Book of World Horoscopes
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:23 am
By Nick Campion....Had to buy it used could not afford it new...Anyone got it or ever used it?
For the Study & Growth of Sidereal Astrology
https://solunars.com/
Jim you can get it used pretty cheap off Amazon..The hardback new is $500+! And the paperback is over $50! I did not pay anywhere near either one of those..Less than $40!Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:31 am I never felt like spending the money for it. - While national charts have some importance, I don't find in practice that they are (say) even one-fifth as important as the Sidereal ingresses.
How is it different?Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:30 am That's a book of "birthcharts" for different countries. Some people use those instead of ingresses, and some in addition to them. You can use the charts for solar and lunar returns as well as transits, just like a birthchart.
Jim's book is about ingresses although a lot of the interpretation transfers. I just want you to understand it's a different kind of mundane. This is a well-researched and valuable book to have.
I don't think I've ever articulated that but I'll give it a try.
I agree with your realistic approach...But unless a valid time can be given how does that even make the chart accurate? The only real supporting evidence is we know the DOI is real and know they signed it.. So just to {nass} in some ones corn flakes again just what do you do when you have no solid time of the actual event? Make up a time? What? Not being sarcastic mind you just trying to get the facts straight.Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:50 am This is one of those subjects where everybody has an opinion, but nobody knows or can ever know for sure. I like Jim's approach - which chart(s) are supported by at least some evidence, which are realistic, and then which actually work. (Realistic... a chart for 5AM is not...)
So one astrologer, whose name you don't know, got it wrong, and that condemns the entire method?Phillip Redfern wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:41 am Ingresses too has I understand it failed to predict WW2. Some fellow named Charles I do not recall his last name said WW2 would not happen...it did..
Nope I did not say that...This is not an exact occult science like everything else in the occult it's likely wrong more than it's right...It's prophecy...So much of it is open ended anything can be inserted to make it look like the event was predicted by the prophet, astrologer whatever. In other words its a GUESS..And Hope your right especially if you have already broadcast it to the world. And as far as that unknown astrologer's last name I can get it if it will make you jump for frigging joy!Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:55 amSo one astrologer, whose name you don't know, got it wrong, and that condemns the entire method?Phillip Redfern wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:41 am Ingresses too has I understand it failed to predict WW2. Some fellow named Charles I do not recall his last name said WW2 would not happen...it did..
Um....
Take your ball and go then...@Jim what is your opinion of the Sibly chart?
Whatever. It was an example. I'm not going to debate that with you on this thread. Note my wider point about national charts overall.Phillip Redfern wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:41 am As I understand it the July 4th 1776 chart is flawed because they never came up with an exact time..That coupled with the fact that US independence did not actually take place until Augist because it took them that long to get all the folks to sign it.
"Failed to predict" is a misnomer because Sidereal ingresses weren't discovered until 1956-57. You are probably responding to something you read about Tropical ingresses which, in fact, are quite weak.Ingresses too has I understand it failed to predict WW2.
Respectfully, it still seems you have gone though my book, meaning you probably don't know anything about the Sidereal solar and lunar ingresses.The more I look into this stuff the more I am seeing ingress's as more of a hazard than a help. I am going to try and run a chart today my first one and see what happens.
For the 500+ major events studied in my book Sidereal Mundane Astrology, at minimum one (of up to two possible) solar ingresses AND one (of up to two possible) lunar ingresses AND one (of up to two possible) daily timing methods showed correct descriptive symbolism of the event 94% of the time. This, of course, is hindsight, but the necessary factors were in each of those charts to describe the nature of the event, the time of the event, and the place of the event).Phillip Redfern wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:59 am This is not an exact occult science like everything else in the occult it's likely wrong more than it's right...It's prophecy...So much of it is open ended anything can be inserted to make it look like the event was predicted by the prophet, astrologer whatever. In other words its a GUESS..And Hope your right especially if you have already broadcast it to the world.
Sure, people disagree with me all the time. I do expect some facts to go with the disagreement, though I don't know that the book is the answer to the world's troubles, but it is the answer to your original question about how we do mundane astrology here. It is the only book existing that describes how to use these tools (which correctly describe major events over 90% of the time).Phillip Redfern wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:16 am Boy! You two cannot stand it when some one disagrees with you can you? And no is was ingresses I read about and they are the weak side..Bit you know it all.You act like that damn book is the answer to the worlds troubles!
This is a fair statement - especially the way astrology is usually practiced. - In fact, it's the thinking behind the approach most of use on this site of thinking less is better than more.Phillip Redfern wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:59 am So much of it is open ended anything can be inserted to make it look like the event was predicted by the prophet, astrologer whatever.