Arena's SLR & TLR

[Avshalom Binyamin]

I don't know where Arena is or her financial situation, or how long ago your mother's marriage was. But divorce in many countries has changed considerably in the last few decades. Divorce can be so costly, litigious, drawn out, and a waste of money, and many courts have standardized things to make it harder to argue about things.

For example, in Oregon, where I live, child support is a calculator based on your respective incomes. You can't fight in court over how much you'll pay. In many places, cheating is irrelevant to divorce cases. Private investigators and high conflict divorces are a great way to burn up money, and create a terrible coparenting relationship.

There are usually much better ways to make money than going to court.

I had an relatively amicable divorce, settled out of court, between lawyers. Even still it cost me $6,000 in attorney's fees, and several years of work to get the parenting schedule that gave me and my daughter the time we needed together. I had to calculate and take a financial hit and make a lot of sacrifices in my settlement, to avoid going to court, and blowing another $20-30,000, and creating a higher conflict situation.

I'm glad I did it my way, because my daughter got to go through a divorce where neither of her parents was vilified by the other (it's called parental alienation, and the courts are very against it), and gets to see each parent every week, and can text or call the other parent any time. She's thriving, and my finances are getting better after a couple years of sacrifice.

It could have been so much worse. People online are quick to advise actions to escalate conflict, and take sides. But it's not their skin in the game if the escalated conflict burns up all the money and goodwill.

Your first thing to do is to talk to a lawyer. But know that they are glad to bill you as many hours and do as much legal work as you want. The best way to save money is to do your homework, organize your documents, and listen to your lawyer's advice, and make sure you lead the overall mission to de-escalate, and work towards a calm, measured, reasonable settlement.

If anyone else here has been through a divorce with kids in the last decade please chime in.

[Avshalom Binyamin]

I'm suggesting Arena protect herself financially and protect her children from her husband using them as pawns to gain financial advantage in their divorce. Once the divorce has been obtained, custody can be updated to give the children better access to their father.

Arena has shown herself to be more than willing to be fair, and has been dealt with in an underhanded and manipulative manner. We're telling her not to be naive and trusting with someone who has shown he will take advantage.

This is terrible, awful advice. Most courts would punish this behavior strongly.

I think you are speaking from ignorance.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

So you think she should be naive and trusting with a man who has lied to her?

Going to a lawyer would be punished by the courts?

Ari, are you kidding?

[Avshalom Binyamin]

No, not going to a lawyer which she absolutely should do.

Limiting access to the children punatively, which you advise, is terrible advice, bad for the children, and can be used against you in custody battles.

I think you should take it back, and not give advice beyond going to an attorney.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Limiting access to the children punatively, which you advise, is terrible advice, bad for the children, and can be used against you in custody battles.

You missed something a few posts back.
I'm suggesting Arena not take a trip she was planning to take in a few weeks, leaving the children with her husband. Her leaving could be interpreted as abandoning the children and the house.

Nobody has suggested she punish her husband for anything and certainly not that she should limit access to the children, punitively or otherwise. Just that she should not trust her soon-to-be-ex to play fair based on his actions, and she should talk to a lawyer.

[Jim Eshelman]

Having let that last loop close...

I'm concerned that this thread has gotten way off track of its original purpose of Arena discussing her lunar returns and using the space to publically journal about and share her journey. While she seems open to and interested in feedback, and people should feel free to offer her points, I'm uncomfortable with third parties debating each other about her.

I'd rather state this as a concept than lay down rules, and hope all will find their best way to center this back on listening to and occasionally responding to Arena instead of talking about her.

