Donald Trump

[Jim Eshelman]

You're quite right, Mike. In fact, to show how "boilerplate" it is, here is the current output from a project I'm working on to automatically generated natal chart interpretation element. It's not done yet - in fact, what follows doesn't have anything for the rising Mars - but it might be of interest.


Donald Trump - Male Chart
Jun 14 1946, 10:54 am, EDT +4:00
Jamaica New York, 40°N41'29'', 073°W48'22''
Geocentric Fagan-Allen Zodiac
Campanus Houses

MOON

MOON IN SCORPIO
Socially active party-people: good-natured, friendly, humor. Willing to be outlandish. Factually forthright; emotionally cautious (withholding); senses others’ motives. Sexual volcanoes: built pressure needs explosive release. Sexually pragmatic. Frequent relationship drama; combative. Easy to anger (it passes). Bold, adventurous, restless, "try anything." Gossip (sometimes vindictive). Beliefs likely unorthodox.

MOON IN THE 4TH HOUSE
Needs emotional security. Emotionally attached to home, parents (mother), and heritage. Family-spirit, domestic. Nurtures, but needs nurturing. Powerful emotions mobilized protectively. Strongly sensitive to psychic tone of the environment and its occupants.

MOON ASPECTS
OPPOSITION THE SUN Orb 1°43' Applying
Energetic, dynamic, terrific drive, forceful. A mental-emotional attitude biased toward success. “At home” with power. Intense desire in whatever they undertake. High vitality (unless the luminaries are afflicted). Sexual desires also particularly strong, passionate, though often narcissistic. Possible vanity, self-exaltation, and obstinacy.

OPPOSITION URANUS Orb 3°19' Separating
A specie of genius (intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, investigative) is bursting to express itself – not wholly comfortable accepting outside guidance, often wondering why others don’t recognize its nature. Inquisitive, original, futuristic, seeking novelty & needing variety (“will try anything twice”). Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside of convention; but subject to tensions and stiffness from emotional stress.

SUN

THE SUN IN TAURUS
Charming, good-hearted, tolerant, forthright. Loves peace, beauty, nature, comfort, simplicity. Devoted friend, keenly understands people. Willingly vulnerable, open; feels things powerfully. Erotic (sexually, sensually, philosophically). Deeply loving parents. Prolific in all areas of creativity.

SUN IN THE 10TH HOUSE
Awareness of authority within self and others (paternal bias). Achievement-oriented, responsible, managerial. Proud. Probable success in career.

VENUS

ASPECTS OF VENUS
CONJUNCTION SATURN Orb 1°55' Separating
Work, duty, devotion give especial pleasure. Also, various restrictions (even hardships) in love. Work (with an eye to service) is inherently gratifying; ordinary pleasures may be delayed or sacrificed for responsibilities. Many seem comfortable alone (unpartnered), though there is rarely any sexual restraint (often quite the opposite). Childhood hardship or deprivation often exists (physical or emotional) that shapes adult patterns; many move far from their birthplace to restart their lives. Sober, responsible. Willing to pragmatically sacrifice (even sell-out) whatever they need to, for something more important to them.

MARS

MARS IN LEO
No interpretation has yet been prepared for this.

ASPECTS OF MARS
CONJUNCTION THE ASCENDANT Orb 3°12' Separating
No interpretation has been written for this.

[FlorencedeZ.]

If there was ever a chart that validated the Sidereal Zodiac.. this is it!

Very true Mike.
Plus his Uranian temperament (Sun and Moon tied with Uranus) shows his recklessness IMO and his Sun trine Mars the bully.
Flo

[SteveS]

So true starage, Trump's very nasty 2018 SSR will reap what he has been sowing, IMO.

[Lance]

Regarding the January 26 prediction, I do think it significant that obstruction of justice trended really high that day in the Internet searches.

But another thing that’s interesting was that it was in January that the Stormy Daniels Stuff came in to play. But it was around January 12, so I don’t know how much weight to give it.

[DDonovanKinsolving]

Donald Bradley would occasionally venture into how astrological archetypes worked their way into language, so in this general category I noticed an odd coincidence. Trump's Mars and Ascendant are near Regulus, which are all in the Vedic asterism Magha. Trump's signature slogan "Make America Great Again" is abbreviated MAGA. Interesting, but is it random, or is there indeed some deep connection through astrology here (as I doubt any astrologer had a hand in it)?

