Where should I live/travel to?

[sagegreen8]

Hello, I'm trying to understand my chart for astrocartography but its all so confusing and I don't know what any of it means. Could someone help me understand my chart? I'd love to know what area(s) in the world are best for me to live for friendship, love, career, prosperity, peace, growth, fulfillment, fun, etc.

I'm a woman and was born on August 30th, 1999 at 10:00am in Columbia, Missouri. I still live in my birth town and its not terrible, but I don't feel a connection to it.

[Jim Eshelman]

Hello, I'm trying to understand my chart for astrocartography but its all so confusing and I don't know what any of it means. Could someone help me understand my chart? I'd love to know what area(s) in the world are best for me to live for friendship, love, career, prosperity, peace, growth, fulfillment, fun, etc. ... I still live in my birth town and its not terrible, but I don't feel a connection to it.

Sage, welcome to Solunars. You say "areas in the world" - are you literally open to any place in the world, or do you want to define that more narrowly? Do you have any requirements on what type of place to live (urban vs. rural, climate, culture, language, etc.)?

In the United States, you have no place that highlights benefic planets other than the uppermost corner of Maine (east of Bangor) where Jupiter is on Descendant, or another very interesting Jupiter line (Jupiter square Midheaven) at the longitude of Virginia Beach. It p[asses due north-south from there: through northern coastal areas of North Virginia, north through Virginia Beach, near Washington and Baltimore, through eastern (mostly rural) Pennsylvania, and through central New York state (e.g., Syracuse).

We can break this down a bit: The areas at the latitudes of Pennsylvania and New York have some other characteristics that look physically and emotionally difficult. But Virginia Beach, VA itself has a Jupiter-Uranus combination that is a nice lucky quality if nothing else interferes. If there is any particular place along this line that especially attracts you, we could zoom in more tightly for a more careful look.

[sagegreen8]

Hi Jim! Thank you for replying I've always been interested in the idea of living in New York, at least for a short period of time. Specifically one one of the bigger cities like NYC, Manhattan or Brooklyn - is there anything in my chart that says those areas may be good to live in? Or will it just be challenging there? Or what about California, like L.A, San Diego, San Francisco?

But from what I'm understanding, you say that Virginia Beach area may be good for me? I've never thought about that area, but I'd definitely visit.

I'm open to any place in the world. I would probably want to live in a city long term, but I also love nature. Could you tell me which areas in each continent would be best for me? If that's too much work though, I'd love to hear about how my chart looks in Europe and Asia.

[Jim Eshelman]

I've always been interested in the idea of living in New York, at least for a short period of time. Specifically one one of the bigger cities like NYC, Manhattan or Brooklyn - is there anything in my chart that says those areas may be good to live in? Or will it just be challenging there?

New York City (which includes Manhattan and Brooklyn) has strong positive indicators, though not as strong as the dead-on (exact) Jupiter line farther west, in central NY state. Jupiter is 3° from Descendant, which is reasonably close. Neptune is 1°00' from Nadir, so it would be the dominant presence, but Jupiter is of similar strength. (You then have small bits of Moon and Uranus).

So there is certainly enough positive to spend some time there and check it out. It's a great city. The Neptune suggests frustrations and feeling a little lost perhaps, though the Jupiter is so strong it may outweigh that. - You haven't said what your life goals are, career direction, etc., and if they are in Neptunian areas (e.g., any form of entertainment, for which the city thrives) this could be especially good.

On a similar note, I don't know if you are into music or entertainment, but have you seen the movie Maestro (currently on Netflix)? It's the story of Leonard Bernstein who, like you, had Sun in Leo and Moon in Pisces. You might enjoy it for that reason. Your chart does have strong indications of creativity, so NYC might be a good center for you for that reason.

However, it does have other indications of frustrations on personal things like romance. You pick up a 0°09' Venus-Saturn mundane square that might lead to eventual sense of disappointment (especially romantic disappointment or the feeling that "the party never got started"). That's no reason not to try it, of course.

