Sidus Natal Chart Analysis and Vocation Advice

[sidus_illuminans]

You may not want to spend your birthday in North Carolina: It brings a year of Saturn's transit to your Moon as your main feature.

If you like, I can see if there is somewhere else in the country that might make for a good birthday trip.

Hmm, I don't exactly have a surplus of funds, but if you think all info points to a miserable event I'd like to distance myself from that if possible. How far do I have to go to make a difference? I have family in Florida and Tennessee. Also, do you know the flavor of the event? It seems related to deep emotional turmoil. But yes, I would be very grateful for some advice on a good birthday location.

[Jim Eshelman]

It's not just an event - it's the entire tone of the 12 months from birthday to birthday. That's why we take solar returns so seriously. - There would be better spots and worse spots along the way, rising up and falling beneath the overall baseline of the year, which would lean negative.

Read the standard interpretation of transiting SATURN aspecting Natal MOON on this page: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=239&p=1616#p1621

Read Transiting Saturn Foreground here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=227#p1541

This isn't the entire thing of the chart for Raleigh (and the general area). Transiting Neptune is stronger than the Saturn. Here is a full breakdown of the relevant factors for the year if you have your birthday in or near Raleigh.

t Moon on IC -9°14'
t Neptune on Dsc -4°31'
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r Moon on IC +5°24'
t Saturn on Dsc +6°10'

t Saturn sq r Moon

It's more regional than a specific location. Neptune and Saturn bracket the entire eastern third (approximately) of the U.S. (broadly speaking, everything east of the Mississippi River). Just the other side of the river you get a Jupiter line that probably could be kept far enough away from the Saturn line with a little work. A second Jupiter lines swings a bit further as you go north. For example, Kansas City is exactly on a Jupiter line. *-- I recently flew to KC as the best spot for a lunar return - a month chart - instead of the terrible chart conditions in LA. I spent the entire day in the airport, never left the terminal (never had to pass through TSA again0, eating at a couple of great barbecue places, sitting and reading in quiet spaces, etc. - just flew in and out on a cheap airline. (It's one idea; though, of course, you could choose to get out and see what's in Kansas City.)

Looking closer, I don't know if I would pick that spot for you; that is, it's not a slam-dunk positive. However, if is significantly better on balance. Jupiter is 0°02' from an angle, though several other planets (including two natal malefics) are also close. Transiting Jupiter squares your Mars-Saturn, so would bring out the best in them (endurance, perseverance, gains from struggle, probably improving conditions on balance.) As long as I have the chart worked up, here is the charts for the KC airport (since I still have it saved in m program):

t Saturn on Dsc -6°21'
r Venus on EP -0°38'
t Jupiter on Z -0°02'
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r Saturn on Dsc +0°20'
r Mars on Z +0°25'

t Jupiter sq r Saturn 0°10'
t Jupiter co r Mars 0°26'
r Mars-Saturn sq 0°36'
r Venus-Mars sq 1°26'
r Venus-Saturn op 1°48' M
t Jupiter sq r Venus 1°56'

If this amount of travel is feasible and such ideas interest you, I can try to work it up with some other options - this is just one that jumped out at me. There aren't a lot of great places for your solar return this year and this may be the best there is (since the Jupiter lands so excruciatingly close to the angle).

[Jim Eshelman]

Here is a way to see how the planets line up (all conjunctions, oppositions, and squares on a 90° dial. The inside ring is your natal; the outside has the solar return planets. The idea is to move the angles to where they are closest (ideally, exact) to the most benefic aspects and miss the most malefic ones.

The lineup isn't easy this year. But here's the contrast: See Saturn on your Moon - exact to the minute of arc? For the southeast, the angles fall near that Saturn-on-Moon and even closer to the outer circle's Neptune.

There aren't a lot of good alternatives. I could have picked Mercury-Uranus on your Pluto, but that also brings Mars on your Pluto. I could try to split the difference of outer circle Venus and natal Jupiter, but that doesn't fall near angles anywhere in the continental U.S. - you'd need to try Sydney, Australia or the outermost Aleutians and western Alaska. The best shot I see is Jupiter on your Venus-Mars-Saturn which - with Jupiter truly exact to the angle - is ambitious and advantageous if you are willing to work and struggle for it - and perhaps even healing of some likely emotional wounds you're carrying from having a strong natal Venus-Mars-Saturn in the first place.

That's my thinking. If it's not feasible, then we change tactics to talking about how to make the best of a difficult year.

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[sidus_illuminans]

Read the standard interpretation of transiting SATURN aspecting Natal MOON on this page: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=239&p=1616#p1621

Read Transiting Saturn Foreground here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=227#p1541

Thank you for the links. I'm surprised that I haven't stumbled upon the Transiting Foreground page earlier.

It's not just an event - it's the entire tone of the 12 months from birthday to birthday. That's why we take solar returns so seriously. - There would be better spots and worse spots along the way, rising up and falling beneath the overall baseline of the year, which would lean negative.

I still haven't dug into SSRs very much, so forgive my ignorance on this. So SSRs set the tone for the year, but if my Saturn Square Moon transit is the main feature for the year how does relocating for only one day help me if the transit will be exerting pressure both before and after my birthday? If I return the next day wont I be walking back into the fire? That's why I initially thought you were simply emphasizing a single "event" on my birthday.

The best shot I see is Jupiter on your Venus-Mars-Saturn which - with Jupiter truly exact to the angle - is ambitious and advantageous if you are willing to work and struggle for it - and perhaps even healing of some likely emotional wounds you're carrying from having a strong natal Venus-Mars-Saturn in the first place.

If there is a risk that this year will be as bad as my 2009 near Springfield, MO, was for me then I am more than willing to consider traveling to reduce the negative effects.

I think this is different than what you were talking about, but would traveling directly to one of my Jupiter lines also help? For example, Chemnitz, Germany is right on my Jupiter DC line. (I offer this idea because I do not really understand how to experiment with aligning my Jupiter with my Venus-Mars-Saturn)


(Is there a page in the forum where you go more into how to create one of these wheels and experiment with different locations for a better SSR? I can do relocation charts with TMSA, but this is clearly a different concept. I don't want to ask you to explain the whole process when I'm sure you have it laid out somewhere already.)

[sidus_illuminans]

2009 was the year of my Saturn Opp Saturn transit. On the day I lost my mother in 2009 the transit with the tightest orb was Uranus Trine Pluto 0°00’. I know you typically advise sticking with hard aspects for transits, but seeing that this year I will have Uranus Opp Pluto 0°00 on July 2 with Saturn Square Moon 0°18’ is worrying. On July 19th the Uranus Opp Pluto transit will still be within 1°, and the Saturn Square Moon transit this year appears to be longer lasting in 2024 than it was for me in 2009 and its paired with a hard Uranus Opp Pluto.

