Hannah wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:03 pm
I appreciate the neutral traits.. perhaps it is my perception that is painting the illusion of valuation in particular traits in signs over others.
Ironically, to the extent I've succeeded in treating the majority of characteristics neutrally, this means that the traits in question are the ones that
you value most - otherwise, you wouldn't usually see them as positive value. Leo does tend to naturally manifest traits that have high social value and respect (although that fact, by itself, is neither positive nor negative).
Or there is the societal valuation. Such phrases as "instinctive leadership" tend to have very high social value, whereas all it really means is that, without necessarily thinking about it or planning it, they start setting the agenda, walking in front, etc. (It, of course, also means all those things that are unambiguously positive. But the fact that someone starts leading is never a guarantee that they will be a
good leader.) Even "gregarious" is negative if you don't want someone around, "lusty and forthright" is negative if you don't want to have sex with them, "longer lifespan" is negative if you really wish they'd just die!
OTOH, those of us with Aquarian luminaries tend to naturally express a lot of traits that society as a whole does NOT like. I'd like to think that these, too, are really neither good nor bad - just things that other people usually don't like. Society needs
both people who embody and see themselves at the center of its most valued expressions and people who embody and see themselves at the center of its least valued. (Pre-Uranus, and in India to this day, Aquarius is identified with the "untouchables" - which, nonetheless, are a specific necessary part of their social structure, just as scavengers are needed in nature.)
I'll have to look into that more deeply. I definitely value Lunar and Venusian traits very highly, sometimes wishing I was born under their influence instead of Saturn and Mars.. perhaps a product of longing to fit into the feminine niche I have a hard time fitting into.
Sagittarian roles
. And, you do have a Scorpio Moon. "Fundamentally Sagittarian, but with a Scorpio style," as I've started phrasing it.
I think Rim Moon people help balance out my desire to sit around thinking either about the principle of the thing or the various possibilities that may come out of the principle.. I spend more time focused on mine and other's actions while with Rims.
Perhaps... and I also have noticed in you a streak of really wanting to break out and
get in trouble more. That's something Rim Moons are best at: Getting in trouble (with themselves, with others, with society). In any case, not a bad balance for a Spoke-Hub to assimilate.
I am not the biggest fan of other people claiming to know me before even giving me the chance to express myself.
I understand that can be off-putting. Nonetheless, the world has a certain number of people with a native and/or trained capacity to do exactly that. (I don't mean to say that all such people are always right. It doesn't work that way.) - Also, I find that last phrase interesting: You
do express yourself from the moment an eye lands on you. (I mean this about everybody, not just you.) You don't have to say anything ordo anything in particular: Your presentation, your body language, and all sorts of subtleties communicate some mixture of who you are innately and how you have forged your socially-expressed identity. Given the fairly low percentage of people who really understand themselves, it's not surprising that people with a natural gift or special training can know most people faster and deeper than they know themselves.
But, I don't make it particularly easy, I classically take a ridiculously long time to open up entirely.
Yes. First time I saw you perform was a revelation, since you had kept that entire side tucked away where I hadn't noticed it. That's at least partly the Scorpio Moon.
There is a pattern that seems to affect people negatively, seen in the fact that both people have slowly become more alone and isolated due to burnt bridges.
Then again, Aquarian Moons
usually draw negative responses from people. Even when admired and valued, people don't necessarily like them. Their job, to some extent, is to upset people and especially to stand against automatic alignment with social consent or herd mind. Coming from a starting point of, "If most people think it's true or value it, then it's probably {bs}" and thinking "popular" is an insulting, negative trait are not the fastest ways to make friends.
Scorpio Moons have their own bears to cross. I think they value social connection more than Aquarius, so they instinctively withhold more until they've navigated social connection some other way.