[Veronica]

Arena,

One of the things for me regarding the depressing aspect of Saturns nature was that I was not motivated to act. It was like time stood still and I was held in place unable to move forward. Just completely in a funk.
But ya know
The universe knows what it is doing. You can trust that.
I truely think that if I had not been so depressed about my intepretation of the events.....
I might be in jail.
I have such a rage and a host of other yucky feelings about my relationships that most likely if I did not have the depression I would have truly acted horrible.
I dont know if this is true for you but I hoped to offer my faith that the universe doesnt want you to react instinctually rashly or unskilled and has way of tossing about angles here and there and aspects at just the right time, even though it seems like crap at the moment.
Trust in the process
You are going great places
You are a wonderful mother and your children are so lucky to gave such a strong intelligent brave and compassionate mother who is actively working hard for their best interest.
You have some really nice Jupiter aspects going on. Maybe you could bake some nice shortbread cookies and go on a nice hike in the woods. Snacks and hikes are good way to get more bang for the buck from Jupiter in my opinion. Its the little things like that that actually are the big things.

[Arena]

Thank you all for your concerns fellow forumers and thanks Jim for bringing attention to the purpose of this thread. I will keep my journal of sharing elsewhere and not in this lunar return thread.

[Arena]

So this lunar return is coming to a finish next week. The only way I felt Venus was the love and support I got from my friends in many different countries and the support from my father.

Ended up to be the terrible realisation that there is no way back for this relationship and my family has been broken permanently. So I took the step out of the door this week, moved to a friends house, packed all my things into boxes and left my ex with the children to take care of. Just so you know, I am not doing that to leave my children or because I don't love them. I explained everything to them and told them I love them to bits and I will be back at some point. I am actually still trying to teach him something or giving him a chance to step into his own power and integrity as a real decent man to become a single father. He now has a chance to rise within the chaos he created and reflect and learn from all his horrible mistakes in handling this situation. He does not realise that is my reason for doing this - for now he will just see that I choose to leave the children and put all the workload on him. He might see it in the future when he looks back and I can tell him later when we will be able to be ok with each other and not in the space of anger and resentment.

I've booked the next couple of nights in a Buddhist temple and will spend some time meditating and breathing in nature.

The next lunar return starts on August 22nd and seems to be quite interesting in the sidereal system, but not so good in the tropical system which does seem to depict this situation more accurately for what is happening now.

Aug 22nd SLR; Mars-Venus partile conjunction partile on DSC and Sun also close to DSC. Uranus partile rel. EP. T Jup 2° from rel. DSC.

Aug 22nd TLR: Pluto within 2°above LR ASC

[Arena]

So now my demi lunar has just kicked in.

I have a few minutes, so might as well do a technical work-up for you. Notice that no natal planets are foreground and there are a couple of interesting mundane aspects you probably didn't see - the most interesting of which is the close Neptune-Pluto square, but also Saturn square Neptune. I think a new layer of the emotional reality of the divorce will hit in these two weeks. The non-foreground partile aspects seem very severe (and this is about when Neptune exactly squares your Saturn), but I think they shouldn't be regarded as the "main event" but, rather, as (obvious seeming) backdrop conditions against which the "immediate action" of the play unfolds.

Another thing to notice is that nothing is partile to the angles and there are no partile foreground aspects (unless that Me/Pl midpoint acts as such). This likely means that this isn't a "life-altering" fortnight in the "big bonanza events" since (though, of course, every fortnight is a life-altering fortnight ).

t Mercury on Asc -3°21'
-- t Me/Pl on horizon 0°06'
t Pluto on Dsc +3°08'
t Neptune on MC +4°41'
t Saturn on Dsc +6°39'

-- t Neptune-Pluto sq. 1°33' in mundo
-- t Saturn-Neptune sq. 1°57' in mundo
-- t Saturn-Pluto conj. 3°31' in mundo
-- -- Ne = Sa/Pl 0°13'

Other partile:
t Neptune sq. r Saturn 0°02'
t Saturn sq. r Uranus 0°24'
t Mars conj. r Mars 0°35'
t Mars sq. r Uranus 0°41' in mundo

Actually this demi lunar seems to turn out to be life altering and the Nep-Sat and Sat-Ur seem to turn out to be the main event. So transits are overruling the lunar.

[Jim Eshelman]

Or, rather, partile transits in the lunar are emerging as stronger than other things in the lunar.

[Arena]

Ok, so this new lunar return started yesterday, August 22nd and seems to be quite interesting in the sidereal system, but not so good in the tropical system which does seem to depict this situation more accurately for what is happening now.