[Jim Eshelman]

I still haven't dug into SSRs very much, so forgive my ignorance on this. So SSRs set the tone for the year, but if my Saturn Square Moon transit is the main feature for the year how does relocating for only one day help me if the transit will be exerting pressure both before and after my birthday? If I return the next day wont I be walking back into the fire? That's why I initially thought you were simply emphasizing a single "event" on my birthday.

The solar return imprints the moment it occurs. I think it is then invariable and does not relocated (e.g., back to your normal residence). As full disclosure, there are other astrologers who think it relocates to wherever you go, and others who think it is mostly the way it first sets up and only a little takes on the quality of other locations. Over years of watching, I can't go with the first view at all and only credit a small courtesy concession to the second. For all practical purposes, it seems to me that the solar return locks in exactly where it occurs and doesn't vary.

Lunar returns are different. I suppose it's the adaptability of Moon. Lunar returns seem strongest for where they occur AND also seem to take on the qualities of where one travels in the subsequent four weeks.

If there is a risk that this year will be as bad as my 2009 near Springfield, MO, was for me then I am more than willing to consider traveling to reduce the negative effects.

Do you mean the year beginning July 18, 2009. From your solar return, that would not have been a bad year. I'd have expected a better than average year. (In the larger scale of time, it was the exact year that Solar Arc Ascendant opposed your Mars and moved on to square your Saturn. We'd generally expect that to be one of the worst years of your life. Concurrently, solar arc Pluto squared your Venus so we'd expect this "worst year" to involve separations and personal losses.)

My pure transit, though, Saturn was square your Moon that year also - like this year.

I think this is different than what you were talking about, but would traveling directly to one of my Jupiter lines also help? For example, Chemnitz, Germany is right on my Jupiter DC line. (I offer this idea because I do not really understand how to experiment with aligning my Jupiter with my Venus-Mars-Saturn)

I think you mean a Jupiter line of your natal chart. That would apply only while you were there. What you want to look at is an astro-map for your solar return, not your natal. (I gave the exact date and time of the solar return earlier.)

Is there a page in the forum where you go more into how to create one of these wheels and experiment with different locations for a better SSR? I can do relocation charts with TMSA, but this is clearly a different concept. I don't want to ask you to explain the whole process when I'm sure you have it laid out somewhere already.

No. There are lots of examples, but no instruction. - I have a chapter on natal relocation, but I'm at least a year from writing the chapter on "astro-tourism" for Vol. II of the large work currently being written. It's pretty simple, though: Pick the location that emphasizes benefics, especially to within a few minutes, and de-emphasizes malefics. I try to place the benefics within 5'-10' of the angles. You might, for example, want to look at this thread where I'm planning my own next SSR: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8309

[sidus_illuminans]

The solar return imprints the moment it occurs. I think it is then invariable and does not relocated (e.g., back to your normal residence). As full disclosure, there are other astrologers who think it relocates to wherever you go, and others who think it is mostly the way it first sets up and only a little takes on the quality of other locations. Over years of watching, I can't go with the first view at all and only credit a small courtesy concession to the second. For all practical purposes, it seems to me that the solar return locks in exactly where it occurs and doesn't vary.

Hey Jim, I am trying to play around with my SSR on Astro.com using their Sidereal settings, but im struggling. I'll have to spend more time learning this stuff at a later point.

If you could recommend a good place to setup my SSR, I'd appreciate it. Also, do you think it would be better to create a new post in the SSR forum to keep this post from getting too chaotic?

[Jim Eshelman]

Do you like the description I gave of how the energies would likely work out for Kansas City.

[sidus_illuminans]

Do you like the description I gave of how the energies would likely work out for Kansas City.

Yes I do, thank you. However since you expressed doubt on whether that spot would be ideal for me I'd like to consider other options. It would be nice to have some options to choose from so that I can both setup a decent SSR and potentially enjoy my 30th bday somewhere interesting.

[Jim Eshelman]

I can't do this on the computer I keep at work (astro-mapping fails on that particular version of Solar Fire) so I'll try to carve out some time at home tonight. My recollection is that the Jupiter MC line was just a bit west of the Mississippi [the longitude a little east of Little Rock] and felt too close to the Saturn lines, especially in southern areas like Louisiana; and the Jupiter Zenith line curved farther west (a little) as it moved north, with the only significant city I saw exactly on the line being Kansas City. (That's why it jumped out at me.)

The approach would be to follow the Jupiter line, pick a place, then cross-check the location to make sure that no undesirable factors crept in at a particular latitude, such as your natal malefics being slightly more angular or the development of mundane aspects that only exist at certain latitudes. Time Matters (TMSA) is the best program to spot check individual locations because it automatically analyzes all angularities by mundane positions, filters in and out the aspects that actually matter (Moon aspect and foreground aspects) and includes mundane aspects alongside ecliptical ones.

[Jim Eshelman]

I managed to cobble together an image of the Jupiter line. I'll leave it here a while before I delete it for storage reasons. Jupiter on Zenith is the white line. You want to be exactly on the line if possible. (I see I'd missed Fargo.)

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[sidus_illuminans]

Checking Kansas City in TMSA reveals that Mars and Saturn are right on the angles for me there. May not be a good place to be aside from the Jupiter on the angle for the SSR...

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 257°55' 20S40 113°44' - 3°45'   4° 6'  95% A 
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119° 3' 20N45 269°28' +34°51' 214°51'  33%   
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°18' 21N14 282°49' +18°22' 198°49'  61%   
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 161°41'  8N54 214° 0' +55°28' 248°57'  84%  b
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  69°42' 21N56 299°47' - 1° 6' 178°44' 100% D 
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°20' 12S13 142° 4' +30°13' 316°33'  12%  b
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 343°57'  8S51  30°20' -56°21'  71°25' 100% N 
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°15' 21S47  92°14' -33°15'  33°16'  36%   
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°28' 21S 4  93°13' -30°41'  30°44'  40%   
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°22'  5S24 117°14' +21°55' 335°40'   9%  b
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And at Fargo, ND my Mars is in the foreground.

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Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  69°42' 21N56 298° 6' + 4° 7' 184°39'  94% D

[Jim Eshelman]

I mentioned that above. Those are NATAL Mars and Saturn transited by Jupiter (and Jupiter is exact almost to the minute). You will get them anywhere you get the Jupiter. I discussed probable meaning of that above.

