What makes you LGBT+

[Saya Otonashi]

This thread is dedicated to the planetary combinations etc. that can make people LGBT+.

I always thought Uranus plays a part in 'out of the norm' sexuality and it's quite accurate.

Well, here's an interesting post on lesbians:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/117177595/AS ... -A-LESBIAN

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Did you see the material already in the archives? Might be worth a look so we don't repeat repeat repeat ourselves.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Please don't post mulitple threads on the same subject.

Badly afflicted 7th house? Um...

You seem to be a tropicalist. I think you may want to find out who we are and what we do before posting more. Start here: https://www.solunars.org/

[Saya Otonashi]

Oops! Sorry.
I didn't mean to.

Feel free to delete any repetitions.

I wanted to change the name but I somehow ended up with duplicate topics.

Btw I'm a Vedic astrology enthusiast

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

I merged the two topics.
You're welcome here, but this is not a Vedic forum. And you weren't born under the sign of Cancer.

[Saya Otonashi]

I merged the two topics.
You're welcome here, but this is not a Vedic forum. And you weren't born under the sign of Cancer.

Thanks for merging and for your welcome

Oh, I thought sidereal means Vedic because all yhe constellations names are same as that of Vedic.

And yes, I'm not Cancer as per Vedic either. So I got really confused

Anyway, sidereal astrology is interesting! Might as well learn some

[Jim Eshelman]

Ugh. I spent half an hour writing a long answer to this then, on trying to save it, it evaporated - because the thread I was answering didn't exist any longer.

I'm not going to recreate the answer, but I wanted you to know I took the time to answer it.

[Venus_Daily]

This is a multi-faceted answer.

[Saya Otonashi]

Ugh. I spent half an hour writing a long answer to this then, on trying to save it, it evaporated - because the thread I was answering didn't exist any longer.

I'm not going to recreate the answer, but I wanted you to know I took the time to answer it.

That happened because I wanted to change the name of the thread and it somehow became 2 threads. Later, the mod merged them.

I'm so sorry for the trouble, it's your wish whether or not you want to recreate the answer, because I know it's very annoying to write a long article and then have it gone. The frustration remains and I end up abandoning the task myself.

I just want to thank you for your help on my natal chart thread (please answer my question there) and for creating this forum I appreciate it.

[randallnyc]

Here is THE answer on "what makes you LGBT" irrespective of which system of astrology you use: NOTHING ASTROLOGICALLY. End of story. That's like asking if astrology can determine if someone is left-handed.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

LGBT+ are all so different. While it's the style now to lump them all together as "gender identities that are discriminated against or actively dangerous to admit to" they aren't all the same thing. I suspect you are asking about an orientation toward same sex partners.
While Randall's declaration is factual for the most part, I think there are natal aspects that point to a tendency toward same sex orientation, but they don't always express if they aren't angular and the environment isn't conducive.

We do have to understand astrology is not the only thing that makes people what they are. There's Fagan's famous example of a King of England and a commoner, born at the same time on the same date within a mile or so of each other, whose lives proceeded along the same paths and timelines. They married on the same date. At the time one was crowned King, the other opened his own business. Things like that. There's nature and nurture, conditions set at birth, things you're born with, and things that come from your environment. Sometimes it's hard to separate what "causes" what, and sometimes several things work together.

[randallnyc]

I would think Fagan's use of the Novien, which he called a "Sexascope" may shed light.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

I doubt it.
If you type "novien" into the search box upper right on this page, you'll get 5 pages of references. Skip to the fifth page and you'll find a thread The Novien - Fagan's views and another STUDY - U.S. Presidents - Navamsa vs. Novien. Another is Navamsa vs. Novien Moon for U.S. Presidents .

Most of the rest of the postings about Noviens (and Navamsas) here just repeat the information given in those threads when somebody brings them up again.

[Avshalom Binyamin]

Mars-Uranus will give a person sexual creativity, and outside-the box ideas. Pluto will give authenticity and refusal to follow "norms".

[Veronica]

Mars/Uranus.....Mars-Uranus

Hmmm....