I do not see any astrological connection to the proposed new slogan KAG, "Keep America Great" (and it sounds too dissonant).

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

It appears January 26th was around the time Mueller's group subpoenaed papers and files from Trump's private business. Perhaps the exact date the subpoenas were served? Don't know. But that would have given Trump a very very bad day.

[SteveS]

As, I have stated before, when it comes to actual known events/manifestations in politics--so much is hidden from us-- the public. Makes it somewhat confusing for us astrologers when we don't see malefic manifestations occur with blatant malefic charts.

[Avshalom Binyamin]

Also... I wonder...

Considering that the election day was a very bad day for Trump (based on both accounts and his chart)...

And if he is a Russian asset, blackmailed through kompromat, he doesn't have the dignified out of resigning or confessing or really doing anything but fighting a doomed fight against Mueller, and hope for a last-minute rescue of some kind.

Maybe we should be looking for a day of relief in his chart? A day when all the fighting comes to a close.

After all, isn't there a saying that suspects who are wrongfully arrested don't sleep well, while the guilty ones sleep like a baby?

[SteveS]

I hear you Avshalom. I have been saying with more than one post, Trump will come under his greatest threat of being 'topple' from his throne beginning with his June 14 2018 SSR, which has the par-excellent angular aspect of SSR Saturn (rising) partile 90 his Natal Neptune, Bradley's par-excellent combo for being toppled from a throne.

[Jim Eshelman]

Take a look at Donald Trump's June 26 SLR. Seeing the chart is better than my describing it... but here is the breakdown.

t Pluto on EP (0°19') [sq. Uranus 2°15' in mundo]
t Saturn on Asc (-2°42')
t Sun on Dsc (-2°57')
-- Sun-Saturn op. (0°14' in mundo)

t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°57'
t Sun sq. r Neptune 0°30'

r Jupiter on MC (-6°42') - sq. t Pluto 1°56'
r Sun on Dsc (+6°56')
r Mercury on Dsc (-8°06')
r Moon on Asc (+8°33')

Middleground: t Mercury conj. r Venus 0°12'

He manifests, from the mundane arrangement, a Moon-Sun-Jupiter T-square with Jupiter culminating, but it is squared by Pluto's transit. The main body of the SLR, with Pluto plus Sun opposite Saturn (partile) - square his natal Neptune! - is startling.

This is the first SLR after his new SSR. The SSR is tough, though admittedly nowhere near this tough.

[SteveS]

6/26/SLR, should produce a significant Sun-Saturn incident if not hidden from public, possibly a burdensome separating situation.

[Jim Eshelman]

6/26/SLR, should produce a significant Sun-Saturn incident if not hidden from public, possibly a burdensome separating situation.

If it were an ingress chart iunstead of a personal lunar, "death of the president" would be a likely interpretation (or some milder version of the same idea).

[SteveS]

Could be his health Jim.

[staragewiz]

Robert Mueller Born 8/7/1943 in NYC Time Unknown
Nonetheless this Trump-Mueller Bi-Wheel reveals the war between
these two adversaries. Mueller's Mars on Trumps Wash. DC locality MC
paran-sq Trump's Natal Mars/ASC. While Mueller's Saturn close aspect
on Trump's Sun opp. Moon. Ouch!

Trump-Mueller Bi-Wheel.jpg

[Jim Eshelman]

I hadn't seen all this. Very cool.

To spell it out a little differently, including the mundane placements, we can place Mueller's chart in Trump's mundoscope (deleting precession first). Using noon for Mueller, we get:

Trump's Mars is 0°34' past Asc at White House
Mueller's Mars is 0°25' past Trump's WH MC

That's an 0°11' mundane square!

[Lance]

Comey’s birth time is unknown, so I used Noon.

Look at that solar opposition..

[Jim Eshelman]

Sun opposite Sun indeed!

But only one of them has Sun on the other's Moon. Comey is the natural "top" in that relationship.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

But only one of them has Sun on the other's Moon. Comey is the natural "top" in that relationship.