You may not want to do this, but i don't think there is a better place on Earth for this particular return other than, perhaps, Sydney, Australia (which, if have the interest and resource to travel that far, is as good as one could ever expect from a chart).

[sidus_illuminans]

I mentioned that above. Those are NATAL Mars and Saturn transited by Jupiter (and Jupiter is exact almost to the minute). You will get them anywhere you get the Jupiter. I discussed probable meaning of that above.

Sorry about that. Sometimes I have to see info in a different way before it clicks, but after looking through your presentations on SSRs I have a basic understanding of the fundamentals now. I figured out how to cast SSRs in Janus 6 and can pair that with TMSA for checking natal angularity. But I still don't know how to generate the Jupiter lines for my SSR onto a map like you did to help with the initial search.

You may not want to do this, but i don't think there is a better place on Earth for this particular return other than, perhaps, Sydney, Australia (which, if have the interest and resource to travel that far, is as good as one could ever expect from a chart).

Plane tickets are averaging $2500 and I cant afford that right now. I imagine closer to the date will be even more expensive. I think I will have to simply work with what I have and persevere as usual. So I will likely spend my 2024 SSR in either Raleigh or Asheville NC. In Asheville Saturn moves closer to the angle than in Raleigh, but Neptune backs off and becomes roughly as angular as Jupiter it seems. If I had to pick between the two, which do you think would be better?

Switching gears to trying to make the best of this upcoming year, what are your suggestions? I was going to try and go back to school this fall for something that aligns more with my chart and personal interests (and career assessments), but should I hold off?

[sidus_illuminans]

Looking at my SSRs for the next few years for NC and they don't look so great either. I keep seeing a pattern of Mars, Saturn, Venus, Neptune near the angles alone or in combination with one another. Maybe what I really need to focus on is permanent relocation...

[sidus_illuminans]

Jim, I have a radical idea that I would like your opinion on: 2024 SSR in Osaka, Japan. (I could perhaps refine the specific city a bit later)
Pluto-Sun-Uranus on the angles.

Relocated chart for Osaka, Japan:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 257°55' 20S40 292°58' -62° 6' 116° 0'  48%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119° 3' 20N45  83°39' +28°51' 331° 0'   0%  b
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°18' 21N14  95°29' +46°57' 312°55'  19%  b
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 161°41'  8N54  70°15' -11°52'  12°35'  71%   
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  69°42' 21N56 122° 7' +68°53' 288° 7'  62%   
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°20' 12S13  38°53' -62°40'  72° 1'  35%   
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 343°57'  8S51 248°51' +13°39' 194°35'  68%   
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°15' 21S47 264° 3' -31°39' 148°13'   0%  b
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°28' 21S 4 266°16' -33°35' 146°22'   1%  b
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°22'  5S24 348° 9' -60°12'  96°42'  98% N 
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Japan is the one place I have been drawn to for over a decade, and I just so happen to have a good friend living in Osaka. I would be willing to splurge on this location and take the risk, especially since I have never visited. (I also happen to be fluent in Japanese.)

[Jim Eshelman]

But I still don't know how to generate the Jupiter lines for my SSR onto a map like you did to help with the initial search.

That was done on Solar Fire. I'm told you can get the same on Astro.com, but I've never used the site so I can't help past that.

I think I will have to simply work with what I have and persevere as usual. So I will likely spend my 2024 SSR in either Raleigh or Asheville NC. In Asheville Saturn moves closer to the angle than in Raleigh, but Neptune backs off and becomes roughly as angular as Jupiter it seems. If I had to pick between the two, which do you think would be better?

Ashville has Saturn strongest of all. It's both closer to Descendant (Raleigh 6°10', i.e., 23°50' in the 6th House vs. Ashville 2°59', or 27°01' in the 6th House; but, even closer, notice that Saturn in Ashville is shown as on the Westpoint in right Ascension and has a 100% strength score vs. Raleigh having a 90% strength score: For Ashville, the RA of Westpoint is 350°01' while that of Saturn is 350°48', only 0°47' away.

Ashville also brings a mundane natal Mars-Saturn square into the foreground, only 0°16' wide. This aspect also exists in the Raleigh chart, but Mars isn't foreground so the aspect mostly doesn't count. The only advantage I see if the fairly brutal Ashville chart is that Jupiter's squares to your Mars Saturn are foreground - but barely. Since Jupiter is 9° from an angle, it's foreground quality is about as weak as a foreground state can be. (Strength 80%, with the foreground drop-off at 75%.)

If I had to pick one or the other, I'd pick Raleigh.

Switching gears to trying to make the best of this upcoming year, what are your suggestions?

Understand it is a year of work, struggling against limits you haven't confronted before, and a lot of solitude. Plan to hurl yourself into work with little pause. Despite this, make sure you have a solid, reliable (and not necessarily wide) social support network. These planets are prone to deep, negative emotional states, so don't let those run away from you. Read up on steps you can take to protect your psychological well-being and practice these. Since there is likely to be loss (especially emotional loss), make choices that have you voluntarily sacrificing things in ways that make you feel positive about yourself, so that you don't feel things are being stolen from you.

Here is another post I wrote someone else on the forum a while back. It doesn't exactly fit your case - not as squarely as what I just wrote - but you may find things of value:
https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?p=57650#p57651

Mostly understand that things aren't as bad as your fantasies make them seem, and these effects are time bound. They will end in twelve months.

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim, I have a radical idea that I would like your opinion on: 2024 SSR in Osaka, Japan. (I could perhaps refine the specific city a bit later)
Pluto-Sun-Uranus on the angles.

Actually, you missed what's really happening there. It's a great chart! I think you're missing this because you're only looking at natal planets on angles rather than including transiting (SSR) planets. - Is this perchance your natal chart relocated instead of your solar return?

The three planets closest to the angles are all benefics: transiting Venus 1°36' from Nadir (i.e., lower square to Asc), and natal Jupiter 2°30' below Descendant, and natal Uranus 2°18' from MC. Joining these three benefics is is Sun, 2°21' from IC. This (with one more widely foreground planet) produces the following three foreground aspects (all made of natal planets, two of which form a mundane aspect you don't have at birth):

r Jupiter-Uranus sq 0°12' M
r Uranus-Neptune co 2°26'
r Sun-Uranus op 2°46'

We could probably refine it a little by moving the setting Jupiter as close to Descendant as possible. - No wait, the exact Jupiter line is north of the northern Japanese islands; but you could get an exact Sun line (feeling yourself innately glowing and in the driver's seat of your life) at, say, Nagoya, picking up a minor Uranus-Pluto mundane square along the way:

t Uranus on Asc -8°56'
t Pluto on MC -7°48'
r Sun on IC -0°03'
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r Jupiter on Dsc +3°45'
r Uranus on MC +4°43'
r Neptune on MC +9°14'

r Jupiter-Uranus sq 0°57' M
t Uranus-Pluto sq 1°08' M
r Uranus-Neptune co 2°26'
r Sun-Uranus op 2°46'
t Pluto op r Sun 3°32'

[sidus_illuminans]

Actually, you missed what's really happening there. It's a great chart! I think you're missing this because you're only looking at natal planets on angles rather than including transiting (SSR) planets. - Is this perchance your natal chart relocated instead of your solar return?