I have never wanted to have sex with a girl
But maybe Ive never met a girl who combined with me in a way that inticed me to explore.
I have entangled with a man
And we have this aspect
Does that mean we are gay?
That the stars show some determined quailty that lay latent waiting to be explored?
Maybe
Maybe not

In this link it is said
I was born when I was born because thats who I am
Not
I am who I am because I was born....

I grew up with my father constantly asking me
"Why did you do that"

And he never let me make excuses for my behavior

It was an excellent read and I think weighs in on this conversation.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1968&p=14034&hilit=Harmonic#p14034

[Jim Eshelman]

Veronica, I think it's more true that if you were inclined to want to have sex with a woman, you wouldn't let convention, timidity, other people's opinions stop you from it. Similarly, if you were just a little interested and thought somebody was going to try to stop you, or if you just wanted an adventure, you might go ahead and do it anyway.

Strong Mars-Uranus aspects mean that in pretty much every area of your life you are uncompromisingly individualist, bold, a natural rebel who challenges prevailing thinking, often leaping into something new and offbeat. You take risks psychologically, are more sexually uninhibited than most people, and trust your own instincts more than outside advice.

This is what I meant about these being lifestyle effects more than markers of homosexuality per se. Imagine yourself really wanting to have sex with a woman in a time and place where this was condemned and repressed. You would be one of the people that would say, "I don't care, I'm going for it. C'mere, babe!" Right? And then your chart would be added by some astrologer to the pile of bi or lesbian charts they were collecting

This is why, during earlier decades, one rarely found an openly gay person, living a candidly gay lifestyle, that didn't have one or more of Venus or Mars aspecting Uranus or Pluto; and today you can easily find gays' charts without these. Bless the rebels, they knock down the walls that bind everyone else.

[Veronica]

Right you are Jim!
Very true.
Your damn straight that if I was inclined to have sex with anyone...I would. No holds barred.
Annndddd.....
B.E.G.
If society said it was taboo....
I would do it full force on the Altar in which they were bound....in broad daylight....and probaly put a notice in the paper before hand so everyone could come and watch....

But that not just sex.
If I was inclinded to knit a sweater and it was forbidden to knit.....
Id be right there again....hookin one pearling two.

That is who I am after all.
I trust my heart
And if my heart says I need a knitted sweater
Then Im going to knit a sweater


I thought long and hard about me being a little interested....and thinking someone was trying to stop me. Woo that made me go...no way...no one has ever tried to stop me from anything I wanted. But then I remembered when I first got my job at the library years ago and I wanted to get my hands on the Reference Books in the Occult case the librarian had locked up behind her desk. Damn them holders of the key i thought to myself. Who do they think they are limiting knowldge and information. It took me some time and alot of hard work but She gave me the key after I proved I was responsible.

[Jim Eshelman]

Exactly!

[mikestar13]

Reminds me of a female coworker I read a nativity for in the 80's. Her sexual adventures with guys were notorious with her full consent--she told me she enjoyed having a "reputation." Seeing a tight Venus-Uranus square with angular Mars rising in Aquarius, I said "you go for girls too." She asked me "what bitch told you, I'll kill her!" No one had and there were no rumors. What I knew of her personality combined with the chart made it a good 90+% guess. Later we became good friends and confidants. She told me "I don't crave a woman nearly as often as I crave a man, but when I do, it's much more intense." She is also very high on the list of women I regret never having sex with.

[TheScales_BothWays]

This is what I meant about these being lifestyle effects more than markers of homosexuality per se. Imagine yourself really wanting to have sex with a woman in a time and place where this was condemned and repressed. You would be one of the people that would say, "I don't care, I'm going for it. C'mere, babe!" Right? And then your chart would be added by some astrologer to the pile of bi or lesbian charts they were collecting

This is why, during earlier decades, one rarely found an openly gay person, living a candidly gay lifestyle, that didn't have one or more of Venus or Mars aspecting Uranus or Pluto; and today you can easily find gays' charts without these. Bless the rebels, they knock down the walls that bind everyone else.

