Feb 7 2021 Scheduled Date of Super Bowl

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:12 am

Based on Jim's Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) teachings with his analysis of 50 Super Bowls, along with my personal SMA understandings, I predict the Green Bay Packers will win the Feb 7 2021 Super Bowl--as long as Covid does not cancel/postpone this Super Bowl. There is outstanding wining symbolism for Green Bay Wisconsin 2021 Capsolar and its Feb 7 2021 CapQ chart. I will offer details later if game is played on Feb 7th.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:32 am

When will we know the teams for sure?

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:52 am

We will not know for sure the two teams in the Super Bowl until after the NFC & AFC Championship games Sunday Jan 24th. Vegas has Kansas City (AFC) and Green Bay (NFC) the two favorites to win the Super Bowl.

parsfortuna · Post by **parsfortuna** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:26 pm

Hi SteveS,

Thanks for continuing to provide notes on this!

I know it's all moot until the Super Bowl matchup is set, but it's still fun to predict

I'm less bullish on Green Bay than you are.
I do see the nice angular Jupiter on the GB CapSolar for sure.

However a couple warning flags for me on them are:

1) Green Bay CapSolar has stationary Uranus dead square the Asc. That is typically not what I find for winning success.

2) Feb 07 transits to the GreenBay progressed CapSolar has Mars exactly on the MC. Page 07 of 50 Super Bowls notes "MARS, surprisingly, is a malefic
for this purpose. Mars transiting solar ingress angle especially marks a losing team when it occurs." However, should GB play a team with worse
symbolism in the Super Bowl, they may indeed prevail!

You are definitely much more experienced than I with these. In the notes I wrote back in September on a handful of teams (see the 2020-2021 NFL thread), I listed KC and Baltimore as Super Bowl losers (should they reach it). Look forward to joining you in the chart hunt as the playoffs whittle down to fewer teams!

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:04 pm

parsfortuna wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:26 pm 1) Green Bay CapSolar has stationary Uranus dead square the Asc. That is typically not what I find for winning success.

Statistically, based on past Super Bowls, Uranus angular is irrelevant to winning or losing except (anecdotally observed) it seems to show a lot of turn-overs in the course of the game. If Uranus and Pluto are prominent together it tends to show overthrowing the odds, i.e., the underdog winning (whichever team that tends to be). Certainly one could expect surprises.

In this case, though, the exactly angular Uranus is stationary and part of a partile Jupiter-Uranus square. That's typical for extraordinary "blow you away" good luck.

2) Feb 07 transits to the GreenBay progressed CapSolar has Mars exactly on the MC. Page 07 of 50 Super Bowls notes "MARS, surprisingly, is a malefic for this purpose. Mars transiting solar ingress angle especially marks a losing team when it occurs." However, should GB play a team with worse symbolism in the Super Bowl, they may indeed prevail!

Fair observation. And the Mars is quite strong. - But, again, aspects take hold: Transiting Mars is the degree of CapQ MC while transiting Jupiter is the degree of CapQ Westpoint. To make this clear another way (since both MC/IC and EP/WP are right ascension based angles), that night Mars and Jupiter will be within 1° of exact square in RA. This aspect shows in instances of "physical & competitive excellence" and tends to be a winner. - That's aside from the simpler statistical fact that, in the absence of an angular Saturn, Jupiter wins the game.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:46 am

Parsfortuna wrote:

I know it's all moot until the Super Bowl match-up is set, but it's still fun to predict

Indeed! Studying & understanding the finer details of Jim’s 50 Super Bowl Report has been one of the greatest astrological pleasures in my life from a recreational standpoint. His 50 Super Bowl Report reads like a fine Novel to me filled with important details, it’s pure entertainment for me and packed with Sidereal Mundane Astrology knowledge. I have always greatly enjoyed challenges in my life, and beating Vegas on a Recreational level is great fun for me.

Parsfortuna, pay very close attention to what Jim wrote in response to your ‘red flag’ words pertaining to your interpretations. Even before Jim wrote his 50 Super Bowl Report, Jim taught me the importance of angular partile aspects in any chart setting-up ‘outstanding incidents’ depending on the nature of the aspect. For what it’s worth, I always mainly analyze major championship games from the standpoint of the fans in the cities involved in a championship game---not from the events which may or not happen in the game itself. What we are truly measuring with Sidereal Mundane Astrology for championship games is the REACTION of mass psychology from a large fan base in a given city. There is tremendous pent-up/fever pitch mass psychology for championship games for fans in the cities involved—allegorically speaking, it’s a live or die situation pertaining to a major mundane event for the cities involved, and championship games for one city does not happen often. A Championship game is a major life event for the fans, something a fan waits for all their life---sometimes never happening. From a Sidereal Mundane Astrology standpoint a championship game is one of the few major mundane events we know will happen on a set date which is very cool because in most cases with Sidereal Mundane Astrology we never know when a major mundane event will happen.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:12 am

Of the NFL teams remaining for the playoffs, here are the Vegas betting odds for one of these teams winning the Super Bowl:

Kansas City +190
Green Bay +475
Buffalo +700
New Orleans +775
Tampa Bay +1000
Baltimore +1100
Seattle +1200
Pittsburgh +2200
Tennessee Titans +2500
LA Rams +2800
Indianapolis +3300
Cleveland +4000
Chicago +6000
Washington +8000

I have wagered 50$ on Green Bay +475 to win Super Bowl for a possible 240 $ win.

parsfortuna · Post by **parsfortuna** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:49 pm

Thank you both for the informative insights and details.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:19 am

Parsfortuna wrote:

Green Bay CapSolar has stationary Uranus dead square the Asc. That is typically not what I find for winning success.