Explains Trump's enmity toward Comey right from the beginning. Also Comey towered over Trump, who prefers men who are shorter than he is.

[Lance]

Paraphrased from the synastry section: “Mars may hinder Uranus’ dreams and goals.”

Man this is just too perfect.

[Lance]

One Sun (Trump) transgresses the other (Comey) and earns a Saturn (Mueller) conjunct his Sun.

How perfectly karmic.... How astro-mythopoetic.

[Jim Eshelman]

I'm gonna go ahead and call it: The Trump-Kim meeting will happen as scheduled.

It's supposed to be June 12.

June 12 is the exact day that progressed Capsolar Sun enters 1° orb of conjunct Capsolar Venus. Before putting this together, I was ready to write that about June 12 we enter a part of the year when peace is a stronger wave.

Then I noticed that Trump will have progressed Venus conjunct natal Jupiter EXACTLY on June 15. It will be the apex of good things for him, and this kind of peace-diplomacy certainly matches the symbolism.

Saturn's square to his Neptune is exact June 13, which isn't as optimistic as the rest.

[Arena]

Trump called off the meeting.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKCN1IR06U

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Trump called it off because he thought Kim was about to over Bolton and Pence's posturing, so he did it first. With the continued N & S Korean leaders continuing to meet, and reassurances from Trump his VP and Bolton were not speaking for him, it may be back on. It may even happen on the 12th.

[Jim Eshelman]

Trump's Sun-Saturn-Neptune SLR June 26, summarized below, occurs during the June 22 Liblunar (which has Sun exactly rising, and distantly foreground Saturn and Neptune). Then, CapQ and CanQ quotidians to nova.

Perhaps as a lead-in, CanQ Ascendant opposes Saturn June 22, the day of the Liblunar. Then the CapQ takes over.

June 24-25 CapQ MC conjoins ingress Saturn, exactly opposite transiting Sun. CapQ MC and transiting Sun touch Capsolar Moon the next day, continuing the effect and shining a spotlight even more brightly. On 6/28, CapQ MC conjoins transiting Saturn's conjunction with ingress Mercury (all opposed by transiting Sun) emphasizing all Mercury-Saturn (and generally adverse Mercury) themes.

In the context of Trump's new SLR, and secondarily of the Liblunar, this week's CapQ crossings are really big deals!

Take a look at Donald Trump's June 26 SLR. Seeing the chart is better than my describing it... but here is the breakdown.

t Pluto on EP (0°19') [sq. Uranus 2°15' in mundo]
t Saturn on Asc (-2°42')
t Sun on Dsc (-2°57')
-- Sun-Saturn op. (0°14' in mundo)

t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°57'
t Sun sq. r Neptune 0°30'

Etc.

[SteveS]

Definitely, very high % something is headed Trump's way which will bring him down in some form/fashion with his June 26 SLR along with your other SMA observations.

[Jim Eshelman]

Just as an example of a time - a point in that period when the most key factors have positions that average or center around the CapQ angles - for June 27, 2018, 8:30 PM, at the White House coordinates. (It's the time when Saturn rises in DC also. and happens to bring the Moon back around to its Capsolar place, right in the mix.)

Trump Dump.jpg

[SteveS]

Looks very ominous to my eyes Jim, and when we look at Trump's June 26 SLR, more so, as you have already pointed out.

[Jim Eshelman]

The summit is currently scheduled for June 12, 2018, 9 AM, Singapore.
https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAydBXh?m=en-us&r ... InAppShare

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Trump came right out and said he could have shot Comey instead of fired him, and couldn't be prosecuted for it, because it wouldn't be illegal, and even if Teh Deep State somehow got him indicted or even convicted, he could just pardon himself.

He hasn't yet caught on we fought two wars about nope, we don't want and don't have a king.

I'm pretty sure he knows there's enough evidence to hang him, so all he's got left is claiming the Constitution doesn't say what it says.

Day 24 Melania is missing.

[Jim Eshelman]

It happened

I'm gonna go ahead and call it: The Trump-Kim meeting will happen as scheduled.

It's supposed to be June 12.

June 12 is the exact day that progressed Capsolar Sun enters 1° orb of conjunct Capsolar Venus. Before putting this together, I was ready to write that about June 12 we enter a part of the year when peace is a stronger wave.

