Mars-Saturn and Prominent Actors

[sotonye]

This is an interesting little thing I've been seeing, I don't really understand it, but it is interesting. For whatever reason Mars-Saturn seems to be extremely common in the maps of successful actors, it's just odd since you wouldn't exactly think of Mars-Saturn when you think of tremendous success, and I'm not sure what the mechanism might be here that pushes the following men into the top of their domain:

George Clooney

Robert Downey Jr

Chris Hemsworth

Chris Evans

Timothée Chalamet

Denzel Washington

Jeff Bridges

Kevin Spacey

Bill Hader

Jerry Seinfeld

Darren Criss

[Jim Eshelman]

The people you list seem all hard-working - definitely a trait that contributes to success.

You also have listed all male actors, and mostly a certain (shall we say rugged?) type, so the type may be selective here.

I don't think you'd find that Mars-Saturn is distinctive of great, successful actors in general, but you can find out if you're so inclined. I'll attach a list of all men and women who have won best acting Oscars (there will be duplicates in the list, easy for you to sort out). If you are so inclined, tabulate the number of Mars-Saturn conjunctions, oppositions, and squares within 3° then, separately, all trines and sextiles within 3°. The first set should, on average, produce an aspect one time in 15; the combined set should produce an aspect by pure chance two times in 15.

[Jim Eshelman]

Here they are 1928-2016

Emil Jannings 7/23/1884
Janet Gaynor 10/6/1906
Mary Pickford 4/8/1892
Warner Baxter 3/29/1889
George Arliss 4/10/1868
Norma Shearer 8/10/1900
Lionel Barrymore 4/12/1878
Marie Dressler 11/9/1868
Fredric March 8/31/1897
Helen Hayes 10/10/1900
Wallace Beery 4/1/1886
Charles Laughton 7/1/1899
Katharine Hepburn 5/12/1907
Clark Gable 2/1/1901
Claudette Colbert 9/13/1903
Bette Davis 4/5/1908
Victor McLaglen 12/10/1886
Luise Rainer 1/12/1910
Paul Muni 9/22/1895
Luise Rainer 1/12/1910
Spencer Tracy 4/5/1900
Bette Davis 4/5/1908
Spencer Tracy 4/5/1900
Robert Donat 3/18/1905
Vivien Leigh 11/5/1913
Ginger Rogers 7/18/1911
James Stewart 5/20/1908
Gary Cooper 5/7/1901
Joan Fontaine 10/22/1917
Greer Garson 9/29/1904
James Cagney 7/17/1899
Jennifer Jones 3/2/1919
Paul Lukas 5/26/1894
Bing Crosby 5/3/1903
Ingrid Bergman 8/29/1915
Joan Crawford 3/23/1906
Ray Milland 1/3/1907
Fredric March 8/31/1897
Olivia De Havilland 7/1/1916
Loretta Young 1/6/1913
Ronald Colman 2/9/1891
Jane Wyman 1/5/1917
Laurence Olivier 5/22/1907
Broderick Crawford 12/9/1911
Olivia De Havilland 7/1/1916
Jose Ferrer 1/8/1912
Judy Holliday 6/21/2021
Humphrey Bogart 12/25/1899
Vivien Leigh 11/5/1913
Gary Cooper 5/7/1901
Shirley Booth 8/30/1898
Audrey Hepburn 5/4/1929
William Holden 4/17/1918
Grace Kelly 11/12/1929
Marlon Brando 4/3/1924
Anna Magnani 3/7/1908
Ernest Borgnine 1/24/1917
Ingrid Bergman 8/29/1915
Yul Brenner 7/11/1920
Alec Guinness 4/2/1914
Joanne Woodward 2/27/1930
David Niven 3/1/1910
Susan Hayward 6/30/1917
Charlton Heston 10/4/2023
Simone Signoret 3/25/1921
Burt Lancaster 11/2/1913
Elizabeth Taylor 2/27/1932
Maximilian Schell 12/8/1930
Sophia Loren 9/20/1934
Anne Bancroft 9/17/1931
Gregory Peck 4/5/1916
Patricia Neal 1/20/1926
Sidney Poitier 2/20/1927
Julie Andrews 10/1/1935
Rex Harrison 3/5/1908
Julie Christie 4/14/1941
Lee Marvin 2/19/1924
Elizabeth Taylor 2/27/1932
Paul Scofield 1/21/1922
Katharine Hepburn 5/12/1907
Rod Steiger 4/14/1925
Cliff Robertson 9/9/1923
Katharine Hepburn 5/12/1907
John Wayne 5/26/1907
Maggie Smith 12/28/1934
George C. Scott 10/18/1927
Glenda Jackson 5/9/1936
Gene Hackman 1/30/1930
Jane Fonda 12/21/1937
Liza Minnelli 3/12/1946
Marlon Brando 4/3/1924
Glenda Jackson 5/9/1936
Jack Lemmon 2/8/1925
Art Carney 11/4/1918
Ellen Burstyn 12/7/1932
Jack Nicholson 4/22/1937
Louise Fletcher 7/22/1934
Faye Dunaway 1/14/1941
Peter Finch 9/28/1916
Diane Keaton 1/5/1946
Richard Dreyfus 10/29/1947
Jane Fonda 12/21/1937
John Voight 12/29/1938
Dustin Hoffman 8/8/1937
Sally Field 11/6/1946
Robert DeNiro 8/17/1943
Sissy Spacek 12/25/1949
Henry Fonda 5/16/1905
Katharine Hepburn 5/12/1907
Ben Kingsley 12/31/1943
Meryl Streep 6/22/1949
Robert Duvall 1/5/1931
Shirley MacLaine 4/24/1934
F. Murray Abraham 10/24/1939
Sally Field 11/6/1946
Geraldine Page 11/22/1824
William Hurt 3/20/1950
Marlee Matlin 8/24/1965
Paul Newman 1/26/1925
Cher 5/20/1946
Michael Douglas 9/25/1944
Dustin Hoffman 8/8/1937
Jodie Foster 11/19/1962
Daniel Day-Lewis 4/29/1957
Jessica Tandy 6/7/1909
Jeremy Irons 9/19/1948
Kathy Bates 6/28/1948
Anthony Hopkins 12/31/1937
Jodie Foster 11/19/1962
Al Pacino 4/25/1940
Emma Thompson 4/15/1959
Holly Hunter 3/20/1958
Tom Hanks 7/9/1956
Jessica Lange 4/20/1949
Tom Hanks 7/9/1956
Nicolas Cage 1/7/1964
Susan Sarandon 10/4/1946
Frances McDormand 6/23/1957
Geoffrey Rush 7/6/1951
Helen Hunt 6/15/1963
Jack Nicholson 4/22/1937
Gwyneth Paltrow 9/27/1972
Robert Benigni 10/27/1952
Hilary Swank 7/30/1974
Kevin Spacey 7/26/1959
Julia Roberts 10/28/1967
Russell Crowe 4/7/1964
Denzel Washington 12/28/1954
Halle Berry 8/14/1966
Adrien Brody 4/14/1973
Nicole Kidman 6/20/1967
Charlize Theron 8/7/1975
Sean Penn 8/17/1960
Hilary Swank 7/30/1974
Jamie Foxx 12/13/1967
Philip Seymour Hoffman 7/23/1967
Reese Witherspoon 3/22/1976
Forest Whitaker 7/15/1981
Helen Mirren 7/26/1945
Daniel Day-Lewis 4/29/1957
Marion Cotillard 9/30/1975
Kate Winslet 10/5/1975
Sean Penn 8/17/1960
Jeff Bridges 12/4/1949
Sandra Bullock 7/26/1964
Colin Firth 9/19/1960
Natalie Portman 6/9/1981
Jean Dujardin 6/19/1972
Meryl Streep 6/22/1949
Daniel Day-Lewis 4/29/1957
Jennifer Lawrence 8/15/1990
Cate Blanchett 5/14/1969
Matthew McConaughey 11/4/1969
Eddie Redmayne 1/6/1982
Julianne Moore 12/3/1960
Brie Larson 10/1/1989
Leonardo DiCaprio 11/11/1974
Emma Stone 11/6/1988
Casey Affleck 8/12/1975