The TMSA portion is for the relocated just to put out there what I have going on locally. This is what I am seeing in Janus for the Osaka SSR:

(sorry for how large the pic is)

I'm excited that this location is looking good. When I first created a local chart for Japan a while back I decided to steer clear because the local Pluto line was intimidating.

[Jim Eshelman]

I get the same within a very few minutes difference on the angles. For that location, transiting Uranus and Pluto aren't close enough to matter (though in other locations nearby they are). Pluto is just over 10° east of MC and Uranus just over 10°below Asc, measured in prime vertical longitude.

Here is the TMSA breakdown of foreground planets and relevant aspects for Osaka:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 343°18' -34°26' 112°45'  92% N 
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                            Radical Planets                             
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 181°32' +33°34' 267°42'  99% M 
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 358°22' -34°36'  92°21'  98% I 
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 256°38' - 2°26' 177°30'  98% D 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 184°41' +34°10' 263° 8'  88% M 
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rJu sq rUr  0°12'100% M
rUr co rNe  2°26' 75%
rSu op rUr  2°46' 68%

[sidus_illuminans]

I get the same within a very few minutes difference on the angles. For that location, transiting Uranus and Pluto aren't close enough to matter (though in other locations nearby they are). Pluto is just over 10° east of MC and Uranus just over 10°below Asc, measured in prime vertical longitude.

Here is the TMSA breakdown of foreground planets and relevant aspects for Osaka:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 343°18' -34°26' 112°45'  92% N 
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Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 181°32' +33°34' 267°42'  99% M 
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 358°22' -34°36'  92°21'  98% I 
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 256°38' - 2°26' 177°30'  98% D 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 184°41' +34°10' 263° 8'  88% M 
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rJu sq rUr  0°12'100% M
rUr co rNe  2°26' 75%
rSu op rUr  2°46' 68%

Thank you for this info Jim!
Was I calculating the relocated chart incorrectly in TMSA or am I interpreting that Pluto angularity figure wrong?
I am not sure how you calculated those Radical Planets in TMSA, but so long as they are good I am happy. Would you please provide the one for Nagoya as well? I am planning my trip as we speak.

[Jim Eshelman]

I gave the breakdown of angularity and aspects for Nagoya above.

I wonder if the confusion in the natal planets is that you are comparing them to the natal angles. All natal and transiting planets are taken against the solar return angles (in the framework of the SSR).

I don't know what you're missing. My Guess is you are thinking of angularity in terms of angular houses rather than tight (mundane) conjunctions with the angles themselves.

[Jim Eshelman]

I am not sure how you calculated those Radical Planets in TMSA, but so long as they are good I am happy. Would you please provide the one for Nagoya as well? I am planning my trip as we speak.

I had a few minutes, so here is the SSR for Nagoya:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Mo  8Sg45'24"  5S 1 +13°42' 274°21' 28S24 203°46' +22° 9' 225°17'  14%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0S 0 +57'14" 119°29' 20N40 359°58' -34° 8'  90° 3' 100% I 
Me 29Cn 6'31"  0S25 + 1° 4' 146°21' 13N 4 327°16' -35°27' 127°14'  29%   
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 344°57' -34°17' 110°51'  57%   
Ma  4Ta 3'28"  0S45 +41'40"  57° 6' 19N14  58° 3' - 9°41'  11°22'  73%   
Ju 16Ta59'36"  0S41 +11'47"  70°41' 21N33  46°58' -16°49'  22°27'  54%   
Sa 24Aq 1'22"  2S 4 - 1'55" 350°48'  6S12 119°54' +26°27' 330° 9'   0%   
Ur  1Ta23' 9"  0S16 + 2' 4"  54°13' 19N 7  59°59' - 7°45'   8°56'  80% A 
Ne  4Pi46'11"  1S18 - 0'33"   0°23'  1S15 108°49' +22°37' 336°14'  10%   
Pl  5Cp52'23"  3S13 - 1'25" 303°56' 23S 5 175°10' +31°35' 277°48'  84% M 
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                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 258°21' 20S42 221°31' +21°52' 211°12'  39%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 359°58' -34° 8'  90° 3' 100% I 
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°44' 21N13  23°28' -29°57'  55°21'   1%   
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 162° 5'  8N45 309° 5' -30°27' 142°52'   3%   
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  70° 8' 21N59  47° 4' -16° 9'  21°35'  56%   
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 257°27' - 3°40' 176°15'  96% D 
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 344°21'  8S42 127° 5' +29° 2' 325°10'   2%   
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 183° 4' +33° 3' 265°17'  94% M 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 186°14' +33°34' 260°43'  78% M 
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°46'  5S29 248°54' +18°33' 199°46'  59%   
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    Class 1 Aspects         Class 2 Aspects      Other Partile Aspects  
tUr sq tPl  1° 8' 98% M tSu op tPl  3°32' 48%                           
----------------------   ----------------------                         
tSu op rUr  2°46' 68%   tMo op rMe  3°23' 52%                           
----------------------  tPl op rSu  3°32' 48%                           
rSu op rUr  2°46' 68%                                                   
rJu sq rUr  0°57' 98% M                                                 
rUr co rNe  2°26' 75%

It might be easier for you if you have the ecliptical approximations for comparison:

27°09' Sag - r Neptune [+9°17']
29°35' Sag - r Uranus [+4°43']
2°19' Cap - SSR Midheaven
2°21' Can - r Sun [-0°03']
5°53' Cap - t Pluto [-7°48']

10°34' Lib - r Jupiter [+3°46']
18°25' Ari - SSR Ascendant
1°23' Tau - t Uranus [-8°56']

[sidus_illuminans]

It might be easier for you if you have the ecliptical approximations for comparison:

27°09' Sag - r Neptune [+9°17']
29°35' Sag - r Uranus [+4°43']
2°19' Cap - SSR Midheaven
2°21' Can - r Sun [-0°03']
5°53' Cap - t Pluto [-7°48']

10°34' Lib - r Jupiter [+3°46']
18°25' Ari - SSR Ascendant
1°23' Tau - t Uranus [-8°56']

Thanks Jim, I appreciate it.
For SSRs, transiting planets and the natal/radical planets on the angles are to be considered, right? Not just the transiting ones? In the case of Nagoya it looks like I would lose that transiting Venus that Osaka has, and natal Jupiter's angle becomes wider in Nagoya as well. In my amateur view it seems the Osaka SSR is more balanced overall. Or would bringing the Sun right on the angle in Nagoya prove to be an overriding positive?