This is interesting. Yes my observations match that of Jim's, that gay people born in homophobic countries, or who were born during homophobic times, are more likely to have these aspects close, (especially Mars-Pluto and Venus-Pluto aspects) and in more progressive, LGBT friendly countries, it's not as often to find gay people with them.

I also noticed that a few gay men even had a prominent Pluto (e.g. Sun-Pluto aspects) like transgender people. I suppose they are/were under even worse oppression. And then I once saw a bisexual guy's chart with a close Mercury-Uranus aspect, something Jim has noticed among some bisexuals too.

I also (kinda?) notice that gay people with these aspects (Venus or Mars aspecting Pluto especially, myself included) are more willing to "stick being gay", i.e. are less willing to marry people of the opposite sex to blend into society. Because it is hard for some gay people to "stick being gay" in a homophobic country. It was sad when a fellow Malaysian gay man online, once told me "Are you 100% gay? You don't like women at all? Are you going to stick being gay in this country? It will be very hard".

But it's not like once they marry the opposite sex, they don't end up having gay sex again...

[Soft Alpaca]

Let me be blunt.

I'm not gay, I just havent met a woman who does it.

When people ask why dont I like the feminine counterpart I typically respond with "my dick doesn't like vagina, I see it and go soft, and that's why I'm gay". This goes the same for the female body in general. Its entirely sexual/physical not emotional.

I get asked this not so frequently because I am comfortable with my masculinity and I'm rather dominant (so much so that people are afraid to ask if they get a hunch).

Part of being gay too for me is asserting my dominance on a figure society typically sees as a more dominant figure, therefore I don't like feminine men. Partly because it's fun, partly because I want to spite the social standard.

This confuses some people more because I'm a extremely masculine person who likes other masculine people. [With other preferences of course].

Another part of the dominance for me is I won't receive, nor will I go down on someone. I've done the latter before once when I was younger [try everything once you know] and phalis doesn't do it for me either, in addition while im comfortable with my masculinity I am not comfortable in a position where I'm not in physical control.

In terms of dating I would date a woman if her personality was great. I would of course be upfront about not being bisexual. I attribute this openness to romamce being Venus acting on my Sun. In addition Uranus lets me be open minded. Bi-romantic is cool because I dont feel as limited [another feeling I don't like].

In terms of being homosexual for me its so easily Mars-Uranus for the dominance side. Uranus and Pluto are what causes me to do it to strike out against society, which I am told I'm radical to other gays (most of whom I've met support more feminine energy in at least one partner, they don't all see that they support the idea of like energy).

I don't particularly like loud, bold, rainbow waving gay side ether. The community wants to be accepted then they should stop trying to be different (I'm fone with the wanting to be different part but then don't complain when your treated differently). This thought is a huge part of my sexuality but I'd still consider it in the realm of Uranus because it is a radical thought, it's just as loud as pride but for a different reason. In addition to Pluto because this is part of being authentically myself.

For reference I have:
r Uranus-Nov. Venus
r Uranus- Nov. Mercury
Nov. Mars-r Uranus
Nov. Uranus-r Mars
r Mars- Nov. Mercury
Mars-Mercury (double strength)
Mars-Venus (double strength)
Pluto-Moon
In addition to Mars and Pluto acting on Jupiter.

[Jim Eshelman]

It hadn't occurred to me that one way your Sagittarius comes is in dominance - hierarchical seniority in terms of being "the one on top." - It has, of course, always been clear that defying convention (especially arbitrary convention) is important to your Moon-Pluto square.

You draw a "laugh out loud" chortle out of me with your open declaration, though. It reminded me of a friend of a friend. He was straight by choice and activity his whole adult life but, in a couple of long trips crisscrossing the U.S. by thumb he had, er, routinely paid the toll for his hitchhiking as a practical expediency. At a noisy social event, the room just happened to get temporarily quiet (a lull in the noisy conversations) the moment he said (a bit loud), "I've sucked enough cock in my life to know I'm not gay." As it echoed around the room, it was a bit more forthright than he had meant it to be, I think.