Parsfortuna, Jim has already pointed out why this stationary Uranus is a benefic in the Capsolar because it is partile 90 Jupiter partile conjunct Capsolar Dsc. But I want to offer some words by another great Sidereal Astrologer, Donald Bradley who wrote about Uranus as a stand alone planetary influence:

Students usually have a difficult time accepting the truth that Uranus is benefic in action and purpose...

Parsfortuna, as long as Uranus is not aspected to a malefic, I always interpret a standalone Uranus as pure adrenaline excitement for the avid sports fan, and benefic in action. This may or may not always mean a team wins the game for its city's fans, but it does indicate the game will at least with high % be a close game with its final score.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:07 pm

Parsfortuna, for your interest:
Last night a very surprising/unexpected event happened in the NFL which filled the fans hearts of Cleveland Ohio with joy/happiness with tremendous excitement. The Cleveland Browns won a Playoff game vs Pittsburgh. Of all the fans in the NFL, psychologically Cleveland fans were the most desperate to experience a win in a playoff game. They had not won since 2002 and were 0-11 playing at Pittsburgh in their last 11 games at Pitt before last night’s victory. Pitt committed 4 turnovers in the first quarter and Cleveland led 28-0 at the end of the first quarter. This unexpected Uranus event was perfectly predicted by a transiting Sun (MC) Uranus Paran (ASC) on Cleveland's CapQ angles, and a partile conjunction of Mercury-Jupiter sitting on Cleveland’s CapQ Zenith. Cleveland was a 6 point underdog.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:11 pm

Cool how this works, eh?

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:43 pm

Jim, it is the coolest

mundane thing I have ever discovered in my life pertaining to psychological content for a given location with major events, thank you so much for teaching me Sidereal Mundane Astrology. I never will forget when Matthew told me about Sidereal Mundane Astrology and its sleeper importance for the world of mundane astrology. And thank you again for your forum.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:37 am

8 teams left in the NFL Playoffs. Vegas odds for winning the Super Bowl:

Baltimore Ravens +700
Buffalo Bills + 450
Cleveland Browns +2500
Green Bay +450
Kansas City Chiefs +200
LA Rams +1600
New Orleans Saints +600
Tampa Bay Bucs +650

parsfortuna · Post by **parsfortuna** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:30 pm

Looking good Steve.

Tampa has a terrible Sat smack dab on the Descendant Capsolar along with a Mars square Asc, and progression just makes it worse, vs Green Bay in the NFC Champ Game.

KC I've previously reviewed and looks weak, should they beat Buffalo. Buffalo's chart setup looks half decent.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:49 pm

Thanks Parsfortuna. I am pressed for time today, doing celebration type stuff for my 50 wedding anniversary week. I will get back with you later on the games this weekend. Did you note the superb CapQ charts for the Tampa win vs New Orleans last night?

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 am

Jim, if you have time, check and see if my SMA outcome judgement analysis on these 2 games agrees with your SMA analysis.

My SMA prediction for this Sunday's 2 games: Green Bay wins vs Tampa & Kansas City wins vs Buffalo.

4 NFL teams left battling for a Super Bowl Championship. Match-ups this Sunday Jan 24:
Tampa Bay Bucs vs Green Bay (NFC Championship); app end of game 6:30 PM EST for Tampa and 5:30 PM CST for Green Bay.

Vegas odds: Green Bay a 4 point favorite and a -190 Money Line. To win 100 $ on Green Bay’s Money Line a risk of 190 $ Bet must be risked. To bet Green Bay’s straight line of -4 means Green Bay must win by more than 4 points to win. A Green Bay win of 4 points breaks a wager even. A Green Bay win of 1, 2, or 3 points loses a straight line of -4 on Green Bay.

Buffalo Bills NY vs Kansas City Missouri (AFC Championship); app end of game 9:30 PM EST in Buffalo; 8:30 PM CST Kansas City.

Vegas odds: Kansas City a 3 point favorite and a -145 Money Line.

Here are Vegas Money Lines for these 4 teams to win the Super Bowl played Feb 7, app end of game 10:00 PM CST:
Kansas City +200
Green Bay +200
Buffalo +350
Tampa +375

IMO, according to SMA analysis and Vegas odds on winning the Super Bowl, the two teams who will play for the Super Bowl will be Kansas City and Green Bay. When there were 16 teams qualified for the NFL Playoffs for winning the Super Bowl, I predicted and bet Green Bay to win without knowing who Green Bay would be playing. If Green Bay plays Kansas City for the Super Bowl championship, I will probably hedge my bet so no matter the outcome of the Super Bowl game with Green Bay, I win $.

Sidereal Mundane Astrology according to Jim’s 50 historical Super Bowl Report favors Green Bay winning and highly predicts Tampa loosing.