Or what about California, like L.A, San Diego, San Francisco?

You have no planets on angles in the western part of the U.S. (west of the Mississippi River). Mostly that means "no indications one way or another." However, a secondary factor in relocation is a special kind of aspect called a paran that is unique to a specific geographic latitude (regardless of what longitude). You have several parans running through the latitudes of California, which would be stronger or weaker depending on how close you are to the exact latitude.

Very-northern California (the latitude of Redding, more or less) would be the unhappiest: That's where the Venus-Saturn aspect concentrates (without the benefit of the angular Jupiter for NYC, which is about the same latitude). Below the Bay Area (latitude of Monterrey and Fresno) is interesting - not necessarily great, but a mix, and interesting - with Jupiter-Uranus (very positive) and Saturn-Neptune (very negative) influences. Los Angeles County (and the inland areas at the same latitude, essentially anything along U.S. 10 in California such as Riverside, Palm Springs, Joshua Tree, etc.) has a Mercury-Pluto paran: It would stimulate your mind enormously, perhaps be quite revelatory by confronting you with new ideas, blowing your mind a lot. San Diego is about the latitude of a Venus-Mars paran, which besides surging emotions of all sorts mostly means lots and lots of sex. (I don't know about today, but I can testify that in the 1980s there was lots of sex in San Diego <g>.)

But from what I'm understanding, you say that Virginia Beach area may be good for me? I've never thought about that area, but I'd definitely visit.

If you're up for the travel, I'd say it's worth spending a little time there. I've never been to Virginia / North Carolina, but it looks spectacularly beautiful, and yet is the largest city in Virginia (mostly resorts - but Edgar Cayce's foundation is there, too). It's where Jupiter hits most squarely, and then spreads out from there to the other nearby areas I mentioned like northernmost coastal NC, Washington, and Baltimore.

I'm open to any place in the world. I would probably want to live in a city long term, but I also love nature. Could you tell me which areas in each continent would be best for me? If that's too much work though, I'd love to hear about how my chart looks in Europe and Asia.

A quick look (only checking planets, not checking parans): Your Jupiter is a better planet to pull, because your Venus has a moderately strong square to Saturn (putting Venus on the angle means putting Saturn at least close, which wouldn't be great for personal happiness; but having a very exact Vens line might overwhelm that and let Venus-Saturn take more a "good for work" place):

In Europe, you have a Jupiter line slicing right through the middle of Germany, which means it also lands a little west of Oslo and the NW part of Italy (Piedmont). Stay away from the Saturn line which runs up the middle of Greece and continues north a little east of Warsaw etc. You might want to visit Cairo for the same Venus-Mars reasons I mentioned for San Diego (but in Cairo both Venus and Mars are exactly on angles). Venus then continues up through Turkey, almost exact in Ankara, before heading straight through Moscow. (Ankara also had secondary Jupiter and Mercury lines that other places on the Venus line do not.)

BTW, if any of these areas has a particular draw, we can look closer. I'm getting the highlights (the strongest factors).

Your Jupiter rise-set line runs mostly through inaccessible places, but it does run down through part of southeast Asia (Burma, Malasia, westernmost part of Indonesia). Jupiter square MC has better South America options, including Columbia and Peru (very close to Lima).

Venus on MC runs down the middle of South America, though that means it misses most accessible, easily habitable areas. It does, however, slice through inland Argentina and then crosses the coast at Bahia Blanca. Venus on IC is part of eastern China but not coastal (not too far from Beijing, but not exact there). (Venus-Saturn is exact in western Australia, so not a good spot.) Venus on Descendant runs up the center-to-east of Africa but South Africa has some harsh things for you and most of the intervening area isn't as long-term friendly to westerners. There is the Venus-Mars I mentioned before in Egypt.

Perhaps that will get you started.

[sagegreen8]

I've heard good things about Maestro! It's actually on my watchlist on Letterboxd, that's very interesting that we have the same sun and moon

I will definitely check out Virginia, NC, Washington, Baltimore, & Maine since you say those areas should be good for me! You also mentioned Cairo being good - I've been wanting to go there! My family is originally from Libya, so I went to Egypt as a child but don't remember anything.

