Venusian concerns

[TheScales_BothWays]

Originally posted by myself on Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:31 am
All times of postings are in MYT/UTC+8.

So instead of what I should be focused to right now (studies, being a responsible son and what not), my life at least seems to be so Venussy now. Maybe because that's the only part of my life which is volatile now.

Around May 25th (late night of 24th till ~9pm 26th actually) progressed Venus set at my Quotidian descendant. Very emotional, only thing that I didn't do was cry.
I fell for another guy, he's two grades lower than me at school but still unattainable like my Dallas crush.
In this case, the schoolmate is straight, and not that he lives far away, but what's the difference anyway.

transiting NEPTUNE aspecting Natal VENUS
.....Somehow you now tend to pursue an unreachable love object (examples: involvement with someone already romantically committed; spiritual devotion, seeking a "wedding with God;" having an exalted ideal for a lover that cannot be met, etc. .....

And on that day I tried to reconsider my commitments, and immediately I was like, "Scales, seriously? What're you doing with your life, I thought that you're better than this..." and like that. (Still am, but not that seriously like on that day)
Most of the period was depressing, sadly.
I'm pretty sure both Saturn and Neptune (which were screwing with my natal Venus) came into play, ruining a what could've been a pleasant day instead (p.Venus on quotidian angle, guys!).
But it also could've partly been n.Moon at p.Descendant?
Thank goodness I'm not that smitten to him now (the schoolmate).

Next, 2nd June.
tr. Venus was squaring my natal counterpart.
Went shopping to buy some clothes for my upcoming sister's wedding. Supposed to be another fine day, at least for a teenager.
Neptune-Venus made me really excited to try everything on (what's that idiom again for these types of situations again? "Like a something in some place"~ish?) but Saturn-Venus made me really insecure and ugly in everything, and also slapped reality to my face that we didn't had much money anyway.
I ended up with what a lunar Capricorn would buy instead of what a solar Libra would.

TBH I'm so sick of these malefics screwing over my sign's ruler.
Curse both Neptune and Saturn. What lesson am I supposed to learn with their transits to my natal Venus anyway?

While my Venus gets figuratively "raped" by Saturn and Neptune, Uranus will join in by sesquisquaring it. (I know that sesquisquares work -- just look at how Neptune sesquisquaring my Sun is ruining my sense of direction in life!)
I seriously have no clue what it'll bring -- it's benefic effects can only be felt by accepting the change that Uranus will bring!
I do not know whether I would have the chance to do the above in the first place.
Hopefully it brings relief instead of complicating matters even more.

Again, Venus matters are taking over my life, just like what my SSR said, but I didn't expect it to turn out this way.
Also again, what am I doing with my life.

[TheScales_BothWays]

FlorencedeZ. on Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:50 am

Hi Scales,
You also have a long term transit of Uranus sesquisquare Pluto going on. Reading the above I think it really is your Neptune sesquisquare Sun transit at play.
All the best,
rgds, Flo

[TheScales_BothWays]

TheScales_BothWays on Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:07 am

Hi Scales,
You also have a long term transit of Uranus sesquisquare Pluto going on. Reading the above I think it really is your Neptune sesquisquare Sun transit at play.
All the best,
rgds, Flo

Wow yes Uranus-Pluto is really descriptive! How did I even miss that?
And yes Neptune-Sun too! I guess I didn't stress it enough in my first post.
And both won't end till early 2018! (so goes to the upcoming tr.Uranus-n.Venus sesquisquare)
*Sighs*

[TheScales_BothWays]

Jim Eshelman on Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:25 am

This is a fascinating stream of events, and of reporting. Sorry it's flinging you around so hard - What I do see, though, are the positive traits of good introspection supported by good journaling / tracking of what's going on with you. These traits (not all that common in 16-year-olds) will serve you really well in your life.

It raises some interesting questions of why this particular stream of Venus "hits" - each of them quite minor by itself - is flinging you around so. Yes, you are a Libra (and a Libra with a closely angular Neptune) and, for that matter, you're also in the exact stage of life when Venus matters are usually dominant - when our "Venus identities" are being forged, and Venus themes most dominate our lives. Thirdly, yes, your 15° Leo Venus has been in the firing line of a whole stream of big planet aspects this summer (though none of them are within several degrees of your Venus right now).

Your stream of events, though, had me thinking about the question of why you would be especially sensitized so something so minor as Venus quotidian hits right now - usually a flitting event easy to miss, rather than something dominating your whole attention.

I think the main reason is in your current solar return. It says that Venus is going to totally dominate your reality this year, open to the whole stream of swings and surges you're talking about.

Consider the following (even though there are other factors layering in):

12°18' Aqu - s, Neptune
13°56' Leo - s. EP
14°01' Sco - r. Pluto
14°24' Leo - s. Asc
14°52' Leo - s. Venus
15°10' Leo - r. Venus

There are many, many other things about this SSR worth commenting on, in support and counterpoint and variation - but these are the biggest Venus themes. (The other gigantic thing is more Pluto, a 0°28' Moon-Pluto conjunction).

Add one more thing on timing: SSR IC is 17°02' Scorpio, so planets transiting farther than your Venus, more in the 17° range, are (at the very least) transiting your SSR angle; but, more subtly, planets at 17° Taurus-Scorpio are in paran with your natal and SSR Venuses.