Tampa’s 2021 Capsolar (Master Chart of the Year) features:
Eclipto & Mundo Saturn partile conjunct DSC, with a partile eclipto 90 with Mars. This alone predicts with high degree of probability Tampa loses their game vs Green Bay. Plus: Tampa’s CapQ (Daily Chart) features Tampa’s CapQ Saturn partile conjunct Tampa’s CapQ West Point in R.A. This is a strong double whammy of Saturn for Tampa losing its game vs Green Bay, and Jim’s 50 Super Bowl analysis clearly says to always first look for angular Saturn to predict a losing team rather than predict Jupiter for winning a game. But even better, when see winning symbolism and losing symbolism for the opposing teams. Green Bay has Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct it’s Capsolar DSC, both eclipto and mundo.

Green Bay wins vs Tampa! But, by how many points we don’t know. I will bet 100 $ on Green Bay’s Money Line -195 to will 50 $. All Green Bay has to do is win the game no matter by how many points.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:25 am

I favor Kansas City’s Jan 24th CapQ with Jupiter partile conjunct KC’s DSC partile 90 CapQ Uranus partile conjunct CapQ Zenith as the “Thank You Lord” aspect. Also transiting Sun-Jupiter tightly conjunct KC CapQ DSC. Also transiting Venus partile conjunct KC CapQ West Point. A highly benefic CapQ for KC!

VS Buffalo’s Capsolar mundo angular Mars (MC) partile 90 Capsolar Saturn with Capsolar Saturn 2,14 Square Capsolar MC.

I will wager 50 $ on KC -3, meaning KC will have to win by 3 or more points for me to break even or win this bet.

KC wins vs Buffalo.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am

Green Bay, WI vs. Tampa, FL: January 24, 2021, 5:30 PM CST, Green Bay, WI
Green Bay a 4 point favorite and a -190 Money Line.

Year Chart
WI: Mercury Jupiter Uranus (Moon Mars). Uranus sq. Asc 0°02', Jupiter on IC 0°56', Saturn on Dsc 3°25'. Mercury-Jupiter, Mars-Jupiter, Mars-Saturn, Mars-Uranus, Jupiter-Saturn, Jupiter-Uranus.
FL: Sun Mars Jupiter Saturn Pluto (Mercury Uranus). Mars sq. Asc 0°06'. Saturn on Dsc 0°36'. Jupiter on Dsc 2°19'. Sun-Pluto, Mercury-Mars-Uranus, Mars-Saturn Jupiter-Saturn, Jupiter-Uranus.
Conclusion: Favors Green Bay. This is harder than it looks: Both teams have Jupiter AND Saturn foreground, meaning both have both Mars-Saturn and Jupiter-Uranus foreground. "Which is closer" isn't always the distinguisher. Nonetheless, I take this as favoring Green Bay over Tampa because the Saturn is SO close in one case and the Jupiter SO close in the other. Despite some redeeming features, Tampa's Capsolar completely blows them away, it seems, though one can't completely discount the angular Jupiter. With such things as Mars-Jupiter foreground in both charts, one would expect this to be a really excellent match to watch.

Quotidian
WI: MC sq. s Saturn 1°28'.
FL: MC conj. t Mars 1°18', s Uranus 0°49', sq. t Jupiter 0°51', s Jupiter 1°31'. p Asc op. s Mercury 1°39'. p EP op. s Saturn 0°27'.
Conclusion: Slightly favors Tampa. Both teams have a Saturn. It's ALL that Green Bay has - and Tampa has it closer. This tend to cancel each other out. But Tampa has a partile angular Jupiter as part of a Jupiter-Uranus square. I wouldn't want to call it from this chart for either team, but this one chart does slightly favor Tampa.

Transits
WI: t Uranus sq. s Asc 0°44'. t Jupiter op. s Asc 1°42'. t Sun op. s Asc 1°29'. t Venus sq. s MC 0°55'.
FL: t Pluto op. s EP 1°51', t Saturn op. s Asc 0°44', t Sun op. s Asc 1°30' (Su-Sa 0°46'). t Saturn sq. s Mars 22'.
Conclusion: Tampa loses. Also, Green Bay wins.

CONCLUSION
Too close a call to bet but, in the end, I do think Green Bay wins. (Were I to go only on the CapQ, I'd call it for Tampa, and there are some indications of surprising the odds-makers. The Capsolar is such a strong indicator, though - people in Wisconsin will be much happier than people in Florida that day so, if it centers on the game, Green Bay wins. Possibly the negatives and surprises are that they don't win by 4.)

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am

Kansas City, MO vs. Buffalo, NY: January 24, 2021, 8:30 PM CST, Kansas City, MO
Kansas City a 3 point favorite and a -145 Money Line.

Year Chart
MO: Venus (Moon Neptune). Capsolar dormant. Cansolar leads with Venus 1°53' from IC.
NY: Moon Sun Mars (Mercury Jupiter Saturn Uranus Pluto). Sun-Pluto 23', Mars-Saturn 34', Jupiter-Uranus 42', Moon-Mars 0°23' mundo
Conclusion: Inconclusive. (I must have made a math error first time - I got a completely different "winning one for the record books" Capsolar for KC but, on re-examining, got a completely different (dormant) chart.)