Anyway, it seemed to me that you were presuming a measure of 'fay' (heavily fem-leaning) in homosexuality, then contrasting yourself to that as an exception. However (perhaps because I had so many friends in the Hollywood gay street scene in the '70s), I don't think that characterization is any more true than in the rest of the population. One gay friend (a prominent Sidereal astrologer btw) who had a Leo Sun trine Mars and an exact Moon-Mars square explained to me his view once: That, far from being anything fem, his homosexuality (and that of most men he knew) was because he was more into male body parts and characteristics that most people. It was, to him, hyper-male, hyper-phallic, not un-male. (Kind of like, years ago, when somebody asked me why men get so hot at Lesbian porn and I answered, "Twice as many naked women having sex.")

FWIW.

[Soft Alpaca]

Thanks for the response Jim. I dont think I would attribute the physical part of my power needs to Sagittarius however, the mental being on top makes sense. For me the physicality is clearly Mars in nature not Sun/Jupiter. There is also a distinction between the two energies I have noticed. For Jupiter it's a desire to be on top and the preference is the easiest path. For Mars it's all about the struggle.
I don't want a predator prey situation, it is more fun when it's more like two tigers fighting.

Also Pluto for me is not a loud planet, it's just dynamic. Without Uranus/Mars and some Jupiter/Sun influences I dont think I would ever ACT on my Pluto energy.

[TheScales_BothWays]

I don't particularly like loud, bold, rainbow waving gay side ether. The community wants to be accepted then they should stop trying to be different (I'm fone with the wanting to be different part but then don't complain when your treated differently).

What's wrong with that. I don't remember reading anything in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that said a human's rights depend on how they behave and present themselves in society.

Also I don't see how drag queens, guys in their underwear or leather BDSM outfits, and kissing lesbians wearing and waving pride flags marching down the street would be a huge problem that lead to why the LGBT community is not being accepted. They were doing things like that since the Stonewall riots. Very Mars-Uranus things that Jim talked about a few posts above. And it lead to marriage equality for your country in 2015. You said you relate to Mars-Uranus very much. Aren't you able to see anything Mars-Uranus in pride parades? It's literally a march of people fed up of homophobic nonsense and being treated like second-class citizens, like contemptible sub-humans, and saying f you, I will be wholeheartedly unapologetically myself, and I'll play with your stereotypes of us to scare you off. That latter bit is also pretty Capricorn. This is something you would love! Maybe you can try heading down to NYC for Pride next year. Get the Stonewall spirit in you.

Most people in the LGBT community are pretty normal people, as you would know. Some are a little "slutty" and flamboyant at times, but who cares, what's the issue with that actually. Homophobes back then said being gay is unnatural, disgusting, an abomination, and now when it's not cool to say that anymore, they say they don't like their agenda, how rainbow and freakish they are, being indecent and ish. It doesn't change the fact that the LGBT community deserves all the right to live a normal life like everyone else, yes?

There's also nothing un-masculine with liking men, with taking part in pride parades, with being bold, or boldly flamboyant, if that's your issue. You're a masc4masc gay guy, and with what I've observed, I don't really think masculine gay men are any less masculine than straight men. The former like men, the latter like women. That is all. And not all straight men are very masculine, of course (and it's cool ).

[Veronica]

Let me be blunt.

I'm not gay, I just havent met a woman who does it.

I had no idea who this member was so I read the whole thinking....hmmm.....

I completely agree
You are not gay.

You sound like you have absolutely no emotional connection or deep feelings for the men you are dominating. You say you wont recieve, yet your giving?
Relationships are about bonding and from what you have admitted you are doing in your sex life, I dont see any mutal bonds.

Thats not gay.
Ill refrain from saying what I actually think it is.
But I will say that in my expierence
What comes around goes around

[Soft Alpaca]

Well Veronica (this is Scarlet btw I changed my name). I can a do have normal relationships with men. In fact in part I crave them (sun-venus) however sometimes all I can get is just this power struggle.

If you want me to say I like to go on candle lit dates in the Moon light at a cemetery and then go home and cuddle up because it's a cold fall night, I do enjoy and do these things. As I enjoy having a partner, however that level of intimacy is for me very private and hard to share in front of or even speak deeply on to other people.