[sotonye]

I don't think you'd find that Mars-Saturn is distinctive of great, successful actors in general, but you can find out if you're so inclined. I'll attach a list of all men and women who have won best acting Oscars (there will be duplicates in the list, easy for you to sort out). If you are so inclined, tabulate the number of Mars-Saturn conjunctions, oppositions, and squares within 3° then, separately, all trines and sextiles within 3°. The first set should, on average, produce an aspect one time in 15; the combined set should produce an aspect by pure chance two times in 15.

I'm on it!

[Jim Eshelman]

I just gave you a better form of the data above.

[Arena]

Neptune has often been associated with actors and some have also noted Jupiter.
Mars-Saturn with hard work.

George Clooney: Wide Sun-Neptune opposition. Natal Nodes are the closest to angles followed by Uranus and Pluto around 9-10° from DSC. Nothing angular. In Hollywood he has his Mars-Saturn aspect angular followed by Moon, Mercury and Jupiter.

Robert Downey Jr. : Partile Moon-Neptune opposition. Nothing angular in NY natal birth place. Hollywood has Uranus angular followed by the Mars-Sat and Pluto wider out.

Chris Hemsworth: Birth time not known. Neptune conjunct his Nodes and square his Moon.

Chris Evans: Sun-Neptune partile opposition. Uranus angular natally. Hollywood has Pluto and his Nodes foreground. Note:Saturn is conjunct Jupiter.

Timothée Chalamet; birth time unknown. Mer-Nep partile conjunction.

Denzel Washington: Sun-Mercury conjunction angular. Neptune-Jup&Ur partile square. In Hollywood Venus becomes angular within 5° followed by Pluto wider out. Note POF partile Jupiter in LA.

Jeff Bridges: Mars-Saturn angular as well as Sun & Mercury. Neptune on Nodes. Jup-Venus partile conjunction.

Kevin Spacey: birth time unknown. Almost partile Sun-Neptune square.

Bill Hader: birth time unknown. Partile Sun-Neptune opposition.

Jerry Seinfeld: Mars-Saturn is only a sextile. Angularity within 5° in order: Sun, Saturn, Mercury, Uranus and Neptune just out of the 5° range. Partile Nep-Jup trine and POF conj. Jup. Mer-Nep opp, Jup-Mer and Jup-Pluto sextile.

Darren Criss: Sun on MC. Jupiter-Uranus partile square.