Quotidian
MO: p MC sq. s Sun 0°02', t Pluto 0°01'. p EP op. t Venus 0°48'. p Asc sq. t Uranus 0°08' stationary, op. s Jupiter 0°37', op. t Jupiter 1°46', op. t Sun 1°19'. (t Sun = s Jupiter 42'.)
NY: p MC sq. s Mercury 0°30'. p EP op. t Saturn 2°00', t Sun 1°12', s Jupiter 0°21'.
Conclusion: Leans KC. I'm not sure the Saturn counts for Buffalo (being exactly 2°00', the usual edge of operability). Both teams have partile Jupiter. KC has more of it, though: People in KC look like they're happy and celebrating, people in Buffalo look like they're reviewing plays and scratching their heads (but had a good enough day).

Transits
MO: No transits to Capsolar or Cansolar angles.
NY: t Pluto op. s EP 1°44'
Conclusion: No conclusion from this.

CONCLUSION
KC wins. (People are happy in Kansas City.)

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:18 am

Presuming Green Bay and Kansas City win this weekend, how does the Super Bowl go? (The following is withdrawn if that's not the outcome of this weekend's games.)

Green Bay, WI vs. Kansas City, MO
February 7, 2021, 10:00 PM EST, Tampa, FL

Year Chart
WI: Mercury Jupiter Uranus (Moon Mars Saturn). Uranus sq. Asc 0°02', Jupiter on IC 0°56', Saturn on Dsc 3°25'. Mercury-Jupiter, Mars-Jupiter, Mars-Saturn, Mars-Uranus, Jupiter-Saturn, Jupiter-Uranus.
MO: Venus (Moon Neptune). Capsolar dormant. Cansolar leads with Venus 1°53' from IC.
Conclusion: Favors Green Bay. These cities are at similar longitudes. People look happy enough in KC, but there isn't an outright "win" maker. This one isn't slam-dunk, though, because GB also has a foreground Saturn, but it still favors GB. (NOTE: I originally got an entirely different chart for KC which must have been an error. On rechecking, I get a dormant Capsolar.)

Quotidian
WI: p MC conj. t Mars 0°17'. p EP op. t Jupiter 43', s Mercury 09'.
MO: p MC sq. t Venus 1°16', sq. s Mercury 1°07'. p Asc op. p Moon 0°41', op. s Moon, op. t Sun 1°54'.
Conclusion: Green Bay wins unless there are other decisive signs of losing.

Transits
WI: t Uranus sq. s Asc 0°17', t Saturn op. s Asc 0°35', t Venus op. s Asc 0°30'. t Saturn conj. s Jupiter 0°05'.
MO: No transits to Capsolar or Cansolar angles.
Conclusion: Green Bay loses.

CONCLUSION
Green Bay loses. The one decisive losing indicator in all these charts is transiting Saturn crossing Green Bay's Capsolar Descendant (and simultaneously conjoining its angular Jupiter). Since Green Bay loses, then the CapQ suggestion that Green Bay wins is wrong. (Picking losers trumps picking winners.)

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:01 am

Steve, feel free to check my math on this. I kept getting results that changed out from under me, so must have been doing something wrong. So, after finishing and rechecking, I believe the above is correct.

SteveS wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 am My SMA prediction for this Sunday's 2 games: Green Bay wins vs Tampa & Kansas City wins vs Buffalo.

I agree, but am less confident of GB than you are. The CapQ actually favors Tampa, but transits to the Capsolar seem mostly lay that to rest. Maybe they don't make the spread?

When there were 16 teams qualified for the NFL Playoffs for winning the Super Bowl, I predicted and bet Green Bay to win without knowing who Green Bay would be playing. If Green Bay plays Kansas City for the Super Bowl championship, I will probably hedge my bet so no matter the outcome of the Super Bowl game with Green Bay, I win $.

Yes, cover this one. It looks like GB loses the Super Bowl with transiting Saturn exactly conjoining Capsolar Descendant.

Plus: Tampa’s CapQ (Daily Chart) features Tampa’s CapQ Saturn partile conjunct Tampa’s CapQ West Point in R.A.

This one alone isn't good enough since Green Bay also has CapQ MC square Saturn even closer. (The Tampa contact isn't partile unless I made a math error, I get 1°41' in RA.) The CapQ is a draw. But, as you mentioned, Tampa's Capsolar alone probably indicates their loss. Then transiting Saturn also crosses the Tampa Capsolar Descendant (partile) for the game.

But even better, when see winning symbolism and losing symbolism for the opposing teams. Green Bay has Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct it’s Capsolar DSC...

Weakening this a bit is that Green Bay also has a foreground Saturn, though wider. By itself, I'm not sure whether Saturn or Jupiter would win this one; but Tampa looks much worse, so I agree with your conclusion.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:37 am

Thanks Jim, I always learn more with your analysis.

Jim wrote:

(The Tampa contact isn't partile unless I made a math error, I get 1°41' in RA.)

I am confused over this one. I show Tampa R.A. Saturn 305.39 with SF, and Tampa R.A. West Point 305.12. Doesn't this mean Tampa's CapQ Saturn is partile conjunct Tampa's CapQ West Point?

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:38 am

SteveS wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:37 am
Jim wrote:(The Tampa contact isn't partile unless I made a math error, I get 1°41' in RA.)
I am confused over this one. I show Tampa R.A. Saturn 305.39 with SF, and Tampa R.A. West Point 305.12. Doesn't this mean Tampa's CapQ Saturn is partile conjunct Tampa's CapQ West Point?