Aug 22nd SLR; Mars-Venus partile conjunction partile on DSC(above) and Sun also close to DSC(below).
Uranus partile rel. EP. T Jup 2° from rel. DSC.

Aug 22nd TLR: Pluto within 2° above LR ASC.

I am possibly going to travel to Iceland at the end of this month and that would change the SLR to a worse configuration with Saturn at 4,04° below ASC, but the TLR to a better configuration with Jupiter within 2° from ASC.

Added: My ex has a Moon-Sun partile conjunction in his current SLR with Venus next to it. I think it is symbolic for him forming his new rebound relationship. He will have this Sun-Venus=Mars conjunction in his next SLR from Aug 28th on his n. Venus. I think that is even further symolism of him continuing that relationship. Although that next LR has the ASC on his n. Uranus so maybe there will be some changes made.

[Jim Eshelman]

Here is a full workup:

r Uranus on Dsc -8°12'
t Neptune on Asc -3°03'
t Venus on Dsc -0°22'
t Mars on Dsc -0°19'
t Sun on Dsc +1°36'
r Mars on Dsc +1°49'
t Mercury on Dsc +3°07'
r Sun on Dsc +6°25'
r Mercury on Dsc +9°31'

-- t Venus-Mars conj. 0°03' in mundo
-- t Sun conj. r Mars 0°13' in mundo
-- t Mercury conj. r Mars 1°18' in mundo
-- t Venus conj. r Mars 1°23'
-- t Sun-Mercury conj. 1°30' in mundo
-- t Sun-Mars conj. 1°55' in mundo
-- t Sun-Venus conj. 1°58' in mundo
-- t Mars conj. r Mars 2°08' in mundo
-- t Mercury conj. r Mercury 2°27'
-- t Venus-Neptune op. 2°47' in mundo
-- t Mars-Neptune op. 2°50' in mundo
---------------------------------------------------------
-- r Sun-Mercury 3°06' in mundo
-- r Mercury-Mars conj. 3°18'
-- t Mercury conj. r Sun 3°18' in mundo
-- t Mercury-Mars conj. 3°26' in mundo
-- t Mercury-Venus conj. 3°29' in mundo
-- t Sun-Neptune op. 4°45' in mundo
-- t Sun conj. r Sun 4°49' in mundo
-- t Neptune op. r Mars 4°52' in mundo

Other partile:
t Mars sq. r Neptune 0°15'
t Neptune sq. r Saturn 0°19'

[Jim Eshelman]

I just cleaned this up. I had indeed made a couple of mistakes last night when falling asleep, the biggest being that I wrote natal Neptune where I meant natal Sun. I think it's all fixed now. Citing only the strongest factors, we find:

t Neptune on Asc -3°03'
t Venus on Dsc -0°22'
t Mars on Dsc -0°19'
t Sun on Dsc +1°36'
r Mars on Dsc +1°49'
t Mercury on Dsc +3°07'

-- t Venus-Mars conj. 0°03' in mundo
-- t Sun conj. r Mars 0°13' in mundo
-- t Mercury conj. r Mars 1°18' in mundo
-- t Venus conj. r Mars 1°23'
-- t Sun-Mercury conj. 1°30' in mundo
-- t Sun-Mars conj. 1°55' in mundo
-- t Sun-Venus conj. 1°58' in mundo
-- t Mars conj. r Mars 2°08' in mundo
-- t Mercury conj. r Mercury 2°27'
-- t Venus-Neptune op. 2°47' in mundo
-- t Mars-Neptune op. 2°50' in mundo

Other partile:
t Mars sq. r Neptune 0°15'
t Neptune sq. r Saturn 0°19'

It's a time for passions, raging emotions, strong aggressions and self-assertions with unreasoning (but not necessarily unreasonable) confidence.

[Arena]

Thanks Jim.
Yes it seems like some kind of passion is ignited this month... although maybe not so much since I just booked a flight to Iceland and this LR will only play out in Edinburgh for one week. Iceland will bring Saturn closer to an angle and the partile Mars-Venus out of the foreground.

