 Saturn-Neptune
2 Mars-Saturn Mercury-Venus Mercury-Mars
1 Sun-Neptune Mercury-Jupiter Mercury-Saturn Mercury-Uranus Venus-Mars Venus-Jupiter Venus-Saturn Venus-Uranus Jupiter-Neptune Jupiter-Pluto Uranus-Pluto Neptune-Pluto
COMBINED (Moon + Angularity)
9 Neptune
8 Mars Uranus
7 Venus Jupiter
6 Mercury Saturn Pluto
4 Moon
3 Sun
ANGULARITY
7 Uranus Neptune
6 Venus Jupiter
5 Mercury Saturn
4 Moon Pluto
3 Sun Mars
MOON ASPECTS
5 Mars
2 Neptune Pluto
1 Mercury Venus Jupiter Saturn Uranus
0 Sun Saturn
OITHER ASPECTS
3 Saturn-Neptune
2 Mars-Saturn Mercury-Venus Mercury-Mars
1 Sun-Neptune Mercury-Jupiter Mercury-Saturn Mercury-Uranus Venus-Mars Venus-Jupiter Venus-Saturn Venus-Uranus Jupiter-Neptune Jupiter-Pluto Uranus-Pluto Neptune-Pluto
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Re: Several Mass Suicides
Conclusion so far: These are kinda weird and kinda interesting.
Their biggest contrast to the mass shootings is that Venus and Jupiter are high here, and Mars and Saturn are low - the exact opposite. (But Moon-Mars aspects do pretty well.)
I'm still not convinced these are sufficient, or sufficiently congruent, events. I find them interesting, though.
Their biggest contrast to the mass shootings is that Venus and Jupiter are high here, and Mars and Saturn are low - the exact opposite. (But Moon-Mars aspects do pretty well.)
I'm still not convinced these are sufficient, or sufficiently congruent, events. I find them interesting, though.
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