Well, I did say you should check my math. It might have been my mistake. Let's walk it back.

Event: January 24, 2021, 6:30 PM, Tampa, FL

CapQ EP is 7°15' Cancer with RA 125°12'
CapQ Saturn RA 305°39'

You are exactly right.

I keep making mistakes this morning. I wrote a whole answer to you, calculated from scratch, and got a THIRD (different answer). But, checking one more time, you're exactly right.

Also, that's the ONLY angularity I got wrong on that quotidian. All the others are right. So I had the right chart all three times.

Ah, found it. The event chart and the CapQ have nearly identical angles. I was taking transiting Saturn to transiting WP, not CapQ Saturn to CapQ EP. So very close but not the same. OK, no real change in my conclusion. In the CapQ, both teams have angular Saturn, the closer orb in Tampa might make it a bigger deal but then there are the angular Jupiters. I'm not sure the CapQ can be used to give it to other team. This doesn't affect the final conclusion.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:01 am

Thanks Jim.

parsfortuna · Post by **parsfortuna** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:40 pm

What is the qualification for a dormant CapSolar, I'm unclear. No planet within 5 degrees of angles?
Kansas City's CapSolar has Sat 5 degrees past descendant = that doesn't count?

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:47 pm

parsfortuna wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:40 pm What is the qualification for a dormant CapSolar, I'm unclear. No planet within 5 degrees of angles?
Kansas City's CapSolar has Sat 5 degrees past descendant = that doesn't count?

No planet within 3° of a major angle or 2° of a minor angle. Charts without angularities that close (which already identify a large radius of over 150 miles from a spot) demonstrably have no event impact distinctive to the location.

See my free book Sidereal Mundane Astrology, Chapter 2, page 10 for a lengthier discussion.

parsfortuna · Post by **parsfortuna** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:50 pm

Got it, foreground

. Thank you.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:00 am

We have a unique situation with the NFL Championship this Sunday with me having AA rated birth times for both Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady, the starting Quarterbacks. Brady has won 6 Super Bowls and Rogers 1. Since both of these QB’s were born in California, I have copies of their Birth Certificates.

Tom Brady: 8/3/1977; 11:48 AM PDT; San Maleo, California; 37N33’47” 122W19’28”
Aaron Rogers: 12/2/1983; 2:50 PM PST; Oroville, California; 39N30’50” 121W33’19”

Since both of their last birthdays occurred during the week there is high probability their Solar Returns set-up in the locations of their practice facilities, Green Bay & Tampa.

I note with Aaron Rogers Green Bay current SSR: SSR Venus and SSR Uranus dominate as the main angular themes for his current SSR. ***Also note: On NFC Championship game day Jan 24, Rogers has a very rare transiting Paran of Venus-Uranus to his Natal MC & ASC. Using Donald Bradley’s words for Venus-Uranus combos:

This aspect conduces toward popularity, excitement, and emotional thrills.

We have discussed Uranus on angles recently creating much “excitement” as long as Uranus is not tied into a malefic. We can clearly see the “excitement” of transiting Uranus sitting partile on Rogers Natal ASC by playing in a NFL Championship and more than likely playing in a Super Bowl with a win this Sunday. Very high % Green Bay wins the NFC Championship, particularly combined with Jim’s SMA Super Bowl teachings of a very malefic Mars-Saturn 2021 Capsolar for Tampa, and an angular Saturn CapQ (partile conjunct West Point) for Tampa.

What about Brady’s current SSR? Again, with Jim’s teachings from his great book “Interpreting Solar Returns we see a glaring malefic indicator with Brady’s secondary progressed SSR Moon at 24,34 Capricorn partile 180 his Natal Saturn at 24,45 Cancer. Jim writes from his book “Interpreting Solar Returns:

This, then, isolates the Moon as the most crucial agent in a Solar Return, after the angles. SSR Lunar aspects to natal and solar planets can never be treated lightly, even when rather wide in orb. So remarkable is this single factor that, if lunar aspects are nearly exact while foreground planets are not exceptionally close to the angles, the solar Moon can be considered the primary theme-setter of the chart for the year ahead, bar none.

If Green Bay was not favored by Vegas of 4 points, instead even or an underdog by Vegas point spread, I would wager 10% of my bank account, which would be a rare amount for me to wager. Instead, I have to make my wager a small recreational wager since the possibility exists Green Bay could possibly win this championship by 1-3 points, which would lose the wager bet on Green Bay -4. Anyway, the Sidereal Mundane astrology for these two teams locations combined with the Sidereal Astrology for the Quarterbacks allows good learning proofs with Sidereal Astrology.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:19 am

Here are Vegas odds for the 4 possible combination for the Super Bowl:

Tampa vs Buffalo +450
Tampa vs Kansas City +350
Green Bay vs Buffalo +250
Green Bay vs Kansas City +140

These odds as well as the odds for the championship games this Sunday all agree with what the Sidereal Mundane Astrology is telling us with Jim's 50 Super Bowl Report analysis. In other words, Green Bay & Kansas City wins their games this Sunday. Both Green Bay and Kansas City are 3 point favorites this Sunday.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:03 am

Tampa’s CapQ for the NFC Championship game sets-up a most interesting SMA co-angularity this Sunday Jan 24, app end of game 6:30 PM EST.

