2022 Baseball World Series
2022 Baseball World Series
Jim, when (if) you have time. World Series: Philadelphia Pa, vs Houston Texas; best 4 out of 7 games.
Fri Oct 28
Sat Oct 29
Mon Oct 31
Tue Nov 1
Wed Nov 2 (if necessary)
Fri Nov 4 (if necessary)
Sat Nov 5 (if necessary)
I think all games are prime time with app end of game 11:00 PM Central time.
Fri Oct 28
Sat Oct 29
Mon Oct 31
Tue Nov 1
Wed Nov 2 (if necessary)
Fri Nov 4 (if necessary)
Sat Nov 5 (if necessary)
I think all games are prime time with app end of game 11:00 PM Central time.
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I won't be able to get to this, Steve. I'll be back in town 10/31 (late 10/30) and have only limited computer resources while gone.
I wouldn't be in the office today (would be home helping Marion finish packing), except we have several new attorneys starting today and I need to kick off their orientation; so I'm here until 11 or 12, then Uber to the airport (to converge with Marion coming from a different direction). Tonight, we're walkin' in Memphis (staying about a bock from the Peabody this time - so we'll be sure to see the ducks! - I think they're letting general public in once more).
I wouldn't be in the office today (would be home helping Marion finish packing), except we have several new attorneys starting today and I need to kick off their orientation; so I'm here until 11 or 12, then Uber to the airport (to converge with Marion coming from a different direction). Tonight, we're walkin' in Memphis (staying about a bock from the Peabody this time - so we'll be sure to see the ducks! - I think they're letting general public in once more).
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A quick look:
Philadelphia has Capsolar and Cansolar both dormant, so the Libsolar takes on unusual importance as Quarter chart: It has Sun-Venus straddling Asc square Pluto. Big happy quarter of the year for Philie. Sun and Venus transit Capsolar EP through the early games. CapQ Asc opposite Jupiter 11/4. No Saturns from this quick look.
Houston has Veus exactly angular in the Capsolar, suggesting a happy year overall (and it's been great for the city in business, growth, and cultural events). Other solar ingresses add nothing useful. Ah, but November 2-4, CapQ Asc opposes Saturn.
Philadelphia wins, probably on November 4.
Run the CapQ for each city for end of game 11/4 and see:
8°26' Aqu - Capsolar Jupiter
8°48' Leo - Philadelphia CapQ Asc
18°16' Can - Houston CapQ Asc
18°28' Cap - Capsolar Saturn
PS - If I'm right about outcome and date, remember this is from 5 minutes of work with no knowledge of the teams or technical details, just two geographic locations and a range of days.
Philadelphia has Capsolar and Cansolar both dormant, so the Libsolar takes on unusual importance as Quarter chart: It has Sun-Venus straddling Asc square Pluto. Big happy quarter of the year for Philie. Sun and Venus transit Capsolar EP through the early games. CapQ Asc opposite Jupiter 11/4. No Saturns from this quick look.
Houston has Veus exactly angular in the Capsolar, suggesting a happy year overall (and it's been great for the city in business, growth, and cultural events). Other solar ingresses add nothing useful. Ah, but November 2-4, CapQ Asc opposes Saturn.
Philadelphia wins, probably on November 4.
Run the CapQ for each city for end of game 11/4 and see:
8°26' Aqu - Capsolar Jupiter
8°48' Leo - Philadelphia CapQ Asc
18°16' Can - Houston CapQ Asc
18°28' Cap - Capsolar Saturn
PS - If I'm right about outcome and date, remember this is from 5 minutes of work with no knowledge of the teams or technical details, just two geographic locations and a range of days.
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Exactly my sentiments Jim. I just worked the following post-up before I read your post—but will post it anyway.
Betting odds for this World Series:
Houston -200 (200 $ wager gets you 100 $ if Houston wins).
Philly + 175 (100 $ wager gets you 175 $ if Philly wins).
Check out the Houston Furniture Magnate (link below) who last May bet 3 million on Houston to win WS at + 1000. If Houston wins, he wins 30 million. If he hedges his bet on Philly to win series the worst he can do is win 15 million.
https://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/world-series-odds/
Jim, I think you will find the SMA analysis for this series most interesting.
