Something "in the air" for so long - my transits & SA

[Arena]

I truly believe that those of us who have Uranus angular or squaring our angles are those who are least resistant to changes, who willingly walk into them and embrace them when they present themselves.

Changes - David Bowie : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8

It is strange how the air of change has been with me for so many years now and I can see it is coming again, or at least the urge for change, with transit Uranus.

Just took a look at my relocated chart (to Edinburgh) and transits and solar arcs of the planets that push us to change (Uranus & Pluto) to both the natal and the relocated angles.

My life has been full of changes - but I've gone through massive changes for let's say at least the last decade. Uranus, Jupiter and Pluto have been the prominent factors for the positive changes I believe while Saturn has been a bit difficult at times and I must give Neptune credit for introducing me to a whole new world of medicine that are working magic for me within just the last 6 months.

Right now I can see more changes coming up focusing on the angles (using bt 23.40):

Transits
Natal: Saturn is partile my n. MC, but Pluto has now moved out of the 3° orb.
Relocated: Tr. Uranus is partile sq rel. MC and is about to move into conj with rel. EP within months.

Solar Arcs
Natal: SA Nep partile n. MC and SA MC partile sq n. Nep. SA Moon partile n. ASC. SA ASC on n. Mer.
Relocated: SA Saturn partile rel. IC and rel. SA MC sq n. Saturn.

There is no interpretation in here or in my books on SA Moon or progressed Moon to the angles. I guess I should consider myself just a little like an angular/foreground Moon while it is partile the angle. https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=38

I also notice that in a couple of years, at the same time (2022) that the SA Sun moves into partile conj. with n. Pluto, the SA Pluto will move into a partile opposition to n. Moon. I am guessing some very challenging times at that point, perhaps my second "midlife crisis" as I will turn 50 that year.

[SteveS]

Arena wrote:

Solar Arcs
Natal: SA Nep partile n. MC and SA MC partile sq n. Nep. SA Moon partile n. ASC. SA ASC on n. Mer.
Relocated: SA Saturn partile rel. IC and rel. SA MC sq n. Saturn.

Damn Girl! Whats next?

[Arena]

Yeah, right?

I just don't know, just don't know... but I keep my heart and whole being open to the changes and options the Universe will present to me.

If I take this as "concurrent angularity" of Neptune and Saturn it certainly doesn't sound very good... but still so far I am feeling just great with my newfound discoveries on alternative medicine which I thank Neptune & Pluto for and am certain will help me for the rest of my life.

I must make a clear note of my long lasting exploration of alternative birth time here since that would change the SA angles entirely and the Saturn-Neptune thing would not be happening now, or at least not in this same manner.

[SteveS]

I understand Arena. Even if the Saturn-Neptune is going to manifest, Saturn-Neptune could manifest as a 'spiritual discipline' reaping positive results--according to Robert Hand--that is if you choose to take-up some type of spiritual discipline. And I think you have the mind to take-up anything along any kind of Neptunian (Spiritual) Discipline (Saturn) if you choose to do so.

[Arena]

Aha, I see what you mean Steve.
I've never seen that interpretation, but it could make sense though and maybe I will. I've seen this aspect associated with law of attraction, as in manifesting your dreams.

In Between Two Worlds: Someone whose horoscope highlights a Saturn Neptune aspect may initially feel ungrounded, like she doesn’t quite belong fully in this world.

The integration of key concepts of the planets produces combinations such as: Practical dreamer; goals with vision; real world accomplishment using one’s creativity; spiritual discipline; dreams and visions are grounded in realistic terms. At best, Saturn’s contact with Neptune suggests a potential to bring into real world our transcendent vision.

Maybe it also has to do with finding the right medicine to cure your illness. At least I know it is only positive for now, although I am aware that sometimes the planets manifest in both the positive and negative.

[SteveS]

Yes Arena, I agree with all your words in your above post about Saturn-Neptune combos.’ If you have Robert Hand’s book Horoscope Symbols, he has one of the best few paragraphs I have ever read on psychological impulses with Saturn-Neptune combos, pages 75-78. Mundanely, you were born with Saturn-Neptune angular and fortunately you have your Natal Jupiter in this mundo angular mix. I see you in the last couple of years really exploring spiritual worlds and Ebertin words rings very true to me about Saturn-Neptune impulses:

…a struggle between idealistic (spiritual) and materialistic tendencies.

I think it took that transiting Uranus-Pluto going across your MC to bolt you more into exploring ‘spiritual’ realms with your ayahuasca experiments, but I really see you manifesting your Natal Chart with positive changes. But that damn 'material' world keeps getting in our way.

[Arena]

I have only one book by RH, not sure if it is this one. Will try to find it.

Yes, I can see why the Sat-Nep would be one that is caught between two or more different worlds, between dream and reality, between ideal and practical. And maybe some people with this aspect are very capable of making their dreams a reality, approaching their dreams with a notion of them being real in a sense and approaching their reality with a notion of changing it according to their dream - using a practical approach to turn the ideal into real.

I also see all that is happening as a manifestation of my relocated angularity of Neptune and Pluto, since those two together will take you beyond what you could have imagined. (The tropical SR this year also puts those two planets on angles). Maybe that one combined with the Sat-Nep going on in the solar arcs will bring this into a disciplined spirituality and a certain grounded-ness in exploring the other dimensions.

In COSI, Ebertin says:

The Supernatural. An inclination to delve into unusual and supernatural phenomena, a love of mysticism, self-knowledge by inner realisation of truth. A progressive spiritual evolution.

Jim didn't quite have a comprehensive insight into this aspect either when I was looking into relocating, but this is his interpretation of the mundane aspect:

[In mundane astrology: Heightened, surreal, reality-altering emotion to the point of insanity combined with mind-halting, senses-stunning events, inherently decisive and separative in nature. - JAE]

And from this one on local angularity and combined angularity http://www.scribd.com/doc/48191491/Dona ... phy#scribd :

NEPTUNE*PLUTO
Under these two most mysterious planets, the ideals and illusions of life are burned away, and much of the phoney order of the mind is upset, with resultant higher, though frightening and alienating, vision. Here you feel, quite rightly, that you have been through the worst, and what survives this stormy climate can be counted on to be real. You are able to recognize that there is more than one level of consciousness, a stupendous realization, and that the subjective can control the objective. After a period of purging, you feel that there is nothing left to believe in, then come to find inner strength and power to see the larger view. You may feel ennui, boredom, that everything is hollow, so that the inner voice demands attention where exterior realities are dimmed. Drugs or meditation can evoke transformation in the life, but there is danger of not being able to stand the strain, as well as obvious inability to take care of practicalities. The unconscious, spirits, demons and visions intrude insistently into daily life until the idea of sanity itself is transcended.

I must add that I didn't quite understand this description when I was exploring Edinburgh as a possible relocation - but now I do and am eternally grateful for the experiences and the people this relocation has brought into my life.