CapQ Saturn partile conjunct West Point in RA
CapQ Uranus & t. Uranus partile conjunct CapQ MC

Without a doubt most of the people in Tampa will be watching this NFC Championship game pulling for a victory to send their team to the Super Bowl. I will be watching this game with interest testing Ebertin’s COSI “Principle” for Saturn-Uranus combos:

Irritability and inhibition, tension

Let’s see if Ebertin’s above quoted words manifests with the fans of Tampa with their team losing.
Also there is more malefic Sidereal Mundane Astrology for Tampa with this championship game:

Capsolar Saturn partile conjunct (eclipto and mundo) Capsolar Descendant; t. Saturn 1,41 conjunct CapQ West Point in RA.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:19 am

Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am Quotidian
WI: MC sq. s Saturn 1°28'.
FL: MC conj. t Mars 1°18', s Uranus 0°49', sq. t Jupiter 0°51', s Jupiter 1°31'. p Asc op. s Mercury 1°39'. p EP op. s Saturn 0°27'.
Conclusion: Slightly favors Tampa. Both teams have a Saturn. It's ALL that Green Bay has - and Tampa has it closer. This tend to cancel each other out. But Tampa has a partile angular Jupiter as part of a Jupiter-Uranus square. I wouldn't want to call it from this chart for either team, but this one chart does slightly favor Tampa.

Steve, this is a good example of the RA aspects (for planets on MC-WP) we were talking about yesterday. Here are the RA positions of the planets on Tampa's CapQ angles:

Capsolar Uranus 34°32'
CapQ MC 35°12'
Capsolar Saturn 305°39' (-270° = 35°39')
transiting Mars 36°04'

Subtract 270° from the Saturn value to see this more clearly (or use the RA Analogue of the three charts to see it displayed differently). We don't quite get a partile Saturn-Uranus aspect, but we do get a partile Mars transit to Saturn exactly on the angle! That definitely makes Tampa's CapQ look worse than it would otherwise.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:21 am

Jim, it appears to me Tampa's Jan 24 CapQ is timing to the day the malefic event forecasted by Tampa's malefic Capsolar, since we already know of the NFC Championship event happening on Tampa's CapQ Jan 24. By only using the Sidereal Astrology principle that partile aspects 'reign supreme', I deem Tampa's Capsolar angular partile 90 of Mars-Saturn highly malefic for Tampa's Championship game with a loss. Do you agree?

And then I see the partile co-angularity contacts (WP/MC) of Saturn-Uranus with this Jan 24 CapQ for Tampa as very malefic, backed-up by a transiting angular contact of Saturn (WP)-Uranus (MC). A double whammy of Saturn-Uranus. By only using partile angular aspects and partile angular contacts, I can't find anything benefic for Tampa. Do you agree?

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:40 am

SteveS wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:21 am By only using partile angular aspects and partile angular contacts, I can't find anything benefic for Tampa. Do you agree?

If you put that limit on it, then that would be correct. However, I disagree with the limit. One thing that became evident in the SMA work is that I had to require a 2° orb for quotidians and transits to ingress angles. In this situation, I can't find any practical difference between these angle contacts within 1° vs. within 2°, so I have to count that angular Jupiter square Uranus as an important factor.

Similarly, I have to count the angular Saturn for Green Bay. It's not as close as the one for Tampa (which may make a difference, but often doesn't).

Still, I think Tampa will end up losing. Taken as a whole, their chart is worse than Green Bay's. But there will be something matching Saturn on a quotidian angle for GB and something matching Jupiter angular square Uranus for Tampa. The easiest interpretation (presuming Tampa looses) is that the Tampa scores in the last minute or two to make the win by less than 4 points.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:49 am

Yes, I understand Jim where you are coming from. Psychologically for the fans of Tampa, I read the angular partile Jupiter-Uranus 90 in Tampa's Capsolar as "Thank the Lord" we are in this NFC Championship game. But I read all of Tampa's partile angular Saturn hits as a loss for the fans of Tampa. No matter, Time will soon tell.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:55 pm

We have had some discussions in this thread about Donald Bradley's delineation of Uranus being a benefic unless Uranus is wired into a malefic. We see Uranus in Tampa's Jan 24 CapQ NFC Championship game wired into Saturn (Westpoint) by being co-angular with Uranus (MC).

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:36 am

Jim, even though we classify Kansas City Missouri 2021 Capsolar as dormant, don’t we have to allow as a strong malefic influence with this Capsolar because Sun-Saturn-Pluto is in close foreground to horizon with mundo direct midpoints as:

Sun/Sa=Asc 0,24 d
Sa/Pl=Asc 0,17 d

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 am

SteveS wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:36 am Jim, even though we classify Kansas City Missouri 2021 Capsolar as dormant, don’t we have to allow as a strong malefic influence with this Capsolar because Sun-Saturn-Pluto is in close foreground to horizon with mundo direct midpoints as:

Sun/Sa=Asc 0,24 d
Sa/Pl=Asc 0,17 d

I've never found that we can look at these at all unless the chart is "live" or "voiced" in the first place. It is as if the chart itself doesn't even exist for that location. That was the magic of learning about dormancy in the first place: It filters out charts that aren't relevant.