Then I noticed that Trump will have progressed Venus conjunct natal Jupiter EXACTLY on June 15. It will be the apex of good things for him, and this kind of peace-diplomacy certainly matches the symbolism.

Saturn's square to his Neptune is exact June 13, which isn't as optimistic as the rest.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Apparently Michael Cohen has been telling friends over the weekend he expects to be arrested any day now and ABC News has announced he's going to flip on Trump, but that feels like speculation to me.

[Jim Eshelman]

Apparently Michael Cohen has been telling friends over the weekend he expects to be arrested any day now and ABC News has announced he's going to flip on Trump, but that feels like speculation to me.

Yeah, I'm not so sure he's going to. It would be lovely, but I'm not sold yet. (I've met him. My perception of his characvter in person resembles the feel from public reporting.)

But we do have that late June mundane and personal astrological structure that is consistent with Trump's head getting smacked with a 2"x4", so...

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Cohen and some of his really expensive lawyers have either fired each other or agreed to separate. The Trump family is either paying for them or not, but the number of lawyers needed to go through the stuff he claims is privileged client records is costing half the earth, and it looks like they're finding some who bill less per hour to handle it.
I think the idea he was about to cooperate came from his letting some of the lawyers go. He's still going to be broke when this is over, no matter what happens, and Trump is notorious for saying, oh, don't worry about it, I'll pay for it, and then not paying.

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes, I think you've assessed it all correctly.

This actually makes enormous legal sense. It's common these days to have armies of lower-rate to do document reviews (which can be heavily automated to keep costs low, though I don't know if the FBI is making that possible in this case - not sure whether the Special Master has had to actually review these hundreds of thousands of documents, or had support staff, or had it digitized). These lower cost attorneys are often people who specialize in exactly this kind of review work.

[Jim Eshelman]

Or, on where the idea came that he was going to sing like a canary instead of become a jail bird:

General legal opinion is that Cohen only has two options, since the FBI has him dead to rights. He either sings (cooperates) or takes the fall himself (goes to jail for a long time). Changing attorneys usually means a change of legal strategy. If there are only two strategies and you are changing from Plan A, you probably are going to Plan B. Ergo, he's getting singing lessons.

It's not that cut and dried, but it's understandable why the media, eager to have the story before the story breaks, is floating the possibility.

[Lance]

This morning, Joe Scarborough described Michael Cohen's new lawyer as someone who historically makes deals with the Southern District of New York instead of fighting against them.

[Jim Eshelman]

Michael Cohen said over the weekend that his priorities are now making his wife, daughter, and country his priorities, even if that places him at odds with President Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/us/m ... trump.html

[SteveS]

Here comes Trump's SSR Saturn partile 90 his Natal Neptune.

[Jim Eshelman]

I kinda can't believe I haven't looked at this before: On the next presidential inauguration date, Donald Trump has three super-major outer planet transits exact to the minute of arc!

t Pluto op. r Saturn 0°01'
t Neptune sq. r Uranus 0°00'
t Saturn sqq. r Uranus 0°00'

Additionally, he has:
t Uranus sqq. r Moon 0°30'
-- t Jupiter ssq. r Moon 0°07'
-- t Mars sqq. r Moon 0°36'

What in the billy-blue bewhatzzit do you make out of that?

Regardless of the exact meaning, it seems too much of a precise, inescapable destiny moment to think he's out of the picture by that time (though I suppose it's not inconsistent with, say, someone who just became able to be prosecuted getting ready for jail).

Of the three that are exact exact exact, here are standard interpretations:

Pluto-Saturn: Breaking down old structures and outmoded patterns. Security may seem threatened as stable resources are challenged. Chance to restructure the basis of life more dynamically. Work-oriented, obstinate; benefits from play and social sharing.

Neptune-Uranus: Altered views of reality stimulate important inner changes. A dream or temptation inspires you to major changes, maybe to overhaul your whole life. Exotic ideas, ingenuity, new perspectives.

Saturn-Uranus: Restrictions vs. freedom needs. Voluntarily accepting new limits or (more likely) rebelling against them. Tension. Perhaps intolerant, touchy, uncooperative, obstinate. Seek liberty through self-discipline and one-pointed intention.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

That's the day his chances of getting pardoned end.