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes it seems like some kind of passion is ignited this month... although maybe not so much since I just booked a flight to Iceland and this LR will only play out in Edinburgh for one week. Iceland will bring Saturn closer to an angle and the partile Mars-Venus out of the foreground.

I think you will find that where it sets up is the operative chart for the duration, though it will then layer other things on top as you go elsewhere in the world.

Remember that ferocious passion can include jealousy or rage, among other things.

[Arena]

Remember that ferocious passion can include jealousy or rage, among other things.

Yes, I am very aware
So maybe just a good idea to take myself away from my ex.

[Jim Eshelman]

Arena, are you still without SF or a reliable way to calculate mundane angularities? Just in case, here are the foreground and angular planets for Reyk. There are a lot of surprises.

You get the Venus-Mars either way, and is stronger (Class 1) than the Saturn (Class 2) - though Saturn-Pluto, of course, is quite close enough to count. The best feature of the chart is that transiting Venus and natal Jupiter are the most angular planets. The worst feature is that the Saturn-Pluto is in mundane conjunction to natal Moon (but not closely). The most interesting feature is that you get a "discovered" natal Sun-Moon opposition within half a degree. (I don't suppose you have any old flames hanging around, do you?)

t Sun on Dsc -9°41'
r Moon on Asc -8°38'
r Sun on Dsc -8°08'
t Pluto on Asc -6°20'
t Saturn on Asc -4°04'
r Mercury on Dsc -3°51'
t Mars on WP -1°45'
------------------------------
r Jupiter on Asc +0°18'
t Venus on WP +0°45'
t Sun on WP +2°00'
t Mars sq. MC +2°32'

[Arena]

Thank you very much Jim.
Yes I do have SF now and am looking at the charts mundanely as well....but I guess this time I didn't look closely enough. I see it now though that the Venus-Mars and Sun will be on the WP in Rvk. And yes, now I notice also that the LR ASC/DSC lands on n. Jupiter-Venus. So I guess it is a good time to visit back home.

But I don't see any Moon-Sun opposition?
The Moon-Sun opposition though seems a bit harsh and separative rather than a union. I would see the Moon-Sun conjunction more positively as a union. The Moon-Sun square in my ex' current SSR is showing this shift and seems very separative as well. But his tropical SR actually shows Pluto on DSC and Nep on MC which can also be seen to describe the situation.

I don't suppose you have any old flames hanging around, do you?

Hmmm... well I have quite a few lovers in the past - but I don't know much about what they are doing today.

[Jim Eshelman]

But I don't see any Moon-Sun opposition?

It's in the mundane position of your natal planets, and the only way I know to calculate those (at all, and especially adjusted for precession) is with the special spreadsheet we posted here a while back.

In the SLR for Reyk., transiting Sun is 9°41' before (above) Descendant, natal Moon is 8°38' below Asc, and natal Sun is 8°08' above Descendant. That makes a 0 30' opposition of natal Moon and Sun , plus transiting Sun 1 03' from opposite natal Moon and 1 33' from conjunct natal Sun (all mundanely).

Then transiting Pluto is 6°20' before Asc, t Saturn 4°04' below Asc, and natal Mercury 3°51' before Dsc. These create other mundane conjunctions and oppositions of various orbs.

The Moon-Sun opposition though seems a bit harsh and separative rather than a union.

All close Moon-Sun hard aspects in returns have, as one of their strongest probabilities, "formation of [polarized] relationship" or "receiving very special attention from one or many."

[Arena]

Ok, I see what you mean now.
Well, that is interesting indeed.
Let's see what it brings.

[Arena]

My first few days here have been pretty good.
I feel I am connecting more with my oldest son as I am distant from my younger children.

I went to a party and sang for hours on Friday and had a little encounter (no sex though - not ready for that) with a man who is a musician and was playing at the party. Felt strange though, but he also divorced about 7 months ago so he completely understood how I'm feeling. His Sun-Mars wide opposite my Sun and his Moon-Uranus tight opposite my Moon, his Venus opposite my Saturn, so his Venus is on my Rvk Dsc.