I will take half my sports winnings this year and bet it on Philly to win this series. Probably, most of the bettors in the entire World will bet on Houston to win this Series but SMA clearly symbolizes Philly wins, one of the most interesting sports betting situations I have seen in a long time.
Betting odds for this World Series:
Houston -200 (200 $ wager gets you 100 $ if Houston wins).
Philly + 175 (100 $ wager gets you 175 $ if Philly wins).
Check out the Houston Furniture Magnate (link below) who last May bet 3 million on Houston to win WS at + 1000. If Houston wins, he wins 30 million. If he hedges his bet on Philly to win series the worst he can do is win 15 million.
https://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/world-series-odds/
Jim, I think you will find the SMA analysis for this series most interesting.
I will take half my sports winnings this year and bet it on Philly to win this series. Probably, most of the bettors in the entire World will bet on Houston to win this Series but SMA clearly symbolizes Philly wins, one of the most interesting sports betting situations I have seen in a long time.
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Great, You & Marion enjoy.Tonight, we're walkin' in Memphis (staying about a bock from the Peabody this time - so we'll be sure to see the ducks! - I think they're letting general public in once more).
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Vegas total games for Philly to win series 4-2 (6 games) + 500 (100 $ gets you 500 $).
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The charts look like that's exactly what will happen.SteveS wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:25 pm Vegas total games for Philly to win series 4-2 (6 games) + 500 (100 $ gets you 500 $).
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I totally agree! Wagering 20 $ on Philly winning the Series 4-2.The charts look like that's exactly what will happen.
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Philly was down 5-0 against Verlander, the best pitcher in the Majors, but came back and won 6-5 in extra innings. Makes me think it may be "meant to be" by SMA for Philly to win this Series.
Vegas new Series odds: Philly -120 favorite from a + 175 underdog.
Vegas new Series odds: Philly -120 favorite from a + 175 underdog.
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Whew! Big odds shift! (And we knew it first.)
We were in our favorite dive bar here in Memphis where they had the game on. We looked for a minute when it was tied, then ignored it and put our attention on music and beverages. A bit later, though, the whole room erupted into cheers and it was clear without turning around that the game was over.
We were in our favorite dive bar here in Memphis where they had the game on. We looked for a minute when it was tied, then ignored it and put our attention on music and beverages. A bit later, though, the whole room erupted into cheers and it was clear without turning around that the game was over.
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Gayle & I were streaming a program from Brit-Box and I was periodically checking the score on my phone. I saw Houston was leading 5-0 and thought this game is over---then checked it a couple hours later and saw the game in extra innings. It is amazing to me to observe SMA at times and this was one of those times.
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If Phillie not only wins but, specifically, wins on Game 6, that means Houston has to win a couple along the way. Nothing really distinguished the early games other than some nice transits to Phillie overlapping the earlier games. From the charts, the earliest games all have nice transits for Phillie which doesn't mean they win them all, but does likely mean their fans continue to be happy with how their guys are playing.
From the charts, the earliest Phillie could win it all is Game 5, but the contacts are closer for Game 6. They probably win most of the early games, then Houston surges back, then Phillie cinches it - something like that. By chance are these early games played in Philadelphia with Houston to get some home field advantage in the middle?
From the charts, the earliest Phillie could win it all is Game 5, but the contacts are closer for Game 6. They probably win most of the early games, then Houston surges back, then Phillie cinches it - something like that. By chance are these early games played in Philadelphia with Houston to get some home field advantage in the middle?
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Houston won last night. If I had to guess---Houston wins another game when their Ace pitcher Verlander pitches again one day this week. But those CapQs presents quite a contrast with angular CapQ Jupiter-Saturn symbolism for the two cities this week. If memory is serving me, your wrote that the highest probability for picking winners/loosers is when we see this contrast with Jupiter & Saturn----so yes, high probability Philly wins this series....that means Houston has to win a couple along the way.