As for the scales, hell yea I see the pride parades as Mars-Uranus, just like I've seen hate parades fall under the same planet thesis. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying bright colors and loud social gatherings arent my thing. Also that I've met people who want to be treated the same yet actively scream that they are different at the same time. It gives me a headache.

The Pluto in me is strong because I'm typically anti-Society, including with the gay society. I've been treated poorly by them as much as the "straight society"...

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Veronica, I think what Scarlet/Raksasa is doing here is "performing masculinity." The name change, the brash words. He is likely feeling like he needs to do this in the real world, and is being consistent so he doesn't slip up. He's in a new setting, away from family and friends he can trust. This is a common response, in my experience.

It's common enough in the US in general to equate "gay" with "swish" with "target because he can't defend himself." In the northeast away from the coasts, it's even more dangerous. Presenting as hyper-masculine is often a safety measure. And Scarlet being Scarlet, (being Raksasa) he's going all in to the point of "dating" women he has no physical interest in and emoting about how he presents here. It's not a big deal (well, it might be to some of the women he's dating.)

Remember Matthew Shepard.

[Veronica]

Excellent points and observations and I am glad you said them. I do recall Matthew....we all should keep that. Uglyness in our memory.

My gut went out to those to whom his actions maybe a big deal too...Im not judging what two consenting Adults do for sure. What ever floats thier boat, It just feels like there are alot of unerlying motives and lack of clear communication and intent which was what prokoved my hmmmmm response.


Concidering what I understand about Budda as the Avatar of Compassion the lack of integrity and congruency between words and deeds seemed like a very slippery slope being walked or at least, talked.

Thanks for the clarity

[Veronica]

Scarlett

Let me get this straight, or gay, or crooked or what ever...

Its easier for you to write to strangers that you like to have agressive dominate sex with males

Then to say you enjoy tender imtimate bonding of a nurturing nature......

And your a Buddist now

Dude...I spill my guts about the nature of who I am as a soul incarnate in the most raw nastiest as honest as I can be in this moment.....to strangers (for the most part) because I know they have no reason to not call me on my {bs}...to not be as honest as can be about the crazy arse shit Ive said...and that is why I can do it.
They have no motive to lie to me and spare me my oh so human oversensitivites.

You post bs where it comes across like you are being mean and using people to fu ck Society....which you did say....I dont care how big and bad and macho and strong and manly you think you are. I have a Scorpio moon and Mars and a Sun in Aquaius and a venus in Capricorn....and I will not sit here and say...oh thats ok...you got some f ed up chart afflictions that makes it ok for you to hurt bully and use people.

Now I will add though that Imo....all souls have a preexisting contract with other souls so that all acts and deeds are not one of prey preditor victim and abuser. Thats bs.

Push your confort level and use your muscles in a more co tructive way by being honest with yourself about who you really are and stop trying to rewrite your chart into some comic book character that you feel is pleasing or is not pleasing to the world you seem to hate so much.

[Soft Alpaca]

I changed my name on here because I got bored of it and wanted something new. It was plutonian in thought.

It's hard for me to have sex with strangers, I have to know the person. I don't really take comfort in sleeping with many people, in fact I'd rather have on committed partner im with for a long time.

For me part of the hyper-masculinity is how I was raised. Also I've decided to declare being Buddhist, i have looked into it for a while, this was recently just a declaration of official nature.

I don't know how to trust even back home so I don't know where the using performance masculinity ties in with that. I do understand why you would see it as a defense mechanism however.

DISCLAIMER: I've never dated a woman

In terms of dating I WOULD date a woman if her personality was great. I would of course be upfront about not being bisexual. I attribute this openness to romamce being Venus acting on my Sun. In addition Uranus lets me be open minded. Bi-romantic is cool because I dont feel as limited [another feeling I don't like].

V, my mom is a Scorpio Moon from the Uranus in Scorpio generation, Aquarius Sun trine Pluto. Plus a Mars-Saturn-Pluto conj. Square her Capricorn Venus. She is one of the biggest humanitarian and spiritual people I know. I dont think any of what you stated justifies a bully in anyway.
I'm not here to hurt people or be a bully, but I am cynical and like to mess with people mentally. I dont mean to be mean or awful, I'm just saying that I'm a little sick in the head.