Were you saying that Argentina, Burma, Malaysia, Indonesia wouldn't be good, and that Columbia and Peru would be? If I'm understanding you correctly.

I'm disappointed to hear South Africa and Greece is not great in my chart, I hoped differently since I'd like to visit at some point. Was it just middle of Greece that wasn't great for me, or all of it? And you're saying Turkey (Ankara), Germany (Oslo), Italy (Piedmont) and Moscow would be good, correct?

Career wise I'm not exactly sure what I wanna do, I took a break from school for over 2 years and I'm going back soon. I've thought about doing something psychiatry related, but I've also been interested in the film industry - I've loved the idea of acting/screenwriting/directing, although I'm not sure if my chart favors the entertainment industry as a career. I've thought about doing something relating to tech (not sure I'd be any good at that) or something to do with communications, public relations, marketing.
I'd probably prefer a creative career though - I love fashion, reading/writing, and film. Psychology/healthcare is also interesting to me.
I don't know what career in general would suit me best.

For San Diego, does that mean just my sex life would be good or also romantic relationships would be as well? And also, is Chicago, Colorado (Denver,) Nashville, Texas (big cities), Seattle or Florida (big cities and/or coastal) good places in the US for me to live potentially?

Could you tell me Where in the world would be best for me in terms of love and career, according to planets and paran? In general, but also let me know if there's any good placements in the US, Canada, Ireland, Scotland, England, Spain, Brazil, Italy, Nordic countries, Austria, Switzerland, Morocco, China, Turkey Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Thailand. Those are the countries I'm probably most interested in living/visiting - but again, I am open to anywhere in the world! I'd probably prioritize first visiting wherever is best for me in terms of love and career and luck/success.

From what I understand: The way to read your chart for astrocartography is through the lines/planet lines and parans. Venus on the IC is for success and love, Neptune for spirituality/intuition, Venus-Saturn is love/relationships and responsibility/difficulties/limitations, Jupiter-Uranus is positive/meaningful, Saturn-Neptune is negative/confusion/uncertainty, Venus MC is positive for purpose, public image, career. What does the Jupiter square MC and Venus Saturn mean?

Thank you so much for taking the time to look at my chart and replying I really appreciate it its very helpful! What's your big three, if you don't mind me asking?

[Jim Eshelman]

Were you saying that Argentina, Burma, Malaysia, Indonesia wouldn't be good, and that Columbia and Peru would be? If I'm understanding you correctly.

Quite the contrary. You have a Venus line through part of Argentina and a Jupiter line through Burma-Malasia-Indonesia (parts of them) and another Jupiter line through Columbia and Peru. These are the prosperity and happiness planets.

I'm disappointed to hear South Africa and Greece is not great in my chart, I hoped differently since I'd like to visit at some point. Was it just middle of Greece that wasn't great for me, or all of it?

You have a Saturn line that affects all of Greece. (Greece is small.) The Saturn line likely would make that a disappointing experience. Perhaps merely for a visit it wouldn't be too bad, though I suspect even for a visit you'd find too many things went wrong. They could be small things for a short stay: For example, I have a Saturn line through Melbourne and Tasmania. I love Sydney and have a great chart there, and when I was in Sydney I wanted to get to Melbourne. However, they had an internal air strike and the only way to get to Melbourne even for a day would be to rent a car and take about a week to drive down there and back, and we didn't have that much time. In this case, it was a minor thing - I enjoyed Sydney so much it didn't matter, though I joked that it was awesome the way the whole country got together and decided to have an internal air strike just for me <g>. OTOH my wife visited a location for the summer where her Saturn was angular (and she had another aspect that was a little explosive) and nearly died from a kidney infection. For her, the Saturn location was wonderful in some ways and mostly hard work and a health crisis. I wouldn't recommend it on principle.

