Margaret Thatcher

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Margaret Thatcher

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Apr 08, 2013
Freya wrote:As Margaret Thatcher died today, I thought it would be interesting to post her chart. Saturn and the Moon are foreground which in my opinion represent her quite well as well as mars sq Pluto and Saturn in Libra
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Re: Margaret Thatcher

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As for that Leo Moon on the Midheaven square Venus: I spoke yesterday to a woman (a personal friend) who knew her (was around her frequently in the '80s). In addition to the effective politician who broke ground as the first female PM, my friend remarked with a smile that Maggie could be "a real girly girl" as well. For example, she'd call Nancy Reagan to compare what they were wearing to a state dinner.
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Re: Margaret Thatcher

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To me, an interesting point is that her Sedna is 21 Pis 29, in reasonably close opposition to her Sun. There is a variety of feminist emergence in the Sedna notes that have been accumulating, and her role as Britain's first and (so far) only female PM makes her de facto an icon of that theme. It also exactly squares her Jupiter-Pluto opposition, which already is the dominant aspect of her chart.

Since I have the mundoscope in front of me, here are the planetary angularity figures mundanely: Saturn is 2°48' above the Ascendant. Moon is 5°09' west of the MC, Neptune is much farther away (11° off the meridian in PV), so doesn't count as foreground. The Moon-Saturn mundane square, of course, dominates the chart. - The Sun, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and Pluto are in the background. The Venus (which looked like it might be foreground) is middleground.

For someone called the "Iron Lady," Mars is startlingly weak in the chart. It's backghround, not distinguished by sign, with no emphasis on the Mars signs. I think what was characterized as iron was actually lead - the rising Saturn - but "Lead Lady" doesn't have the same feel ;)

Where Mars does get some prominence is in that very important background configuration, that is a very wide T-square. Though the Sun and Mars aspects to Jupiter-Pluto are wide enough to draw very little attention in the chart, the Sun/Mars midpoint is 20°47' Virgo, square the Jupiter-Pluto opposition partile. (And the Ju/Pl midpoint is 20°55' Virgo. The connection is very close.) That shows the Jupiter-Pluto expressing itself especially as if through a Sun-Mars conjunction. Besides that (and a close semisquare to Neptune), Mars is pretty absent in the chart.

Just glancing at her transits this week, her final stroke came (not surprisingly) with Pluto in partile square to her Mars. Neptune was partile conjunct her IC (had she survived, she likely would have been highly dependent, in a long convalescence). A transiting Venus-Mars conjunction opposed her Sun.
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Re: Margaret Thatcher

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Danica wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote:I think what was characterized as iron was actually lead - the rising Saturn - but "Lead Lady" doesn't have the same feel ;)
Yes, that was exactly my first impression upon looking at her chart! The idea of Iron' used in this expression refers to her firmness, I think.
It's interesting to note that in Serbian, her nickname was literally 'Steel Lady' (Čelična Ledi). Perhaps other Slavic languages as well?

And her Moon-Neptune and Moon-Venus aspects seem intriguing - portraying her as sensitive and capable of much empathy together with being the Iron Lady --- what a paradoxical combination! (I'll have to watch that movie about her life!)
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