Jannis Jopiln

[Soft Alpaca]

Born:Tuesday, January 19, 1943, 9:45 AM - Port Arthur (TX) (United States).

While I think her chart is cool on am aesthetic level (down to the Indigo-Orange-Blue and sea green haze that matches her perfectly) I realized her chart is a super statistic supporter.

With evidence of addiction in her Mercury in Mars sign, her music orientation in Gemini-Capricorn, with hints (I believe) at the Moricand pattern: that Neptune though... Down to the chains of Saturn-Uranus shakle-unshakle themes she was truly ahead of her time (arguably timeless).

I'm curious though if we can rectify a time (as I believe that 9:45 is too even if a number to be exact).

Though it's relatively unimportant to all of this my favorite Janis song (though not her own in origin) is the 1969 Woodstock version of Summertime...

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

I'm curious though if we can rectify a time (as I believe that 9:45 is too even if a number to be exact).

I believe you haven't thought it through. Every hour, there are 60 minutes, and out of those 60, 12 are either 0' or 5'. 12/60 = .2 or 20%. There's a one in four chance of a birth time correctly ending in either 0 or 5. That's no reason to futz with rectification, especially if you think the time is less than 4 minutes off, between 9:40 and 9:50.

Though it's relatively unimportant to all of this my favorite Janis song (though not her own in origin) is the 1969 Woodstock version of Summertime...

She made it her own. Very much her own. It was written by George Gershwin for his opera Porgy and Bess first sung in 1935.

[Jim Eshelman]

With evidence of addiction in her Mercury in Mars sign

Despite Mars' exaltation in Capricorn, this wasn't part of the statistical findings. It was Mercury in Aries or Scorpio (and Mars in Gemini or Virgo) that were statistically significant in the Bradley study.

But I agree with all your other comments on her chart. It's quite an extraordinary one. It's also quite unusual for having six retrograde planets: She and Angela Davis were born on two of the few days in the 20th century that had so many at once.

I'm curious though if we can rectify a time (as I believe that 9:45 is too even if a number to be exact).

One person in 12 was born at an even five-minute interval after the hour (and one-fourth of all people were born within one minute, plus or minus, of a five-minute interval).

There is, however, one piece of information that suggests an even more rounded-off birthtime: that she Sidereal Astrology born at 9:30 instead of 9:45. The birth certificate states 9:45 but hand-written records at the hospital say 9:30.

One great event to test this by is her death which occurred in the early hours of October 4, 1970, in Hollywood, CA. One source says 1:40 AM and I have no idea if that's right or on what it's based, but it's close enough for current purposes.

For the 9:45 birth time, her final Sidereal Solar Return had Moon near-partile opposite natal Mars across the horizon squared by a Mars=Pluto opposition:

0°52' Sag - r Mars
1°30 Sag - s Asc
1°42' Pis - s Mars
1°58' Gem - s Moon
2°57' Vir - s Pluto

Her final Sidereal Lunar Return could either be taken as a clue that the birth time should be six minutes earlier - since transiting Saturn squared MC 1°36' - or as exactly right, since the Saturn was close enough, Neptune was 0°33' from WP, and a Mercury-Mars conjunction squared Asc.

Quotidians are much more sensitive to exact birth times than return chart angles. Her Sidereal Natal Quotidian has MC 26°31' Cancer square transiting Saturn. Her Solar Quotidian had Asc 3°26', less than a degree past a Mars-Pluto opposition in her SSR. Her PSSR (mean rate) had Asc 27°20' Libra opposition transiting Saturn within 0°11'. PSSR MC 5°40' Leo squared SSR Neptune within 0°25'.

I'm inclined to take her 9:45 birth time as given.

[Soft Alpaca]

I like to disrupt things I think that's quite obvious, I ask questions dispite statics because if we didn't how would we get them in the first place. I don't think ratios have much to do with anything either way 2/5 is definitely not the same as 3/5ths.

I think Jannis adds to the stats that Mercury in Capricorn could be associated with addiction and in many moons it may be your satstics that are used Jim who knows.

Jannis is huge in my life my mom sang her version of bobby mcgee to me and her mom to her, and here we are both me and my mother named after marijuana (mom and grandma are both scorpio moons and my mom's Mars in Virgo is addiction heavy where her mom who has sun in Virgo had no such issues).

Unfortunately jannis had the sagittarius motif of sharpness in her life and hers came in the form of needle.

[Jim Eshelman]

I think Jannis adds to the stats that Mercury in Capricorn could be associated with addiction and in many moons it may be your satstics that are used Jim who knows.

That still doesn't make Mercury in Capricorn typical for addiction. Besides, she doesn't need it, considering she has a Mercury-Mars aspect within a few minutes of exact.

Jannis is huge in my life my mom sang her version of bobby mcgee to me and her mom to her, and here we are both me and my mother named after marijuana (mom and grandma are both scorpio moons and my mom's Mars in Virgo is addiction heavy where her mom who has sun in Virgo had no such issues).

Yes, Janis was a gigantic deal to those of us who knew her work before she died. I actually wrote the treatment of a primetime TV show based on "Me & Bobby McGee" and walked it around the studios for a while. It might have flown but we couldn't get a couple of the rights holders to sign on.