[Arena]

Going on a date with him. Just a conscious choice for me to create a bit more distance towards my ex now ... I know I am not ready for anything - but I am simply going to enjoy new company and have a casual beer with him. I don't want a formal date thing, like a dinner or something - just a casual beer and chat.

[Arena]

Turned out to be a lot more than just casual beer and chat
Will probably meet him again tonight.

[Jim Eshelman]

Turned out to be a lot more than just casual beer and chat
Will probably meet him again tonight.

Ahem.

That SLR is pretty interesting, eh?

[Arena]

It is interesting indeed. Even after having just spent limited time with this guy, it feels authentic, we are somehow being very real and open with each other. And he is sooooooo different from my ex.

The speed of recovery from my separation is amazing. I know I might have a backlash when I come back to Edinburgh - but for now it is good.

Notice how t. Jupiter is almost exact on my Rvk DSC.

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes, that Jupiter on the Reyk SLR Desc is a third of a degree. Very healing. Happy for you

[Arena]

The most recent lunar return took place on October 16th in Orihuela, Spain.

It may sound very strange... but I've been so strongly in tune with my intuition lately and in the last couple of days I somehow get the feeling that it is almost psychic... but then again I do not have proof of anything yet - as to whether my intuition is actually right or if it's just my imagination and it's not right, I don't know yet.

I looked at my SLR and it has Mercury as the closest planet to angle, the the EP, 0,02°. Mercury is partile trine Neptune and also opposite the Moon which is within 3° from the WP. Seeing that Neptune connection with Mercury can mean either a heightened sense of consciousness and/or it can also mean some kind of deception. Since it is a trine and sextile it may just mean it is imaginative and romantic (easy going without conflict).

The Sun and Jupiter form a yod towards that Moon, and the Sun and Moon are also in aspect to Pluto.
This is also a mixed message as it can mean both the really happy experiences of a relationship - but the Pluto aspects can either add depth and transformation or separation.

In mundo Uranus is partile the DSC and on the opposite side Venus is 3,24° below ASC (I've had a shopping spree in the last few days ).

So I would say this SLR has Mercury-Moon concurrent angularity - connected to Neptune and then the mundoscope has Uranus-Venus concurrent angularity. We could also combine them all and say that I now have partile concurrent angularity of Mercury and Uranus combined with Moon and Venus which actually sounds like it could be very exciting and a lovely time.

My natal Sun is partile the SLR MC and my natal MC is between that Sat-Pl combo in the sky.

To me this can mean two very different things - either it is about lots of communication, excitement, romance, strong emotional and almost psychic connection with the new love interest ..OR it is about finding out about some kind of deception (Neptune) and parting from that new love (Uranus on DSC and Pluto connection).

On one hand my heart and feelings have been encouraging me to just jump and dive fearlessly and go with the flow into allowing this new thing to develop and unfold ... and on the other hand my heart says to my soul, oh please dear, please protect me from any more hurt.

I have been planning to go and see him by the end of this month or perhaps beginning of Nov.
And of course I take a peak into his chars, solar returns and lunar returns. His current lunar return has Sun-Mars=ASC, but it's not partile. His next SLR takes place on Oct 29th and has a partile Uranus on the ASC, and partile Venus on the DSC and almost partile Sun on the DSC as well. A Mars-Nep opposition slightly further out from the angles. Ecliptically that partile Uranus is opposite the Sun and the partile Venus is partile conjunct the Moon and Mercury. Additionally the t. Neptune is partile his EP and partile square his n. Venus. His n. Uranus is on the SLR DSC and his n. Sun-Mars conjunction is the midpoint between that Sun-Uranus opposition in the SLR and his n. Jupiter is the opposite midpoint. The t. Pluto is coming close to his n. Mercury and the t. Jupiter is close to his n. Neptune.
Well, seems like a very exciting next lunar return for him

The TLR has a different theme in mundo, showing Sun at 1,51° below ASC as the most angular planet and then Pluto just within 3° from the IC.