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Series odds back in favor for Houston:
Houston - 175
Philly + 150
Houston - 175
Philly + 150
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As in: Everybody place your bets, a buck gets you an extra buck and a half.SteveS wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:21 am Series odds back in favor for Houston:
Houston - 175
Philly + 150
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What will be very interesting to see: If Houston wins their 2nd game of this series tonight--Vegas odds will probably go to + 300 on Philly.
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Then Philadelphia would need to surge through with three consecutive wins. People probably will remember this series for a while. I do hope we're reading the charts correctly because it will be a great bragging story over beers in the future LOL.SteveS wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:56 am What will be very interesting to see: If Houston wins their 2nd game of this series tonight--Vegas odds will probably go to + 300 on Philly.
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Jim wrote:
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Yes, and if this situation arises—Vegas will put out odds for Philly winning the next 3.Then Philadelphia would need to surge through with three consecutive wins.
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There is no doubt in my mind we/you are reading the charts correctly! But, there are no guarantees with SMA, its only 80% accurate, right? If right, it will be a “great bragging story” for us with your great work on analyzing 50 Super Bowls with SMA, and with my faith for SMA on its high % accuracy for picking losers for Championship sports. It will be a great “underdog” story for the sporting world. If Philly wins this series I will post details of their season struggles including firing their manager with Philly at the bottom of their division. No one in the sporting world gave em a chance to even make the playoffs---and look at em now---playing for a Championship. I am all in on Philly with my recreational seasonal winnings. Its so much fun for me since I am betting with Vegas $.I do hope we're reading the charts correctly because it will be a great bragging story over beers in the future LOL.
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Postponement (game 3) last night due to rain, the rest of the scheduled games shift a day later.
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So the revised schedule is:SteveS wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:05 am Postponement (game 3) last night due to rain, the rest of the scheduled games shift a day later.
Game 5: Nov 3
Game 6: Nov 5
Game 7: Nov 6
For Houston, Saturn is within 2° of CapQ Descendant 11/3 (closest) and 11/5 (barely).
For Philadelphia, Jupiter is within 2° of CapQ Descendant 11/3 (closest), 11/5, and 11/6 (barely).
I didn't write it above but, when doing my original calculations, I picked 11/3 as the day Philadelphia would win, then noticed there was no game that day; so I went with the perfectly fine contacts on 11/4.
It looks like the win will be in Game 5, not Game 6, because of the schedule change.
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I agree Jim.
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Philly 7 Houston 0; Philly leads series 2-1. New Vegas Series odds--- Philly is now a -145 favorite; Houston a + 145 underdog.
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Houston throws a no-hitter on Philly winning 5-0 to even Series 2-2. A very pivotal game tonight for SMA and Philly. New Vegas odds: Houston a heavy favorite at -190; Philly back to a considerable underdog at + 160. Houston pitches their ACE tonight---Verlander.
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Houston 3 Philly 2; Houston leads series 3-2. Overall, so far, SMA CapQs (Daily charts) have dissapointed with their normal high rate of success for picking winners/losers when we see both Jupiter for one team (Philly) and Saturn for the other team (Houston) angular.
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Yes, by all astro-logic, last night should have been Philladelphia's night.
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Looks like I completely blew this one.
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Jim, the outcome of this one rattled my SMA expectations. Out of the dozens of SMA analysis I have done over the years with championships events, this World Series was one where I would have given the highest % of em all for a Houston loss. Oh well, that’s why from your SMA statistical analysis the math predicts 80% accuracy, allowing for 20% wrong results for SMA with championship sporting events. I had high SMA expectation for the outcome for this championship backed with much excitement, but experience much disappointment with the final results. We will move on to the next championship sporting event.
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Steve, I'm sorry the system let us down (and cost you money!).
I have a couple of theories to test. Can you give me the end time and place of the final game? I'll let you know if my thinking pans out on this.
I have a couple of theories to test. Can you give me the end time and place of the final game? I'll let you know if my thinking pans out on this.
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Jim, I don’t know the exact time the game ended, but it was within 10 minutes of 10:45 PM I think. I will do some further checking to see if I can pinpoint the exact time. No need to apologize for my loss of $ with SMA methods, I was well aware there was a 20 % probability for error with your statistical analysis for 50 Super Bowls.