While there are other factors describing the KC-Buffalo game, the Year charts are inconclusive unless you want to allow the wide Saturn angularity for Buffalo. The Year charts seem to me inconclusive and the transits to the solar ingresses add nothing. It seems to me the decisive factor is that Bufallo has Saturn (barely) on a CapQ angle and, while both teams have an angular Jupiter in the CapQ, KC has two of them. Though Venus isn't a winner planet itself, it seems to me that the people in KC are incredibly happy for some reason today, then Venus angular in the Cansolar for the year and Venus (with the two Jupiters) angular in the CapQ.

KC then has something that will be mind-boggling: They have ingress Sun 0°02' from a CapQ angle about the time the game ends and transiting Pluto conjunct it within 0°01' - as Pluto is about to cross the 0°00' Capricorn line in three days. This COULD be an underdog situation favoring Buffalo, or it could be "one for the record books." With the rest of the Capsolar being mind bogglingly positive, it seems they are single out for something extraordinarily positive.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:43 am

Here is Kansas City's CapQ for 8:30 PM tomorrow with all planets within 2° of an angle. (Obviously the pivotal time could be slightly different. CapQ angles change 0°02.5' per hour.) I notice that these orbs are slightly different than I listed above - I was having all kinds of math fumbles that morning - but the listed planets are correct.

10°18' Cap - t Sun
11°00' Cap - s Jupiter
11°39' Can - CapQ Asc
11°42' Ari - s Uranus (stationary)
13°23' Cap - t Jupiter

29°37' Sag - s Pluto
29°57' Sag - t Pluto
0°00' Cap - s Sun
0°01' Ari - CapQ MC

25°36' Sag - t Venus (292°22')
26°26' Gem - CapQ EP (113°12')

Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:45 am

Patrick MaHomes, KC's rookie running back who is nearly a god to the fans, got hurt recently and has just come off concussion watch. He's playing in this game for the first time since he was injured. That's your Venus.

I don't know enough about football to understand the rest of the jargon but the sportswriters are pretty excited.

I know this guy's name because he's raking it in in endorsements and advertisments for local chains like Nebraska Furniture Mart and HyVee grocery stores.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:08 am

Thanks Jim for your thoughts/analysis for this KC-Buffalo game, excellent observations.

Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:10 am

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:45 am Patrick MaHomes, KC's rookie running back who is nearly a god to the fans, got hurt recently and has just come off concussion watch.

I didn't finish my thought. The local sports news guys are all saying if MaHomes plays, KC will win. If he doesn't, they will lose. They're all talking about the odds depend on if he plays or not.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:28 am

JSAD wrote:

I didn't finish my thought. The local sports news guys are all saying if MaHomes plays, KC will win. If he doesn't, they will lose. They're all talking about the odds depend on if he plays or not.

JSAD, you raise a very critical point. Let me put it to you this way. If MaHomes is not able to play, this most certainly would manifest the direct midpoint of Sun/Saturn=Asc in KC's Capsolar!!! But, it is highly unlikely Vegas would put out any kind of odds on this game if there were any doubts MaHomes was not going to play because of 'concussion protocols' which exists in the NFL. I know this: Because there are doubts because MaHomes was carried off the field last week in their game because of a concussion, I am not betting any money on this game, all of my $ are on Green Bay to win vs Tampa. If for any kind of concussion problems during KC game today, this would highly favor Buffalo winning this game vs KC.

If Buffalo happens to win this game, I would have to say the tight foreground malefic mundo midpoints in KC Capsolar would definitely be the astrological reason KC lost this game, because Capsolars symbolism trumps CapQ symbolism.

CBS Sports says McHomes has cleared Concussion Protocols and will play in game tonight.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chie ... -vs-bills/

Thanks JSAD for your above post.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:57 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am Green Bay, WI vs. Tampa, FL: January 24, 2021, 5:30 PM CST, Green Bay, WI
Green Bay a 4 point favorite and a -190 Money Line.

I can't take credit for predicting this one other than that my basic answer is right: Don't bet on this one. I said it was too close to call and then, off the record (but, let's admit that it's what I thought would happen), I incorrectly said Green Bay would win.

CONCLUSION
Too close a call to bet but, in the end, I do think Green Bay wins. (Were I to go only on the CapQ, I'd call it for Tampa, and there are some indications of surprising the odds-makers. The Capsolar is such a strong indicator, though - people in Wisconsin will be much happier than people in Florida that day so, if it centers on the game, Green Bay wins. Possibly the negatives and surprises are that they don't win by 4.)

True, they didn't win by 4. They lost by 5.

So, with hindsight can we fine-tune what went wrong for them?

Individual charts contributed to this outcome, not all of them saying the same thing. I said the YEAR chart (the Capsolar) favored Green Bay but "This is harder than it looks." Both had Jupiter and Saturn foreground. I should have stopped right there and said they cancelled each other out, even though one side had Saturn stronger and the other side had Jupiter stronger; but the historic data is that Saturn shows who loses unless both sides have an angular Saturn, as they did here. I ignored my own basic rule and tried to predict a winner when I should have just picked a loser and said both of them had the mark of it, cancelling each other out. Everything else was fluff.