PS. I might also add that the angular Jupiter in my current SSR comes closer to the DSC here in Spain.

[SteveS]

Main angular themes for your Spain SLR are Moon-Mercury-Venus-Uranus. for planning any activity you so desire as long as you have willing people to participate in your activities.

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes, these pages are turning, from return to return, like the hands on a Swiss clock. It sounds like you have your Solar Fire back but, since it has been so helpful to me in tracking your journey, I'll to a full workup / breakdown of your current SLR, too.

r Mercury on MC -6°57'
t Venus on Asc -3°24'
t Mercury on EP +0°46'
----------------------------
r Sun on MC 0°29'
t Uranus on Dsc 0°54'

t Uranus sq. r Sun 0°25' in mundo
t Venus sq. r Sun 1°57'
t Mercury sq. r Mercury 2°54'
t Venus-Uranus op. 4°18' in mundo

Other partile
t Pluto sq. r Uranus 0°04' in mundo
t Mercury sq. r Mars 0°16' in mundo
t Moon-Mercury 0°23' in mundo


I would say, therefore, that the "outstanding event" premier aspect of this SLR is the half-degree mundane square of transiting Uranus to natal Sun, each being within 1° of the angle; and, supporting it, the Venus-Uranus opposition, both of them aspecting your Sun one way or the other, plus the exactly angular Mercury. It should be a lovely Valencia vacation with the primary focus on discovering yourself truthfully with a focus on freedom of self-expression in every respect, on varied pleasures, and on keen perceptiveness. Here's a trimmed down version of the above breakout, dropping the wider and more peripheral factors (but don;t miss those "extras" under the "Other partile" heading above):

t Venus on Asc -3°24'
t Mercury on EP +0°46'
r Sun on MC 0°29'
t Uranus on Dsc 0°54'

t Uranus sq. r Sun 0°25' in mundo
t Venus sq. r Sun 1°57'
t Mercury sq. r Mercury 2°54'

[Arena]

Thank you both.
I sure hope it will be a good one
I feel so extremely intuitive now. ... and there is a Venus excitement.

PS. I always check tight aspects of the angular planets to see what kind of effect they will have throughout the period, which is why I noted the Neptune and Pluto effect in this SLR.

[Jim Eshelman]

and there is a Venus excitement.

Great Venus-Uranus catch-phrase

[Arena]

Since the natal Sun becomes the midpoint to that Venus-Uranus opposition angular in the SLR, let's see what Ebertin has to say about that:

Venus-Uranus=Sun
Emotional receptivity, intuition through feeling, a nature quickly aroused. - The love-adventures of the male.

I guess we can say the love adventures of the native instead of "the male".

[Arena]

I decided to just dive into the deep end of this Venus excitement and booked a flight to Rvk on Oct 29th. Will be landing there just a couple of hours after his next SLR starts with the Venus excitement as well ... when the Moon in the sky, conjunct Venus and Mercury are all conjunct his natal Moon

I am going to trust that the Universe will make it good for both of us.

[SteveS]

I love your elected time plan Arena! And I am sure you will keep us informed.

[Arena]

OMG we are in Venus wonderland

Another thing to note in transit is that his t. Nep sq his n.Venus, and my solar arc Nep&Moon symbolism on angles makes it feel like a high, a very romantic and exciting one as well as highly intuitive. Almost like a dream you don't want to wake up from.

[SteveS]

very happy for you Arena. And remember Arena, your natal Venus-Jupiter falling on your Edinburgh SSR Horizon, which IMO is the main layer of astrological symbolism explaining what you are experiencing now with your new love.

[Arena]

Thank you Steve.

Yes my natal Venus-Jupiter on the SSR angles is most definitely working as a catalyst for me to open up to and fully enjoy this experience.