I figured out how to use TMSA to generate the same SSR data you provided earlier. I noticed that the SSRs for the next few years in Osaka are quite good. 2028 and 2029 not so great, but things get back on track in 2030. Jupiter is nearly always close to the angle in the radical planet section. Would you say that Osaka or a nearby city could be a good candidate for long term relocation, astrologically speaking?

[Jim Eshelman]

For SSRs, transiting planets and the natal/radical planets on the angles are to be considered, right? Not just the transiting ones?

Yes.

In the case of Nagoya it looks like I would lose that transiting Venus that Osaka has, and natal Jupiter's angle becomes wider in Nagoya as well. In my amateur view it seems the Osaka SSR is more balanced overall. Or would bringing the Sun right on the angle in Nagoya prove to be an overriding positive?

Those Osaka placements are wider. (Not too wide, but wider.) In picking a location, the best strategy isn't balance, it's to overwhelm the entire chart with something as close to 0°00' as possible. You can't get that with Venus or Jupiter in Japan but you can get it with Sun. (I try to keep the target planet within 0°05' or, at worst, within 0°10'.)

So yeah, you'd have a little more Venus and a little more Jupiter - both moderate strength - at a time that transiting Saturn is 0°00' from conjunct your Moon. The Venus and Jupiter would hardly be felt. Figuratively (not literally), you'd get a little softening equivalent to, "Thank God he only lost one hand instead of both arms." The intensity of factor spikes enormously as they zero in on the last few minutes of being precise.

Would you say that Osaka or a nearby city could be a good candidate for long term relocation, astrologically speaking?

Do you mean just for your natal? The only thing angular is natal Pluto 1°44' from Nadir. That's moderately close (moderately strong) and a neutral planet, neither inherently kind nor harsh. I suspect the main effect would be a sense of having cut ties with your life and relationships up to that point and leaving them behind you like a shed skin.

[sidus_illuminans]

Those Osaka placements are wider. (Not too wide, but wider.) In picking a location, the best strategy isn't balance, it's to overwhelm the entire chart with something as close to 0°00' as possible. You can't get that with Venus or Jupiter in Japan but you can get it with Sun. (I try to keep the target planet within 0°05' or, at worst, within 0°10'.)

So yeah, you'd have a little more Venus and a little more Jupiter - both moderate strength - at a time that transiting Saturn is 0°00' from conjunct your Moon. The Venus and Jupiter would hardly be felt. Figuratively (not literally), you'd get a little softening equivalent to, "Thank God he only lost one hand instead of both arms." The intensity of factor spikes enormously as they zero in on the last few minutes of being precise.

Ah, I see. Interesting. Thank you for clarifying. Well, in that case it sounds like it is in my best interest to try to be in Nagoya during my SSR. Already have tickets booked to visit Osaka, but Nagoya is only a short train ride away.

Do you mean just for your natal? The only thing angular is natal Pluto 1°44' from Nadir. That's moderately close (moderately strong) and a neutral planet, neither inherently kind nor harsh. I suspect the main effect would be a sense of having cut ties with your life and relationships up to that point and leaving them behind you like a shed skin.

Well from the natal perspective paired with SSRs attainable there.
For each SSR until at least 2030 Osaka, or nearby cities, Jupiter is always very close to an angle in the Radical chart. Some years it is directly on the angle. Comparing that to where I currently live Cary/Raleigh, it seems like a generally wonderful change of theme. This past SSR in Cary wasn't too bad, but most years some pattern of angular Saturn-Mars-Venus is prominent. My 2025 SSR in Raleigh looks even worse than this years. While I would ideally like to be on a Jupiter line, those countries would be very difficult for me to relocate to under my current life circumstances. But I have several ties in Japan and know the language, so I think I could work something out. Perhaps being close to the Pluto line paired with the consistently good SSRs in the Kansai region could help me transform my life in a positive way?

[Jim Eshelman]

Incorporating predictive techniques into this would turn this into a full time job for a week or more - more than I'm willing to do. You'd need to compare at least the solar returns, transits across angles, progressions in a couple of ways, transits to some of the progressed elements, directions against two locations - and then contrast that to where you live now or other alternate locations. - That's a lot of work.

I wouldn't even do that for myself. If I were planning a move that big, I'd check my relocated natal to make sure it's where I'd like to live forever, check my next SSR to make sure I wasn't flying into a hurricane, mentally note that if it's transiting Pluto or Neptune on an angle, it will likely recur forever (everything else changes rapidly year-to-year), make a mental note that SSR angles gradually move across all natal factors in rotation in the course of a decade, and remember that I'm probably going to travel every year to an ideal location for my birthday anyway.

[sidus_illuminans]

Incorporating predictive techniques into this would turn this into a full time job for a week or more - more than I'm willing to do. You'd need to compare at least the solar returns, transits across angles, progressions in a couple of ways, transits to some of the progressed elements, directions against two locations - and then contrast that to where you live now or other alternate locations. - That's a lot of work.

Ah, okay, I did not realize so many variables were involved. I absolutely don't expect all that from you. It seems I was over simplifying, but I am gradually becoming more independent with all this. Your corrections and pointers have been of great help.

I wouldn't even do that for myself. If I were planning a move that big, I'd check my relocated natal to make sure it's where I'd like to live forever, check my next SSR to make sure I wasn't flying into a hurricane, mentally note that if it's transiting Pluto or Neptune on an angle, it will likely recur forever (everything else changes rapidly year-to-year), make a mental note that SSR angles gradually move across all natal factors in rotation in the course of a decade, and remember that I'm probably going to travel every year to an ideal location for my birthday anyway.

Noted. Thank you for sharing these points of consideration. I'll do my best to work it out. Thanks again Jim!

[Jim Eshelman]

SSR MC for a given location increases 92c or right ascension every year. That means that this year's Eastpoint + 2° is essentially next year's MC. (Almost the same as saying the angles rotate a quarter turn +2° per year.) Against this this, Ascendant has it's own back and forth path greater than then less than (etc.) the square to MC.

With this in mind, note that Neptune and Pluto move (once all the retrograde loops are averaged out) about 2°/year! That means that once one is on the MC/EP/IC/WP set, they tend to stay there forever.