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Jim, to the minute, the World Series ended in Houston at 10:17 CDT Nov 5. Note Jup partile cnj local MC! May have been exact for coordinates at stadium and or with the exact time to seconds.
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The skies over Houston were certainly positive at the last minute - which serves us not at all in future predictions, of course.
Even though the aggregate response of the Super Bowl data to ingresses shows a "best practices" path, I wanted to see if other factors - ones I don't normally check for these games - gave us more, better details. The "best practices" path (derived from the Super Bowl statistics) is to rely on the CapQ and transits to Capsolar as the only ingress for final timing unless it doesn't give an answer; in which case, consult the CanQ and transits to the Cansolar.
I wanted to see if this was one of those cases where factors were so compelling in the Aries and Libra ingresses that events couldn't ignore them.
Checking the AriQ, I see exactly the opposite: Transiting Saturn is within 2° of MC for Houston. It just doubles down on the Saturn messages. Pluto transiting Arisolar Nadir adds nothing (especially since the Vegas odds were flipping daily). The LibQ was interesting but not decisive, with ingress Sun-Pluto on the angles and Venus close: If I had this chart only, I'd have picked Houston (but this isn't enough IMHO to overwhelm the CapQ Saturn).
Switching to Philadelphia, the AriQ has ingress Venus at MC: If anything, this would tip to Phillie. We do get one strong negative, though, with transiting Saturn conjunct Arisolar IC. With nearly identical angles as the Arisolar, the LibQ almost had Saturn on IC, but not quite in 2° orvb.
My conclusion is that, while there were SOME contrary signals in the lesser solar ingresses - especially Saturn transiting Arisolar IC for Phillie - these still don't overwhelm the seemingly decisive (but wrong) CapQ indices. The Arisolar transit might have advised more caution, given us less of a sense of smug certainty, but wouldn't have contradicted.
Another thing I wanted to check was the lunar ingresses. These failed badly in the Super Bowl study (for reasons discussed there) with "best practice" seeming to be ignoring them completely. But did they give a contrary message this time? (That is, should they be given minimal, rare attention rather than no attention at all?)
With a Pisces Moon at the end of the last game, the only relevant lunar ingress was the Caplunar (unless it was dormant). For Houston, it was indeed dormant, driving our attention to the Liblunar (also dormant), the Canlunar (also dormant), and finally the Arilunar which, for Houston, had Sun and Venus conjoined on the EP. I might have read this (had I looked) merely as Houston being broadly happy and optimistic with their team in the Series and the games occurring in town but, taken by itself, the only "live" lunar ingress for Houston was positive.
Philadelphia had a dormant Caplunar but a live Liblunar with a LOT of activity. The closest angularities are Moon, Sun, Uranus, and Pluto with lesser angularities of Venus and Mercury. This isn't a bad chart at all though it does seem to speak of frequent shifts in who is "up," which happened through most of the series. The Moon-Sun-Venus triple conjunction square Uranus and the 0°07' foreground Uranus-Pluto mundane square is quite positive and exciting. I think its impact was not on the game itself but (as with Houston) on the larger time period of the Series and the excitement that their team was playing at all.
I conclude that nothing here changes the "best practice" ignoring the lunar ingresses when the goal is to predict the game.
SMA blew it on this one - just like it was completely wrong on Super Bowl 50. I wish I could close the loop on that last 20% but, so far, I haven't found anything that makes it better. (Your approach of supplementing the ingresses with charts of the major players has been the best polish I've seen yet.)
Even though the aggregate response of the Super Bowl data to ingresses shows a "best practices" path, I wanted to see if other factors - ones I don't normally check for these games - gave us more, better details. The "best practices" path (derived from the Super Bowl statistics) is to rely on the CapQ and transits to Capsolar as the only ingress for final timing unless it doesn't give an answer; in which case, consult the CanQ and transits to the Cansolar.
I wanted to see if this was one of those cases where factors were so compelling in the Aries and Libra ingresses that events couldn't ignore them.