And you're saying Turkey (Ankara), Germany (Oslo), Italy (Piedmont) and Moscow would be good, correct?

Yes. All the way through, Jupiter and Venus mean "good."

...I'm not sure if my chart favors the entertainment industry as a career.

Watch Maestro and know that you have the same basic temperament and knack for outlandish drama as Leonard Bernstein (and, for that matter, Bernie Sanders - another Leo-Pisces - both have been known for a lot of arm waving!). Tech doesn't stand out much in your chart, but there could be other support areas that do, e.g., music or perhaps design elements. You have lots of time to sort this out.

For San Diego, does that mean just my sex life would be good or also romantic relationships would be as well?

There is nothing in the factors unique to San Diego that interfere with romance. It's just that the sex side, and more broadly all passionate expression, stand out. Read about Venus-Mars here: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1220

And also, is Chicago, Colorado (Denver,) Nashville, Texas (big cities), Seattle or Florida (big cities and/or coastal) good places in the US for me to live potentially?

I can't find that I wrote anything on them. Did you want me to check these areas specifically? (Or am I missing something I wrote.)

Could you tell me Where in the world would be best for me in terms of love and career, according to planets and paran?

I've pretty much done that, haven't I? To do it in a more detailed way would take half a day of work and still only be regional, not specific (considering individual calculating of paran orbs, which takes ten minutes per location). If you can narrow it down to two or three or four specific locations, I can look up those exact cities for you. (Same with your other long list. You're asking for days of my doing nothing but working on your chart.) If I didn't say anything about one of those areas already, then it likely doesn't have a Jupiter line or a Venus line that doesn't involve Saturn, so I wouldn't pick it as a first choice of a place to live.

To mention a few easy ones: I've already covered all parts of the U.S. For Canada, extend the Jupiter line up from Virginia Beach due north and look on a map. Great Britain is mostly untouched by your planets except you have a Moon line running north-south through London: You would feel and respond to things with unusual intensity there. Some people find they feel "at home" under Moon lines, so there is no reason to vote against it, though it doesn't overly emphasize the specific Venus-Jupiter type characteristics you said you wanted. The other places you list, I probably would have mentioned if I saw anything specific, but, as I said, I'm willing to do spot-checks on two or three specific places.

What does the Jupiter square MC and Venus Saturn mean?

Jupiter on any angle tends to prosperity, happiness, success, and status. Venus-Saturn aspects (as in the paran lines) are like a Venus-Saturn aspect, such as described here: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1222
Or in terms of events the Venus-Saturn paragraph here: https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=53 ... 1430#p1441

Venus by itself tends to happiness, love, pleasure... in your chart, you have to get this very finely calculated so that Saturn doesn't get in the same location as Venus, and that's a bit tough.

Thank you so much for taking the time to look at my chart and replying I really appreciate it its very helpful! What's your big three, if you don't mind me asking?

You're welcome. - My big three what? Are you asking about my chart? I'm born October 10, 1954, 4:13 AM, Rochester, Indiana.

[sagegreen8]

Quite the contrary. You have a Venus line through part of Argentina and a Jupiter line through Burma-Malasia-Indonesia (parts of them) and another Jupiter line through Columbia and Peru. These are the prosperity and happiness planets.

Oh I misunderstood you! I'm glad those are good for me to visit

You have a Saturn line that affects all of Greece. (Greece is small.) The Saturn line likely would make that a disappointing experience. Perhaps merely for a visit it wouldn't be too bad, though I suspect even for a visit you'd find too many things went wrong. They could be small things for a short stay: For example, I have a Saturn line through Melbourne and Tasmania. I love Sydney and have a great chart there, and when I was in Sydney I wanted to get to Melbourne. However, they had an internal air strike and the only way to get to Melbourne even for a day would be to rent a car and take about a week to drive down there and back, and we didn't have that much time. In this case, it was a minor thing - I enjoyed Sydney so much it didn't matter, though I joked that it was awesome the way the whole country got together and decided to have an internal air strike just for me <g>. OTOH my wife visited a location for the summer where her Saturn was angular (and she had another aspect that was a little ex

Wow, the country really did band together against you haha - I'm glad Sydney is a good place for you though! And I'm glad your wife is okay, that kidney scare sounds so spooky, I didn't even think about health being a factor if someone went to a place bad for them in their chart. Yeah, I would stay for a short time in Greece if I went just because it looks so beautiful there but I'd definitely be cautious.