[Jim Eshelman]

That's the day his chances of getting pardoned end.

True! Even if he's gone from office ahead of that time, a Republican administration (Pence or other) surely will have continued until then. So, either way, you're right.

His 2020 SSR is strange. Uranus on the MC square his Pluto and then... really nothing. His SLR for inauguration day is bleh, but the one a mnth earlier, in December, is very interesting with Jupiter and Saturn equally straddling Ascendant in Capricorn, etc.

Notice that on inauguration day Pluto is less than a week from entering Capricorn. I'm writing about that elsewhere this very minute.

[Jim Eshelman]

I think Trump's new batch of lunars are quite interesting. They're discussed in my new month's forecast here:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=46 ... 641#p17642

In particular, note that we get to watch an early expression of Neptune's transit to his natal Uranus for two weeks (beginning about yesterday).

[Jim Eshelman]

The yesterday's Manafort convictions and, especially, the guilty plea and incriminating testimony of Michael Cohen, Trump had a bad day yesterday. It all happened around 4 PM August 22, 2018.

In the face of Cohen's testimony, Trump is technically an unindicted co-conspirator to documented felonies. A grand jury hasn't yet named him such (as one did to Nixon), but it's implicit in the current record.

It's possible that Trump committed no campaign crime if the scenario is that he instructed Cohen to make payments (to affect the outcome of the election) which Trump eventually reimbursed, because that can be construed as Trump giving money to his own campaign - which he can do legally and without limit. However, the tricky part for him here is that Cohen committed crimes and, according to Cohen's testimony, Trump instructed him to do so. That makes Trump a party to Cohen's crimes.

I haven't had time to review Trump's chart in a pull-back overview, but only to reread my Trump Watch forecasts. His new SLR is clearly (by timing) at the heart of this, but perhaps not the whole story.

Taking a quick spin through his quotidians for 4 PM yesterday:

SNQ MC was 14°24' Virgo, within 2° (but not within 1° as I'd like) of conjunct progressed Neptune and progressed Mars. The Ma/Ne midpoint is 14°41' Virgo. But remember that progressed Moon is currently setting off some of the best, most protective progressed aspects one could want! His natal Uranus was on SNQ Descendant.

SQ Descendant was 0°21' from transiting Venus, but MC was just over a degree past solar Saturn. Transiting Moon may be feemed as setting it off by exactly crossing SQ MC. Asc is sq. SQ Moon 0°06'. All a bunch of limelight and unclarity.

PSSR (Mean) had nothing of note.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

They drug him off in a car to Andrews to go someplace just after Manacort's verdict was read yesterday. He wasn't watching when Cohen's came in. He knew something was going on, but not exactly what, at least from his answers to questions shouted at him at Andrews while he was getting on AF1. Usually he goes by helicopter from the White House, running a gauntlet of questions on the lawns. Somebody was protecting him.

[Avshalom Binyamin]

Yes, I'd bet that Trump was shielded from this by his handlers, and didn't find out the bad news until sometime between 8:45PM EST (when he tweeted about the rally he was at) and 8:45AM EST (when he tweeted about Cohen).

[SteveS]

Since Trump took a beat-down in this Midterm election by his party loosing the House majority, this morning I took another look at his stack of Sidereal Astrology charts, and think I found the one chart which explains the resounding political loss Trump suffered with the Dems retaking control of the House.

Below is Trumps DC current SLR (inside wheel) bi-wheeled with his DC Natal (outside wheel). Note his Natal Saturn on SLR Asc with his Natal Neptune on SLR IC. Some Sidereal Astrologers would class this Natal Saturn & Natal Neptune as a rare Natal Paran appearing on his SLR Asc-IC. This is the one chart which I think explains this political loss for Trump. If anyone else sees any other prominent malefic charts explaining this political loss for Trump, please post.

https://imgur.com/a/fIDrQwX

[SteveS]

Donald Bradley wrote from his book Solar and Lunar Returns:

…lunar returns usually “time” the major occurrences foreshadowed in the annual chart.

I think we just witness with Trump losing his House majority a good example of Bradley’s above words about the use of SLR’s. In the previous post there is a link for Trump’s Oct 14th SLR showing Trump’s Natal Saturn-Neptune falling on Trump’s Oct 14 SLR Asc and IC.