Checking the AriQ, I see exactly the opposite: Transiting Saturn is within 2° of MC for Houston. It just doubles down on the Saturn messages. Pluto transiting Arisolar Nadir adds nothing (especially since the Vegas odds were flipping daily). The LibQ was interesting but not decisive, with ingress Sun-Pluto on the angles and Venus close: If I had this chart only, I'd have picked Houston (but this isn't enough IMHO to overwhelm the CapQ Saturn).
Switching to Philadelphia, the AriQ has ingress Venus at MC: If anything, this would tip to Phillie. We do get one strong negative, though, with transiting Saturn conjunct Arisolar IC. With nearly identical angles as the Arisolar, the LibQ almost had Saturn on IC, but not quite in 2° orvb.
My conclusion is that, while there were SOME contrary signals in the lesser solar ingresses - especially Saturn transiting Arisolar IC for Phillie - these still don't overwhelm the seemingly decisive (but wrong) CapQ indices. The Arisolar transit might have advised more caution, given us less of a sense of smug certainty, but wouldn't have contradicted.
Another thing I wanted to check was the lunar ingresses. These failed badly in the Super Bowl study (for reasons discussed there) with "best practice" seeming to be ignoring them completely. But did they give a contrary message this time? (That is, should they be given minimal, rare attention rather than no attention at all?)
With a Pisces Moon at the end of the last game, the only relevant lunar ingress was the Caplunar (unless it was dormant). For Houston, it was indeed dormant, driving our attention to the Liblunar (also dormant), the Canlunar (also dormant), and finally the Arilunar which, for Houston, had Sun and Venus conjoined on the EP. I might have read this (had I looked) merely as Houston being broadly happy and optimistic with their team in the Series and the games occurring in town but, taken by itself, the only "live" lunar ingress for Houston was positive.
Philadelphia had a dormant Caplunar but a live Liblunar with a LOT of activity. The closest angularities are Moon, Sun, Uranus, and Pluto with lesser angularities of Venus and Mercury. This isn't a bad chart at all though it does seem to speak of frequent shifts in who is "up," which happened through most of the series. The Moon-Sun-Venus triple conjunction square Uranus and the 0°07' foreground Uranus-Pluto mundane square is quite positive and exciting. I think its impact was not on the game itself but (as with Houston) on the larger time period of the Series and the excitement that their team was playing at all.
I conclude that nothing here changes the "best practice" ignoring the lunar ingresses when the goal is to predict the game.
SMA blew it on this one - just like it was completely wrong on Super Bowl 50. I wish I could close the loop on that last 20% but, so far, I haven't found anything that makes it better. (Your approach of supplementing the ingresses with charts of the major players has been the best polish I've seen yet.)
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I agree Jim, its probably an "outstanding incident" benefic return chart or an angled Solar Arc direction for either a head coach or quarterback which accounts for SMA 20 % error, but I will still take the 80% accuracy for any championship situation. Dusty Baker has been a Major League coach for 25 years and won his first World Series. I wish we had his AA timed birth.SMA blew it on this one - just like it was completely wrong on Super Bowl 50. I wish I could close the loop on that last 20% but, so far, I haven't found anything that makes it better. (Your approach of supplementing the ingresses with charts of the major players has been the best polish I've seen yet.)
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His transits weren't necessarily friendly. He was born June 15k 1949, Riverside, CA, hour unknown with transiting Mars in the degree of natal Sun as the game ended.
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80% on what is essentially a coin flip is better than any non-astrological method of handicapping I ever heard of and over time win win boatloads of money, but it does lose 20% of the time. It only seems disappointing because certain techniques have 95% accuracy in other matters. I once described astrological prediction as trying to get 52% on a coin flip (which will win all the money in sight over a sufficiently long run), I'd say 80% is a damn sight better than that.
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A recreational sports bettor only on championship situations will take 80% accuracy for any sports year. But I must say this World Series was my most dissappointing SMA loss ever because of the failure of the contrasting Jupiter (Philly) & Saturn (Houston) daily CapQs, which are SMA's most reliable prediction method---and rare to see. Never ever bet $ you can't afford to lose---treat recreational gambling no differnt as spending $ on any kind of recreational activity. Good to hear from you Mike.