So... you're all primed, since your last birthday and until your next, to be utterly in the throes of Venus.

[TheScales_BothWays]

TheScales_BothWays on Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:24 am

First of all, thank you for your kind words, Jim!

This is a fascinating stream of events, and of reporting. Sorry it's flinging you around so hard - What I do see, though, are the positive traits of good introspection supported by good journaling / tracking of what's going on with you. These traits (not all that common in 16-year-olds) will serve you really well in your life.

No problem, let the flinging stay with me .
*Blushes* Hmm, I usually consider my introspectiveness to be a Libran trait?

SUN IN LIBRA, the Balance
...
-Not satisfied with themselves as they are; very conscious of the fact that they could be doing better, that their personalities need an overall - but do very little about it.
...

Yeah I usually do very little about myself, but I'm not gonna get anything from being so, so I'm trying to change this when possible.

It raises some interesting questions of why this particular stream of Venus "hits" - each of them quite minor by itself - is flinging you around so. Yes, you are a Libra (and a Libra with a closely angular Neptune) and, for that matter, you're also in the exact stage of life when Venus matters are usually dominant - when our "Venus identities" are being forged, and Venus themes most dominate our lives. Thirdly, yes, your 15° Leo Venus has been in the firing line of a whole stream of big planet aspects this summer (though none of them are within several degrees of your Venus right now).

Your stream of events, though, had me thinking about the question of why you would be especially sensitized so something so minor as Venus quotidian hits right now - usually a flitting event easy to miss, rather than something dominating your whole attention.

I think the main reason is in your current solar return. It says that Venus is going to totally dominate your reality this year, open to the whole stream of swings and surges you're talking about.

Exactly, that's what I was thinking!

Consider the following (even though there are other factors layering in):
12°18' Aqu - s, Neptune
13°56' Leo - s. EP
14°01' Sco - r. Pluto
14°24' Leo - s. Asc
14°52' Leo - s. Venus
15°10' Leo - r. Venus

Yup, both natal and solar Venuses are foreground!
Aye, I even have my current SSR chart printed out for me a long time ago!

The other gigantic thing is more Pluto, a 0°28' Moon-Pluto conjunction

Would me meeting my crush online fit for Moon-Pluto?
While yes, I do seem more anti-authoritarian (to my parents especially) and more emotionally aloof (I swear that the latter's only superficial), the above might fit Moon-Pluto's symbolism too.

Add one more thing on timing: SSR IC is 17°02' Scorpio, so planets transiting farther than your Venus, more in the 17° range, are (at the very least) transiting your SSR angle; but, more subtly, planets at 17° Taurus-Scorpio are in paran with your natal and SSR Venuses.

Okay, keeping that in note alright!
If I'm correct as I reach my next birthday my PSSR Moon will partile square natal Sun at first and then the PSSR Sun. Also important?

So... you're all primed, since your last birthday and until your next, to be utterly in the throes of Venus.

Sigh, why does it have to be throes? If this SSR comes during a different age of my life, things would've been very different, maybe better.
Speaking of it, my next SSR appears worse, with Saturn & Neptune on the angles, and to some extent, Moon! (Regret of being so Venussy in the previous year, and me worrying about it's consequences? I am in the final year of school right now.)
There's also a partile ecliptical Moon-Uranus semisquare, not necessarily bad.

[TheScales_BothWays]

Jim Eshelman on Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:27 am

So... you're all primed, since your last birthday and until your next, to be utterly in the throes of Venus.

Sigh, why does it have to be throes?

1. You're a Libra.
2. You're 16.
3. Neptune is involved.

[TheScales_BothWays]

TheScales_BothWays on Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:31 am

So... you're all primed, since your last birthday and until your next, to be utterly in the throes of Venus.

Sigh, why does it have to be throes?

1. You're a Libra.
2. You're 16.
3. Neptune is involved.

I'm lost for words.
Interesting life being a Neptune angular, ain't it?

[TheScales_BothWays]

TheScales_BothWays on Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:05 pm

So p.Venus is now at my Mean Quotidian Nadir now and I feel the same intensified need for love, the same depression, and what-not other garbage. I seriously thought that it was a one-time show.
But I think it's a bit controllable, like, this morning I was doing something else more important than my current love life and the depressed feelings were gone after a while. But they came back after I took my nap. Sigh.

So since this effect came when p.Venus was already on my MQ Nadir, I'm starting to think that this effect applies when p.Venus is on the Ascendant-family angles.
But this Wednesday p.Venus enters MQ IC and leaves MQ Nadir so if this effect lasts till Thursday then I'll conclude that this effect occurs on any angle. At least for me.

[TheScales_BothWays]

Jim Eshelman on Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:39 pm

You have Neptune opposite your Venus, and Saturn square your Venus - How can you expect anything but hands-wringing pathos and melodrama in Venus matters?

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TheScales_BothWays on Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:48 pm

Yeah it's just that today it seems to be more concentrated and (as what you said) more hands-wringing, similar to what I felt when p.Venus was on my MQ Descendant. But yes, I wholly agree that Saturn-Neptune to my Venus is already more than descriptive.