I'm a complicated person, in fact we all are. I was simply expressing how I feel about my homosexuality in terms of the sexual side. I can be a soft person at the same time. Also if you look at my chart the only planets I don't have access to are Neptune and the Moon. There is no Venus anti-thesis in my chart in fact my Venus-Mars-Uranus could all be read together as a big aspect.

I'm learning how I come across online and unfortunately I'm not the same way in real life. I can't express or explain this because there is no proof for you all to observe. So if it makes you feel any comfort please take me with a grain of salt. I really don't mind nor do I want to be a comic book hero or the center of the universe, I'm just told that I'm Solar and I'm Jovial but I don't understand these energies. I only understand that they are strong in my chart and the perception of my personality.

[Jim Eshelman]

I changed my name on here because I got bored of it and wanted something new. It was plutonian in thought.

Sounds Sagittarian to me. That is, Pluto per se doesn't get bored (no more than any other planet and less than several planets) or undertake change just for the sake of something new (Pluto is transformative - stepping outside of prior context altogether, trans-form - not change-prone like Uranus, i.e., just rearranging the pieces).

OTOH Spoke constellations like Sagittarius tend to need variety, get bored easily, and shift from one thing to the other.

For me part of the hyper-masculinity is how I was raised. Also I've decided to declare being Buddhist, i have looked into it for a while, this was recently just a declaration of official nature. I don't know how to trust even back home so I don't know where the using performance masculinity ties in with that.

It strikes me that part of this also is Sagittarian, i.e., you're speaking of standardized roles and rituals, That aside, you do have a dominating bias in your chart with a Leo Moon, Mars in Capricorn, etc., and a personal history that probably makes you uncomfortable with acting (what you may regard as) weak or submissive.

[Soft Alpaca]

Jim everything you just said made perfect sense.
Also the new name is biased of of Nakshatra Gana (I dint need to explain that this is clearly a Jupiter-Sun instance due to myth).

Declaring Buddhist was hard btw because it went against what Pluto wants and still I don't follow it as a religion as much as a spirituality.

The dominance also stems from the Mars-Uranus side it's kind of like someone calls gay people week and I respond with "bet", then they either back down or test my patients (I've never hit first, but I have hit to seriously injure) and part of being Buddhist is a mental reminder to try not to do it (I do chalk this up to Jupiter).

Generally speaking I'm seeing Mars-Uranus (reading their aspect), Jupiter and Suns (angularity), and Pluto (Moon aspect) describe me with no gaps. Taking away some from Jupiter due to Plutos anti-thesis.

[Veronica]

"V, my mom is a Scorpio Moon from the Uranus in Scorpio generation, Aquarius Sun trine Pluto. Plus a Mars-Saturn-Pluto conj. Square her Capricorn Venus. She is one of the biggest humanitarian and spiritual people I know. I dont think any of what you stated justifies a bully in anyway.
I'm not here to hurt people or be a bully, but I am cynical and like to mess with people mentally. I dont mean to be mean or awful, I'm just saying that I'm a little sick in the head. "

I never said anything about your mother.
You cant bully people here....but by admitting that you mess with peoples heads in you real life....
Id call you an a hole or a bully
And I dont mesh with bullies.
You do mean to mean and awful and Im not going to pussyfoot around that crap youve said.
Your proud of being sick it sounds and lets you be irresponsible and srlfish and sadistic.

Your mother is quick to anger
She just turns it in on herself instead of you.
You wanna fight with a tiger well hows it gonna feel when a bigger badder tiger wins and you are on the recieving end.

Your not gay or homosexual. You want to be with a woman. You say it yourself.

Id tell you to stop being a bully
But hey if thats who you are
God loves diversity after all

[Soft Alpaca]

Why am I a bully? Why do I want to be with a woman? I'm lost on these two points...

I dont understand what the words I'm willing to date a woman if I met one that I like their personality, but I never have met one yet.