[sidus_illuminans]

We could probably refine it a little by moving the setting Jupiter as close to Descendant as possible. - No wait, the exact Jupiter line is north of the northern Japanese islands; but you could get an exact Sun line (feeling yourself innately glowing and in the driver's seat of your life) at, say, Nagoya, picking up a minor Uranus-Pluto mundane square along the way:

t Uranus on Asc -8°56'
t Pluto on MC -7°48'
r Sun on IC -0°03'
------------------------
r Jupiter on Dsc +3°45'
r Uranus on MC +4°43'
r Neptune on MC +9°14'

r Jupiter-Uranus sq 0°57' M
t Uranus-Pluto sq 1°08' M
r Uranus-Neptune co 2°26'
r Sun-Uranus op 2°46'
t Pluto op r Sun 3°32'

Jim, while doing some more calculating I discovered that there actually is a city where I can put Jupiter right on the angle for my 2024 SSR: Okayama, Japan. Venus and Uranus are right on the angles as well. Its the full set.

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Mo  8Sg45'24"  5S 1 +13°42' 274°21' 28S24 201°12' +23°35' 230°21'   6%  b
Su  2Cn20'33"  0S 0 +57'14" 119°29' 20N40 356°35' -34°36'  94°57'  93% I 
Me 29Cn 6'30"  0S25 + 1° 4' 146°21' 13N 4 323°56' -34°30' 130°35'  24%  b
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 341°33' -34° 5' 115° 4' 100% N 
Ma  4Ta 3'28"  0S45 +41'40"  57° 6' 19N14  56°11' -12° 1'  14°23'  68%   
Ju 16Ta59'36"  0S41 +11'47"  70°41' 21N33  44°50' -18°56'  25°57'  48%   
Sa 24Aq 1'22"  2S 4 - 1'55" 350°48'  6S12 117°24' +24°33' 332°46'   2%  b
Ur  1Ta23' 9"  0S16 + 2' 4"  54°13' 19N 7  58° 9' -10° 7'  11°52'  72%   
Ne  4Pi46'12"  1S18 - 0'33"   0°23'  1S15 106°37' +20°27' 338°44'  19%  b
Pl  5Cp52'23"  3S13 - 1'25" 303°56' 23S 5 171°55' +31°50' 282°45'  71%   
Er  0Ar24'41" 10S51 + 0' 1"  27°34'  0S15  89°36' - 1° 2'   1° 2' 100% A 
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                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 258°21' 20S42 219°10' +23°51' 215° 0'  33%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 356°35' -34°36'  94°57'  93% I 
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°44' 21N13  20°32' -31°22'  60° 5'   0%  b
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 162° 5'  8N45 306°17' -28°51' 145°39'   1%  b
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  70° 8' 21N59  44°57' -18°17'  25° 4'  50%   
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 255°45' - 1°10' 178°48' 100% D 
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 344°21'  8S42 124°23' +27°22' 327°55'   0%  b
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 179°46' +33°38' 270°21' 100% M 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 182°54' +34°18' 265°45'  95% M 
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°46'  5S29 247° 3' +21° 1' 202°38'  54%   
Er 23Pi51'56" 16S37 - 0' 3"  23°47'  7S58  98° 6' - 2°19'   2°20'  99% A 
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If you have the choice between putting the Sun on an angle or benefics, you would generally suggest going with the benefics, right? In my case this would mean choosing Okayama over Nagoya for my 2024 SSR. But I wonder, are there circumstances where you might choose the location with the Sun on the angle instead? In Nagoya both Transiting and Radical Sun are on the angle, so I understand Sun themes are very strong in that SSR which could be very beneficial. In Okayama the Sun is still decently strong, just nowhere near as emphasized. What are your thoughts?

P.S. I just bought your recent book, Handbook of Sidereal Natal Interpretations. I'm excited to dig into it!

[Jim Eshelman]

I would generally suggest the benefics over the Sun (though Sun alone is quite excellent if not juggling concurrent malefic angularities or Moon aspects), though I also give heavy priority to whatever you can get the closest orbs especially less than 5-10' from the angles.

I hope you enjoy the book!

I think you are using slightly different coordinate for Okayama than I am - not enough to make a practical difference - TM pulls up 34N51'29" 133E46'33" from whatever db it's using. I get the following, which is quite good. (I'm not crazy about the Neptune but it really doesn't do much.) All foreground aspects are between natal planets:

r Sun on IC -5°12'
t Venus on N -0°37'
r Uranus on MC -0°35'
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r Jupiter on Dsc +1°08'
r Neptune on MC +4°02'

r Jupiter-Uranus sq 1°44' M
r Uranus-Neptune sq 2°26'
r Sun-Uranus op 2°46'
r Jupiter-Neptune sq 2°54' M

[sidus_illuminans]

r Sun on IC -5°12'
t Venus on N -0°37'
r Uranus on MC -0°35'
-----------------------------
r Jupiter on Dsc +1°08'
r Neptune on MC +4°02'

Hey Jim, how do you generate the above data? Do you know if there is a way I can calculate the same data in Janus 6? I have been searching around for tutorials but cant find how to generate this. I'd like to experiment with getting some of those planets into tighter orbs on my own.

I think you are using slightly different coordinate for Okayama than I am - not enough to make a practical difference - TM pulls up 34N51'29" 133E46'33" from whatever db it's using. I get the following, which is quite good. (I'm not crazy about the Neptune but it really doesn't do much.) All foreground aspects are between natal planets:

I just grabbed the coordinates from wikipedia.

[Jim Eshelman]

Those are obtainable from the Prime Vertical Longitude (PVL() column in the Time Matters excerpt you posted. PVL is the same as the Mundoscope positions, with Asc at 0°, IC 90°, Dsc 180°, and MC 270°. In the excerpt you posted, we find:

r Sun 94°57' - which is 4°57' before 90° (IC)
r Jupiter 178°48' - which is 1°12' past 180° (Dsc)
r Uranus 270°21' - which is 0°21' before 270° (MC)

Etc.

Janus does have a way to display a chart in prime vertical longitude, though TM does it in every chart automatically.

[sidus_illuminans]

Those are obtainable from the Prime Vertical Longitude (PVL() column in the Time Matters excerpt you posted. PVL is the same as the Mundoscope positions, with Asc at 0°, IC 90°, Dsc 180°, and MC 270°. In the excerpt you posted, we find:

r Sun 94°57' - which is 4°57' before 90° (IC)
r Jupiter 178°48' - which is 1°12' past 180° (Dsc)
r Uranus 270°21' - which is 0°21' before 270° (MC)

Etc.