Moving on to the CapQ, I said it slightly favored Tampa. Both teams again had an angular Saturn but it was the only thing Green Bay had, while Tampa had two winning indications also. In the end, this is probably what delivered the game, but, if following my own rules, I should have said that Saturn on both sides cancels out (at least makes the "lose" uncertain), ignore the chart. - My honest opinion, though, is that the two angular Jupiters prevailed for Tampa, but we probably couldn't have seen this in advance.

Finally, transits to the Capsolar angles. This is really the one factor we should have relied on and it would have misled us. Tampa (not Green Bay) had an angular Saturn. That was enough for them to lose. Furthermore, Green Bay had a Jupiter so, being without Saturn, they should have won. I don't have an easy explanation.

But I felt uneasy all the way through these mixed messages in various charts, so I did say don't bet on this one. It went even worse for Green Bay than I thought (and I thought they'd be disappointed about something).

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:03 am

Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am Kansas City, MO vs. Buffalo, NY: January 24, 2021, 8:30 PM CST, Kansas City, MO
Kansas City a 3 point favorite and a -145 Money Line.

This one was much easier. KC won by an easy 14, totally owning the middle two quarters and coasting in the fourth. The prediction was:

KC wins. (People are happy in Kansas City.)

The YEAR chart was inconclusive. Either neither side had a losing chart or the weaker Saturn for Buffalo showed a loss.

The CapQ leaned toward Kansas City. Buffalo had an angular Saturn which was enough for a loss. On top of that, KC had two Jupiters. Easy call.

Transits to the YEAR chart had nothing useful to say.

So, the CapQ being the main voice, it was an easy call for KC.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:31 am

Jim wrote:

Finally, transits to the Capsolar angles. This is really the one factor we should have relied on and it would have misled us. Tampa (not Green Bay) had an angular Saturn. That was enough for them to lose. Furthermore, Green Bay had a Jupiter so, being without Saturn, they should have won. I don't have an easy explanation.

Indeed. This is what fooled me. I went with Green Bay Jupiter Partile conjunct their Capsolar angle and with Saturn partile conjunct Tampa’s Capsolar angle for predicting Green Bay to win this one. This one completely fooled me.
Jim wrote:

The CapQ leaned toward Kansas City. Buffalo had an angular Saturn which was enough for a loss. On top of that, KC had two Jupiters. Easy call.

Agreed!

Kansas City a 3 point favorite over Tampa in the Super Bowl on Feb 7th , app end of game 10:30 EST.

parsfortuna · Post by **parsfortuna** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:47 pm

Tell you what, at first glance this looks like a strong call for Kansas City -3.

KC CapQ chart has Jupiter 308°33' conjunct Westpoint at 307°08'.
I didn't see Jim note that in the writeup for KC playing in the Super Bowl, but I think I have this correct?

I know we said the KC Capsolar is counted as dormant, but I think we can still use the CapQ for it with these rules.
The KC CanQ does also have Mercury conjunct and square the angles.

I see no losing KC Saturn aspects in any of the charts.
And surely that ugly Tampa CapSolar with the nasty Sat and Mars has to finally show itself in the Super Bowl?

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:24 am

Parsfortuna wrote:

And surely that ugly Tampa CapSolar with the nasty Sat and Mars has to finally show itself in the Super Bowl?

Indeed! Put this together with Tom Brady’s secondary progressed Solar Moon 25,04 Cap partile 180 his Natal Saturn 24,45 Can, good % Tampa loses this game.
Parsfortuna wrote:

I see no losing KC Saturn aspects in any of the charts.

I see KC CapQ Saturn 1,28 conjunct CapQ WP in RA, but I think Jim says KC 2020 Cansolar trumps KC CapQ since this Cansolar flows through as KC Chart of the year. KC Cansolar features an angular Venus for victory/social parties/celebrations. Maybe Jim can post his analysis later. Thanks for your thoughts parsfortuna.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:23 am

Rewriting the Super Bowl prediction as I said I would. It turns out one of the teams is playing on its home field, which gives it a certain physical and psychological advantage. Will it be enough? - I don't think anyone will be surprised at the outcome below.

Tampa vs. Kansas City, MO
February 7, 2021, 10:00 PM EST, Tampa, FL

Year Chart
MO: Venus (Moon Neptune). Capsolar dormant. Cansolar leads with Venus 1°53' from IC.
FL: Sun Mars Jupiter Saturn Pluto (Mercury Uranus). Mars sq. Asc 0°06'. Saturn on Dsc 0°36'. Jupiter on Dsc 2°19'. Sun-Pluto, Mercury-Mars-Uranus, Mars-Saturn Jupiter-Saturn, Jupiter-Uranus.
Conclusion: Tampa loses. Saturn exactly sets in the Capsolar.

Quotidian
MO: p MC sq. t Venus 1°16', sq. s Mercury 1°07'. p Asc op. p Moon 0°41', op. s Moon, op. t Sun 1°54'.
FL: p MC sq. t Mercury 1°03'.
Conclusion: Inconclusive. Nothing to go on for either outcome.

Transits
MO: No transits to Capsolar or Cansolar angles.
FL: t Pluto sq. Capsolar MC 1°51'. No transits to Cansolar.
Conclusion: Inconclusive. Nothing to go on.

CONCLUSION
Tampa loses.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:50 am

Thanks Jim.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:29 pm

Phew! I mean... I know there's a quarter to go, but... oh my!