We see in Trump’s below linked current SSR (inside wheel), Natal (outside wheel) a very prominent SSR aspect of his Natal Neptune partile 90 his rising SSR Saturn. In fact, this prominent SSR Saturn-Neptune aspect ‘foreshadows’ an ‘outstanding incident’ in his solar year for a Saturn-Neptune incident.

Bradley speaks of angular Saturn-Neptune in return charts as having a ‘throne-toppling’ effect. Loosing his
House majority offered excellent SLR timing for this ‘throne-toppling’ effect.

https://imgur.com/a/uXsA7mW

[Jim Eshelman]

Here is reproduced my advanced analysis of Trump' October SLR. I'm rather proud of this one. - As an aside, nothing has so changed (transformed) my ability to read SLRs than acquiring the ability to get the natal planet mundoscope positions within the SLR framework. That gives the single biggest impact of the SLR under discussion. It shows aspects that don't exist otherwise (including natal aspect that don't exist otherwise) and gives us the real ability to rank natal planet angularity.

My protocol for analyzing an SLR now is this:
* Look at the SLR itself, just to get a strong first impression of what the chart is saying.
* Identify which natal and SLR planets are foreground or angular, ranking them according to their relative angularity.
* Identify all aspect (conjunction, opposition, square only) between these planets ONLY within 5°. Take both ecliptical and mundane aspects as equal (if a planet pair has both, use the closer orb). Rank these according to closeness.
* Assess the chart from these factors only.
* As a supplemental factor, take all partile aspects (0, 90, 180, including transit-to-transit and transit-to-natal) to add as 'background' information' on what's happening.

Anyway, here was the analysis of Trump' SLR written about 2 months before the election.

SIDEREAL LUNAR RETURN (Oct 14)SLR 10-14.jpg
Objectively, President Trump has good aspects as he enters the last half of October, especially Jupiter's transit of his natal IC. For example, this likely shows that his relationship with what politically is called his base is strong. Under this transit, the most private life elements, such as family and the sanctuary of the East Wing, provide his most rewarding pleasure and greatest respite.

However, emotionally he is a mess coming out of last fortnight's Demi-Lunar, and his new SLR reiterates most of the same themes for four more weeks.

Pluto on Descendant continues to square natal Jupiter (0°20'). This cannot be taken as positive for President Trump, given the rest of the chart. Here, it suggests not the odds-defying exaltation of the unlifted, but rather the tearing down of one who has reached a high peak.

Natal Venus, Saturn, and Neptune are closest to the angles. Natal Neptune is a mere 0°54' from IC and natal Saturn less than 2° below Ascendant. (Natal Venus is within 3° of Asc.) Mundanely, his close natal Venus-Saturn conjunction is even closer (0°51'), while Saturn square Neptune is 0°53' on the other side, placing Saturn at the Venus/Neptune midpoint within 0°01'.

This is disillusioning. Ideals fall, bubbles pop, and the enchantment ends. One becomes jaded and cynical from hurtful betrayals. Natal Venus-Saturn-Neptune thus arrayed reflect betrayal (on both sides of a transaction), dour mental states, heart-sickness, and increasing distrust of, well, pretty much everybody. Saturn-Neptune expresses emotional exhaustion, resignation, and defeat (or at least fear of defeat).

As if the chart needed anything further to mark it a downer, angular Sun squares natal Saturn; transiting Saturn (widely angular) squares natal Neptune; and Moon squares Neptune in mundo. The only planet likely to rouse some combative energy to pull him from the inertia of depression is transiting Mars in middleground partile opposition to natal Pluto, which suggests rage and volatile response to emotionally charged issues amidst high stress, driving one to the breaking point.

In the chart of someone less physically protected than the President of the United States, this series of charts would suggest a risk of suicide.

[SteveS]

Excellent Jim! Would love to see your analysis of Trump's 2020 SSR only looking at his Natal Planets related to his SSR transits, mainly because we don't know where his 2020 SSR sets-up. I see a-lot of negative aspects.

[Jim Eshelman]

Steve, you know i dont do these until the last minute. Can it wait until May 2020?