[Arena]

A new lunar return is about to take place tomorrow and the sidereal one has Jupiter at 0.12° from the SLR ASC and a Moon-Sun partile opposition ecliptically. SLR Venus is trine n. Sun. There is a Mercury theme as well with t. Mer next to t. Sun and my n. Mer as the midpoint of the Sun-Moon opp. T. Venus is on my Rvk DSC. I am just on my phone now, so I will have a closer look on my computer with SF. But just seeing this made my heart jump. Seems like another VERY good month ahead

Just to add a little to give insights into the current lunar.
It feels like real love, a true connection. I sometimes pinch myself to ask if it's really for real or if I'm just hooked on a feeling

https://youtu.be/NrI-UBIB8Jk

The way he looks at me 🤩

The way he showers me with compliments

The way he turns me on sexually and I him (OMG!)

The immensely deep emotion within me when he embraces me into his tight and strong hug ❤

The way our souls connect on a deep deep level into our cores

The way we seem to be able to just read each other emotionally ❤

The way we are both authentic and sincere with each other

The way he holds my hand while driving and goes through the trouble of stickshifting with his left hand

The way he deeply enjoys our conversations even about the weirdest of things

The way he just gave me a key to his house as soon as I arrived

I am so eternally grateful for this soul entering my life and the healing power that it brings and I just express my true gratitude to him all the time. It truly feels like it is meant to be and was no coincidence at all.

[Jim Eshelman]

This is all so awesome

From your description, it sounds like you're in Reyk. I'll work it up for you.

[SteveS]

Beautiful!

[Jim Eshelman]

There are some surprise mundane aspects!

t Pluto on Asc -8°17'
t Saturn on Asc -6°31'
r Mercury on Dsc -6°08'
r Jupiter on Asc -1°57'
----------------------------------------
t Jupiter on Asc +0°16'
r Venus on Dsc +8°04'
t Venus on Asc +9°07'

-- t Saturn op. r Mercury 0°33' in mundo
-- t Venus op. r Venus 1°03' in mundo
-- t Saturn-Pluto conj. 1°46' in mundo
-- t Pluto op. r Mercury 2°09' in mundo
-- t Jupiter conj. r Jupiter 2°13' in mundo
-- t Jupiter op. r Venus 2°49'
-- r Mercury-Jupiter op. 4°11' in mundo
-- t Saturn op. r Jupiter 4°34' in mundo

Other partile
t Sun op. r Moon 0°10'
t Sun sq. r Mercury 0°10'
t Neptune conj. r Moon 0°27'
t Saturn sq. r Uranus 0°41'


If you strip out all the weaker factors to get a tighter "first impression," here are the core pieces:

r Jupiter on Asc -1°57'
t Jupiter on Asc +0°16'

-- t Saturn op. r Mercury 0°33' in mundo
-- t Venus op. r Venus 1°03' in mundo
-- t Saturn-Pluto conj. 1°46' in mundo
-- t Pluto op. r Mercury 2°09' in mundo
-- t Jupiter conj. r Jupiter 2°13' in mundo
-- t Jupiter op. r Venus 2°49'

t Sun op. r Moon 0°10', t Sun sq. r Mercury 0°10'
t Neptune conj. r Moon 0°27'
t Saturn sq. r Uranus 0°41'

[Arena]

Thank you very much Jim.

Yes the core of it seems to be very very good.
I am enjoying the ride ❤

[Arena]

BTW Jim, why are you not noting the 0,10 partile opposition from Sun to the Moon as one of the main core themes of this LR? I would categorise it as a core theme as well as the partile Jup.

[Jim Eshelman]

BTW Jim, why are you not noting the 0,10 partile opposition from Sun to the Moon as one of the main core themes of this LR? I would categorise it as a core theme as well as the partile Jup.