Watch Maestro and know that you have the same basic temperament and knack for outlandish drama as Leonard Bernstein (and, for that matter, Bernie Sanders - another Leo-Pisces - both have been known for a lot of arm waving!). Tech doesn't stand out much in your chart, but there could be other support areas that do, e.g., music or perhaps design elements. You have lots of time to sort this out.

You've inspired me to watch this movie tonight, I'll get back to you on how I like it!

Yes. All the way through, Jupiter and Venus mean "good."

Yay! I have been to Turkey - just Istanbul, though, and I did enjoy it. I've only been a few days at a time because of layovers but next time I go I wanna stay longer and explore more of Turkey, I didn't get to do much in Istanbul because I was with my parents and they unfortunately don't explore much.

I will read up on the Venus-Mars you linked!

I can't find that I wrote anything on them. Did you want me to check these areas specifically? (Or am I missing something I wrote.)

No, you didn't write anything on them. I was just asking if there was anything interesting there that you could see off a quick glance, but now that I think about it you probably would've mentioned something worth noting lol. So never mind!

I've pretty much done that, haven't I? To do it in a more detailed way would take half a day of work and still only be regional, not specific (considering individual calculating of paran orbs, which takes ten minutes per location). If you can narrow it down to two or three or four specific locations, I can look up those exact cities for you. (Same with your other long list. You're asking for days of my doing nothing but working on your chart.) If I didn't say anything about one of those areas already, then it likely doesn't have a Jupiter line or a Venus line that doesn't involve Saturn, so I wouldn't pick it as a first choice of a place to live.
To mention a few easy ones: I've already covered all parts of the U.S. For Canada, extend the Jupiter line up from Virginia Beach due north and look on a map. Great Britain is mostly untouched by your planets except you have a Moon line running north-south through London: You would feel and respond to things with unusual intensity there. Some people find they feel "at home" under Moon lines, so there is no reason to vote against it, though it doesn't overly emphasize the specific Venus-Jupiter type characteristics you said you wanted. The other places you list, I probably would have mentioned if I saw anything specific, but, as I said, I'm willing to do spot-checks on two or three specific places.

You have done that! Sorry, I just meant out of everywhere you've mentioned, was there a place that was the best for career/love/success, or are all the places you mentioned evenly matched? And when I mentioned those other countries, I didn't realize it took so long to decipher these lines or that calculating takes ten mins per location, apologies! I definitely didn't mean you should spend hours/days looking at it especially since you're helping me for free. I just recently discovered astrocartography so I mostly thought that someone just needed to have a background knowledge of what the lines/planets meant and that looking at the chart didn't take too long. Thank you again!

Jupiter on any angle tends to prosperity, happiness, success, and status. Venus-Saturn aspects (as in the paran lines) are like a Venus-Saturn aspect, such as described here: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1222
Or in terms of events the Venus-Saturn paragraph here: https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=53 ... 1430#p1441

I'll read up on this as well! Thanks

You're welcome. - My big three what? Are you asking about my chart? I'm born October 10, 1954, 4:13 AM, Rochester, Indiana.

Yes, I was asking what your sun, moon and rising were. I see that you're a Libra - I love Libras, they're one of my favorite signs

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes, I was asking what your sun, moon and rising were. I see that you're a Libra - I love Libras, they're one of my favorite signs

That's in the Tropical zodiac, which I consider a complete fiction. In the Sidereal zodiac, my Sun is in Virgo, Moon in Aquarius, and Ascendant in Virgo. (But yes, that's Tropical Libra or, in any case, the sign opposite your Moon-sign, to which you would naturally be drawn.)