I think saying your gay or straight rigidly is a level of ignorance because we haven't met all 8 billion people on the earth. In saying that I'd be willing to date a woman I'm acknowledging that I know their ar billions of people out there and I want to give them all equal chance.

My mom isnt an angry person, she doesn't even yell she was abused to the point where she consciously makes sure she doesn't do what's done to her. I've faced isolation and abodandoment and that's why I'm so hard against society. Also I dont believe in God.

Sometimes the bigger badder tiger wins, if we live it makes a stronger. I've had a bigger tiger take away my parents take away my childhood take away a part of my mental sanctuary.

You seem to have a problem with a stereotype of a hyper-masculine person almost as if you have experienced abuse or disdain from Male figures in your life, to which I say I'm not this stereotypical violent bully.

In fact most of this masculinity stems from not having a father and not being able to defend myself or the people I loved. However this doesn't have to deal with the topic of LGBT so I didn't say it.

[Veronica]

Nope
Im only going by what the words you have written. Which are all over the place and riddled with your persona and character. Why dont you open your own posts and read them all from the beginning.
I really dont care to engage at all with you honestly but you say so much outlandish bs that I do feel the need to be a jerk and make you pause and possibly reflect on just what words and meaning you use.

Please do not private inbox me and try to push my buttons bc I dont care to engage privately at all with you. Im not into playing your head games and I certainly dont feel the need to share pricately details of my life with you.
I have shared my stories on my own thread in an attempt to better understand myself and bc I feel Sidreal Astrology is the best tool for that and I trust Jim, Jupiter and Danica to call me on my own self delusions and point me in ways to grow in love and light.
Do what you want with whom ever
Its none of my business
But just prepared for people in your real life to have a similiar reaction like I do to your head games.

[Veronica]

Scarlett said
"Let me be blunt.

I'm not gay, I just havent met a woman who does it.

When people ask why dont I like the feminine counterpart I typically respond with "my dick doesn't like vagina, I see it and go soft, and that's why I'm gay". This goes the same for the female body in general. Its entirely sexual/physical not emotional.

I get asked this not so frequently because I am comfortable with my masculinity and I'm rather dominant (so much so that people are afraid to ask if they get a hunch).

Part of being gay too for me is asserting my dominance on a figure society typically sees as a more dominant figure, therefore I don't like feminine men. Partly because it's fun, partly because I want to spite the social standard.
"
To be blunt....your not gay.
You said that.

Your not bi either
You said that also in another post

Your dick goes soft when you see a vagina.
Which implies it was hard. That you were attracted, but then something emotionally happened to cause you to not be able to perform.

So instead of dealing with what your real issues are, which are in your chart, you are taking that emotional rage or disguest or fear or anger out by playing tiger with men who are gay and who may care for you but your using them and the gay nominclature to seek revenge on the world that took your parents (wait, i thought you said your mom was alive? Whered she go, ) and left you fatherless and as a child the sole provider of your siblings (oh wait, i thought you said as a teen you got to act like a child?)

I think what you are doing to the males you are dominating is displaced rage, which is mean and bullies to subject them too...and wait...since your not gay and are only f ucking them to get back at society do you tell thrm you are bi because hey...there are 8billion people and you never know...what about those mens feelings who think you are gay? And yea...the girls you date and lead on. Do you tell them you shag men? But wait you dont like phalkus (you said that) so you dont love thier genitals or let tbem take pleasure in you giving....

You said so something else about yourself and I think you nailed.

I know exactly how young you are, and young men full of emotion and frustration and testoerone are some of the most vile dangerous beings. I dont dislike you but I see you as a very dangerous person and I am concerned that you are treading some very deep and dangerous water.

Mathew Sheppard was killed by his "not gay" lover. It wasnt a hate crime against gays.

You would do well to follow Jupiters advice and seek a healthy outlet for your inner emotional turmoil. Id say take a two hour run everyday and think about why your running. And i also think you need to lay off the drugs and alcohol and get a clear head so you can process your real emtions and stop covering them up with your astrological bs to justify your behavior of hurting people who are trying to love you.