Janus does have a way to display a chart in prime vertical longitude, though TM does it in every chart automatically.

Okay, that makes complete sense, thank you. But do minor angles like Nadir and Zenith work the same? Venus on the Nadir has been acting like a moving target as I try to narrow in on it.

[Jim Eshelman]

Nadir and Zenith contacts are ecliptical squares to Ascendant.

Eastpoint and Westpoint are the ecliptical squares to MC and also are taken in RA.

[sidus_illuminans]

I put Natal Jupiter right on the Descendant in Hiroshima. Exact coordinates: 34°23′29″N 132°32′00″E. Unfortunately it also brings Neptune within 2° of the MC.

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Mo  8Sg45'24"  5S 1 +13°42' 274°21' 28S24 199°59' +24°13' 232°47'   4%  b
Su  2Cn20'33"  0S 0 +57'14" 119°29' 20N40 355° 0' -34°47'  97°10'  87% I 
Me 29Cn 6'30"  0S25 + 1° 4' 146°21' 13N 4 322°25' -34° 2' 132° 5'  20%  b
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 339°59' -33°57' 116°57'  88% N 
Ma  4Ta 3'28"  0S45 +41'40"  57° 6' 19N14  55°18' -13° 6'  15°49'  66%   
Ju 16Ta59'36"  0S41 +11'47"  70°41' 21N33  43°49' -19°55'  27°37'  45%   
Sa 24Aq 1'22"  2S 4 - 1'55" 350°48'  6S12 116°17' +23°39' 333°58'   4%  b
Ur  1Ta23' 9"  0S16 + 2' 4"  54°13' 19N 7  57°18' -11°13'  13°16'  70%   
Ne  4Pi46'12"  1S18 - 0'33"   0°23'  1S15 105°38' +19°26' 339°53'  24%  b
Pl  5Cp52'23"  3S13 - 1'25" 303°56' 23S 5 170°25' +31°55' 284°58'  67%   
Er  0Ar24'41" 10S51 + 0' 1"  27°34'  0S15  88°49' - 2°11'   2°11'  99% A 
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                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 258°21' 20S42 218° 3' +24°46' 216°49'  30%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 355° 0' -34°47'  97°10'  87% I 
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°44' 21N13  19° 9' -32° 0'  62°18'   1%  b
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 162° 5'  8N45 305° 1' -28° 4' 146°56'   1%  b
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  70° 8' 21N59  43°58' -19°16'  26°44'  47%   
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 254°58' + 0° 0' 180° 0' 100% D 
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 344°21'  8S42 123°10' +26°33' 329°10'   0%  b
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 178°13' +33°53' 272°39'  98% M 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 181°21' +34°36' 268° 3'  99% M 
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°46'  5S29 246°11' +22°10' 204° 0'  52%   
Er 23Pi51'56" 16S37 - 0' 3"  23°47'  7S58  97°20' - 3°25'   3°26'  99% Ea
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    Class 1 Aspects      Other Partile Aspects                          
tSu sq tEr  1°56' 93%   tVe sq tJu  0°40' 99% M                         
----------------------  tMa sq tPl  0°51' 99% M                         
tSu op rUr  2°46' 85%    ----------------------                         
tEr sq rSu  1°56' 93%   tVe sq rMa  0°13'100% M                         
tEr op rJu  2°10' 91% M tJu co rMa  0°26'100%                           
tEr sq rUr  0°28'100% M tJu sq rSa  0°10'100%                           
tEr co rEr  1°16' 97% M tSa sq rMo  0° 0'100%                           
----------------------  tUr op rPl  0°42' 99%                           
rSu op rUr  2°46' 85%    ----------------------                         
rJu sq rUr  2°39' 86% M rMa sq rSa  0°36' 99%                           
rJu sq rNe  1°58' 93% M                                                 
rUr co rNe  2°26' 89%                                                   
rUr sq rEr  0°47' 99% M                                                 
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Natal Uranus exactly on the MC on a beach near Okayama (34°36′00″N 134°07′30″E). The sweet spot for Uranus is anywhere on 134°07′30″E.

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Mo  8Sg45'24"  5S 1 +13°42' 274°21' 28S24 201°24' +23°34' 230° 5'   7%  b
Su  2Cn20'33"  0S 0 +57'14" 119°29' 20N40 356°49' -34°40'  94°36'  94% I 
Me 29Cn 6'30"  0S25 + 1° 4' 146°21' 13N 4 324° 8' -34°39' 130°18'  24%  b
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 341°46' -34°11' 114°44' 100% N 
Ma  4Ta 3'28"  0S45 +41'40"  57° 6' 19N14  56°20' -11°54'  14°13'  68%   
Ju 16Ta59'36"  0S41 +11'47"  70°41' 21N33  45° 0' -18°51'  25°46'  49%   
Sa 24Aq 1'22"  2S 4 - 1'55" 350°48'  6S12 117°32' +24°44' 332°33'   2%  b
Ur  1Ta23' 9"  0S16 + 2' 4"  54°13' 19N 7  58°18' -10° 0'  11°43'  72%   
Ne  4Pi46'12"  1S18 - 0'33"   0°23'  1S15 106°44' +20°38' 338°32'  19%  b
Pl  5Cp52'23"  3S13 - 1'25" 303°56' 23S 5 172° 9' +31°54' 282°23'  71%   
Er  0Ar24'41" 10S51 + 0' 1"  27°34'  0S15  89°43' - 0°52'   0°52' 100% A 
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                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 258°21' 20S42 219°21' +23°47' 214°48'  33%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 356°49' -34°40'  94°36'  94% I 
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°44' 21N13  20°46' -31°21'  59°48'   0%  b
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 162° 5'  8N45 306°26' -29° 1' 145°25'   1%  b
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  70° 8' 21N59  45° 8' -18°12'  24°53'  50%   
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 255°52' - 1°19' 178°39'  99% D 
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 344°21'  8S42 124°31' +27°32' 327°41'   0%  b
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 180° 0' +33°41' 270° 0' 100% M 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 183° 9' +34°21' 265°25'  94% M 
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°46'  5S29 247°12' +20°52' 202°28'  54%   
Er 23Pi51'56" 16S37 - 0' 3"  23°47'  7S58  98°13' - 2° 8'   2°10'  99% A 
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    Class 1 Aspects      Other Partile Aspects                          
tSu sq tEr  1°56' 93%   tUr sq tPl  0°40' 99% M                         
----------------------   ----------------------                         
tSu op rUr  2°46' 85%   tVe sq rMa  0° 9'100% M                         
tSu sq rEr  2°26' 89% M tJu co rMa  0°26'100%                           
tEr sq rSu  1°56' 93%   tJu sq rSa  0°10'100%                           
tEr op rJu  2°13' 90% M tSa sq rMo  0° 0'100%                           
tEr sq rUr  0°50' 99%   tUr op rPl  0°42' 99%                           
tEr co rEr  1°18' 97% M  ----------------------                         
----------------------  rMa sq rSa  0°36' 99%                           
rSu op rUr  2°46' 85%                                                   
rSu sq rEr  2°26' 89% M                                                 
rJu sq rUr  1°22' 96% M                                                 
rUr co rNe  2°26' 89%                                                   
rUr sq rEr  2°10' 91% M                                                 
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While we've already found a good place for the Sun on the IC, I discovered that a village I've been wanting to visit for years has my Sun just 0°02' of the IC (36°15'35", 136°54'27").