It's there in the "core" summary. For review, here is the summary:

If you strip out all the weaker factors to get a tighter "first impression," here are the core pieces:

r Jupiter on Asc -1°57'
t Jupiter on Asc +0°16'

-- t Saturn op. r Mercury 0°33' in mundo
-- t Venus op. r Venus 1°03' in mundo
-- t Saturn-Pluto conj. 1°46' in mundo
-- t Pluto op. r Mercury 2°09' in mundo
-- t Jupiter conj. r Jupiter 2°13' in mundo
-- t Jupiter op. r Venus 2°49'

t Sun op. r Moon 0°10', t Sun sq. r Mercury 0°10'
t Neptune conj. r Moon 0°27'
t Saturn sq. r Uranus 0°41'

It's obviously an important aspect - and your report of what's going on in your life discloses that if nothing else. I think you're being confused by the structure of how I laid this out. The three sections are three separate kinds of information: First, a list of foreground planets; second, a list of aspects between foreground planets; third, an add-on of other partile aspects.

Since Moon-Sun isn't foreground, I wouldn't have listed it at all were it not partile - this is a good example of that distinction. Moon opposite Sun is important in exactly the same way as t Sun to r Mercury, t Neptune to r Moon, and t Saturn to r Uranus.

An astronomical curio I didn't mention, but might be interesting to some: Some transiting Moon and natal Moon have different celestial latitude, their mundane positions are not the same. Generally, we regard that "there is no transiting Moon in a Lunar Return" because the exactly conjoined Moons are best treated as natal Moon. That's not true mundanely, though, and your current chart is an extreme example. Transiting Sun is middleground, 7°24' into the 8th house (i.e., 38°24' above Descendant). Transiting Moon (latitude 3S53) is 21°21' into the 2nd house (51°12' below Ascendant), but natal Moon (latitude 4N50), with exactly the same ecliptical longitude, is 15°10' into the 1st house - 15°10' below Asc. The two Moons are 36° apart in the mundoscope. Both, of course, are partile opposite Sun ecliptically. But with natal Moon 15°10' in the 1st house, it is in partile conjunction with transiting Neptune 14°43' in the 1st house, a powerful aspect even though they are two signs apart (64°) in the zodiac.

[Arena]

Thanks again Jim.
I will keep you all posted on how this month turns out.

I believe the Venus-Neptune square is also important since both planets are very close to my local angles, Venus to local DSC and Nep to local EP. "High on love" theme ... which he also will have in his next LR from Nov 26th: Nep on the LR ASC and his n. Venus on the LR MC.

BTW, I am already seeing a very Jupiterian theme manifesting since my birthday, my father helping me financially and other people offering me a place to stay. Right now I got a huge house and a car to myself while taking care of my friend's dog while they are abroad. A similar thing will happen during Christmas when I will have another house to myself and take care of a cat while my friends stay abroad.

[SteveS]

[Arena]

Update. Yes we are most definitely high on love
Somehow this period in my life is just all about a new love and I am totally embracing it.
I just know that this is becoming a relationship, it's not just a fling.

I am simply staying at his place all the time. He made room in his wardrobe for me and asked me to unpack my suitcase. The magnetic pull between us is very strong and mutual and we lovingly admit it and surrender to it. He is now asking me to stay even though his teenage son is coming to stay with him this week. And even though we haven't said in words "I love you", I know that my heart is his and his heart is mine now.

[SteveS]

Arena wrote:

I just know that this is becoming a relationship, it's not just a fling.

The last Venus-Jupiter SSR (Venus-Jupiter Paran cnj) female my eyes witness she fell madly in love with her new mate and they married. Makes me wonder if your Natal Venus 180 Jupiter falling on your Edinburgh SSR Horizon will produce another marriage since you and your new mate appears to have already fallen madly in love. Wishing you much happiness.

Kelly's 2017 SSR:
https://imgur.com/iB37m3H

[Arena]

Sounds gorgeous Steve and thank you so very much
When I relocate the SSR to Rvk, my natal Venus-Jup is still very close to the SSR angle and the t. Jupiter is 1,35° from the local DSC.

I made a very conscious decision to knock down all my defences and instead of shutting down as my first reaction was in September, I decided to embrace this new love and I know he's doing the same.

About the Ven-Jup theme, he also has his own pattern for this SSR. The SSR almost partile conj of Ven-Jup is partile conj his n. Venus and local MC. His natal Sun-Mars in opposition to n.Jup falls on his SSR angle this year. His progressed SSR Moon was partile square that Ven-Jup when we met.