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Mo  8Sg45'24"  5S 1 +13°42' 274°21' 28S24 203°37' +21°10' 224° 2'  16%  b
Su  2Cn20'33"  0S 0 +57'14" 119°29' 20N40 359°59' -33° 4'  90° 2' 100% I 
Me 29Cn 6'30"  0S25 + 1° 4' 146°21' 13N 4 327°41' -34°32' 127°51'  28%   
Ve 14Cn40'44"  1N22 + 1°14' 132°35' 19N 7 345° 9' -33°15' 111°22'  56%   
Ma  4Ta 3'28"  0S45 +41'40"  57° 6' 19N14  57°55' - 9° 6'  10°42'  74%   
Ju 16Ta59'36"  0S41 +11'47"  70°41' 21N33  46°44' -16° 4'  21°35'  56%   
Sa 24Aq 1'22"  2S 4 - 1'55" 350°48'  6S12 120°22' +25°55' 330°37'   0%  b
Ur  1Ta23' 9"  0S16 + 2' 4"  54°13' 19N 7  59°52' - 7°12'   8°19'  82% A 
Ne  4Pi46'12"  1S18 - 0'33"   0°23'  1S15 109°15' +22°17' 336°32'  11%  b
Pl  5Cp52'23"  3S13 - 1'25" 303°56' 23S 5 175°14' +30°30' 278° 2'  83% M 
Er  0Ar24'41" 10S51 + 0' 1"  27°34'  0S15  91°20' + 1°23' 358°37'  99% A 
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                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 24Sc 1'28"  2N18 +14°18' 258°21' 20S42 221°14' +21° 3' 210°17'  41%   
Su  2Cn20'33"  0N 0 +57'15" 119°29' 20N40 359°59' -33° 4'  90° 2' 100% I 
Me 12Ge 8' 4"  2S 2 + 1° 7'  97°44' 21N13  23°14' -28°58'  54°31'   2%  b
Ve 15Le 4' 0"  1N 4 + 1° 7' 162° 5'  8N45 309°34' -29°47' 143°25'   3%  b
Ma 16Ta33'11"  0S12 +41'30"  70° 8' 21N59  46°51' -15°25'  20°42'  57%   
Ju 10Li34'16"  1N 7 + 3' 8" 213°44' 12S21 257°32' - 3°54' 176° 0'  96% D 
Sa 17Aq 9'23"  1S52 - 2'31" 344°21'  8S42 127°33' +28°23' 325°43'   1%  b
Ur 29Sg35' 1"  0S32 - 2'24" 296°41' 21S43 183° 3' +31°58' 265° 8'  94% M 
Ne 27Sg 9' 8"  0N37 - 1'37" 293°55' 21S 0 186°10' +32°30' 260°26'  77% M 
Pl  0Sc41'14" 14N 5 - 0'33" 236°46'  5S29 248°35' +18° 9' 199°24'  60%   
Er 23Pi51'56" 16S37 - 0' 3"  23°47'  7S58  99°47' - 0°10'   0°10' 100% A 
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    Class 1 Aspects      Other Partile Aspects                          
tSu sq tEr  1°25' 96% M tVe sq tJu  0°13'100% M                         
tUr sq tPl  0°17'100% M  ----------------------                         
----------------------  tVe sq rMa  0°40' 99% M                         
tSu op rUr  2°46' 85%   tJu co rMa  0°26'100%                           
tSu sq rEr  0° 8'100% M tJu sq rSa  0°10'100%                           
tEr sq rSu  1°25' 96% M tSa sq rMo  0° 0'100%                           
tEr op rJu  2°37' 87% M tUr op rPl  0°42' 99%                           
tEr sq rUr  0°50' 99%    ----------------------                         
tEr co rEr  1°33' 95% M rMa sq rSa  0°36' 99%                           
----------------------                                                  
rSu op rUr  2°46' 85%                                                   
rSu sq rEr  0° 8'100% M                                                 
rJu sq rUr  0°52' 99% M                                                 
rUr co rNe  2°26' 89%                                                   
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Jupiter doesn't seem like a good choice since Neptune is so close. I am guessing that the perfectly angular Uranus with the strong transiting Venus support would be the most beneficial of these for an SSR.
How much weight should I give the "Other Partile Aspects" in these charts compared to the Class 1 Aspects? The strong tVe sq tJu aspect in two of the above charts looks like it could be valuable.

Side note: thankfully I can realistically get to any of these locations without much trouble thanks to the fantastic public transportation.

[Patrick Machado]

How much weight should I give the "Other Partile Aspects" in these charts compared to the Class 1 Aspects? The strong tVe sq tJu aspect in two of the above charts looks like it could be valuable.

You might want to treat all non-foreground aspects as non-existent until you've become quite confident in working with these charts without them.

The exact Saturn transit to your Moon is uncomfortable -- and, being ecliptical, inescapable. My mind is reflexively nudged in the theoretical direction of compensating for it, preferably with Jupiter, alternatively with Venus, and Sun not cutting it. The other aspects, including the one you noted (though it's not "strong"), already balance it out nicely, however.

[sidus_illuminans]

How much weight should I give the "Other Partile Aspects" in these charts compared to the Class 1 Aspects? The strong tVe sq tJu aspect in two of the above charts looks like it could be valuable.

You might want to treat all non-foreground aspects as non-existent until you've become quite confident in working with these charts without them.

The exact Saturn transit to your Moon is uncomfortable -- and, being ecliptical, inescapable. My mind is reflexively nudged in the theoretical direction of compensating for it, preferably with Jupiter, alternatively with Venus, and Sun not cutting it. The other aspects, including the one you noted (though it's not "strong"), already balance it out nicely, however.

Thanks for your insight Patrick. I definitely had the instinct that the Sun would somehow not be enough this time.