Relocating a different friend's bad (?) SSR
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:34 pm
I need to ask advice for another SSR for a different friend. I'm wondering if, in your opinions, the base chart here is worth dodging in favor of any of the relocation options below (or any others you're able to find):
Birth data:
July 14 1993 5:55pm
Ridgewood, NJ
Current location: Victor, NY
If they don't travel for their next birthday, this is the SSR they will get:
Foreground:
T. Mars on Dsc +0°23’
T. Uranus on Dsc -0°24’
R. Moon on Dsc -1°16’
T. Jupiter on WP +0°37’ (= about 1°50’)
R. Venus on WP -0°48’ (= about 2°25’)
R. Mars on MC -3°03’
Background:
T. Venus 4°33’
T. Pluto 5°36’
T. Eris 6°04’
T. Moon 6°36’
Aspects by Solar Moon:
T. Moon sqr t. Mercury 0°57’ M
T. Moon sqr t. Venus 1°07’
T. Moon sqr t. Pluto 1°43’
Aspects among foreground planets:
T. Uranus cnj r. Moon 0°10’
T. Mars cnj r. Moon 0°19’
T. Jupiter cnj r. Venus 0°59’
R. Moon sqr r. Mars 1°47’ M (i.e. a new mundane natal aspect)
T. Jupiter sqr r. Mars 2°00’
T. Uranus sqr r. Mars 2°39’ M
Other transits to natal
T. Saturn sqr r. Venus 0°34’ M
R. Saturn sqr r. Pluto 0°55’ M (i.e. a new mundane natal aspect)
This is pretty mixed and looks very painful. However, they are currently between jobs and are having difficulty securing the next one; I feel like, even though this is evidently a very harsh chart, it can be extremely constructive, given the double Mars and transiting Jupiter on angles.
The transiting Moon-Venus-Pluto thing concerns me as well. There are important but fragile relationships in their life that I feel like won't survive this combo plus foreground Uranus (not to mention transiting Saturn to natal Venus). However, that transiting cluster is in the moderate background in this chart - something that is generally lost when relocating. I know we can't avoid this cluster existing in the SSR, but I'm wondering if keeping it in the moderate background is preferable than moving it to the middleground or even foreground given those concerns. Of course, it is fair to say that this chart is pretty separative anyway, so maybe it's not going to matter.
I spent a long time trying to find other locations in the US to relocate this chart to that don't put more malefics on angles for even less gain. These are some of the few I could come up with, and I'm not sure any of them are really better than the base chart.
Gallup, NM
T. Venus on Zenith +0°02’
T. Moon on Asc +0°30’
R. Venus on WP -1°36’ (= about 4°30’)
T. Pluto on IC +6°30’
R. Saturn on IC -7°39’
T. Jupiter on WP -2°36’ (= about 7°40’)
T. Neptune background 5°29’
T. Uranus sqr r. Saturn 0°46’ M
R. Moon sqr r. Saturn 0°19’ M
This scores really, really well, and we do get double Venus - but it does mostly rotate Moon-Venus-Pluto into the foreground in order to do that.
Prescott, AZ
T. Pluto on Nadir 0°00’
T. Venus on MC +0°40’
T. Moon on Asc -2°15’
R. Saturn on IC -4°04’
T. Jupiter on WP +1°36’ (= about 4°40’)
T. Eris on Dsc +8°09’
For someone else who wants their world rocked, I would recommend something like this, but I don't think this friend is such a person.
Sacramento, CA
R. Sun on Zenith -0°05’
T. Eris on Dsc +0°40’
R. Mercury on Zenith -0°18’ (= about 54’)
—
T. Pluto on IC -5°34’
R. Uranus on IC +5°42’
R. Neptune on IC +6°24’
T. Venus on MC -8°11’
T. Eris sqr r. Sun 2°37’
This is basically the only location I could find that prioritized natal planets that doesn't also put horrendous aspects on angles. Is this better than Mars-Mars-Jupiter-Uranus for someone who needs some more career successes? (I suspect the answer is no.) Are any of these more likely to preserve existing relationships than the base SSR is? (I don't know.)
I'd love your thoughts.
Birth data:
July 14 1993 5:55pm
Ridgewood, NJ
Current location: Victor, NY
If they don't travel for their next birthday, this is the SSR they will get:
Foreground:
T. Mars on Dsc +0°23’
T. Uranus on Dsc -0°24’
R. Moon on Dsc -1°16’
T. Jupiter on WP +0°37’ (= about 1°50’)
R. Venus on WP -0°48’ (= about 2°25’)
R. Mars on MC -3°03’
Background:
T. Venus 4°33’
T. Pluto 5°36’
T. Eris 6°04’
T. Moon 6°36’
Aspects by Solar Moon:
T. Moon sqr t. Mercury 0°57’ M
T. Moon sqr t. Venus 1°07’
T. Moon sqr t. Pluto 1°43’
Aspects among foreground planets:
T. Uranus cnj r. Moon 0°10’
T. Mars cnj r. Moon 0°19’
T. Jupiter cnj r. Venus 0°59’
R. Moon sqr r. Mars 1°47’ M (i.e. a new mundane natal aspect)
T. Jupiter sqr r. Mars 2°00’
T. Uranus sqr r. Mars 2°39’ M
Other transits to natal
T. Saturn sqr r. Venus 0°34’ M
R. Saturn sqr r. Pluto 0°55’ M (i.e. a new mundane natal aspect)
This is pretty mixed and looks very painful. However, they are currently between jobs and are having difficulty securing the next one; I feel like, even though this is evidently a very harsh chart, it can be extremely constructive, given the double Mars and transiting Jupiter on angles.
The transiting Moon-Venus-Pluto thing concerns me as well. There are important but fragile relationships in their life that I feel like won't survive this combo plus foreground Uranus (not to mention transiting Saturn to natal Venus). However, that transiting cluster is in the moderate background in this chart - something that is generally lost when relocating. I know we can't avoid this cluster existing in the SSR, but I'm wondering if keeping it in the moderate background is preferable than moving it to the middleground or even foreground given those concerns. Of course, it is fair to say that this chart is pretty separative anyway, so maybe it's not going to matter.
I spent a long time trying to find other locations in the US to relocate this chart to that don't put more malefics on angles for even less gain. These are some of the few I could come up with, and I'm not sure any of them are really better than the base chart.
Gallup, NM
T. Venus on Zenith +0°02’
T. Moon on Asc +0°30’
R. Venus on WP -1°36’ (= about 4°30’)
T. Pluto on IC +6°30’
R. Saturn on IC -7°39’
T. Jupiter on WP -2°36’ (= about 7°40’)
T. Neptune background 5°29’
T. Uranus sqr r. Saturn 0°46’ M
R. Moon sqr r. Saturn 0°19’ M
This scores really, really well, and we do get double Venus - but it does mostly rotate Moon-Venus-Pluto into the foreground in order to do that.
Prescott, AZ
T. Pluto on Nadir 0°00’
T. Venus on MC +0°40’
T. Moon on Asc -2°15’
R. Saturn on IC -4°04’
T. Jupiter on WP +1°36’ (= about 4°40’)
T. Eris on Dsc +8°09’
For someone else who wants their world rocked, I would recommend something like this, but I don't think this friend is such a person.
Sacramento, CA
R. Sun on Zenith -0°05’
T. Eris on Dsc +0°40’
R. Mercury on Zenith -0°18’ (= about 54’)
—
T. Pluto on IC -5°34’
R. Uranus on IC +5°42’
R. Neptune on IC +6°24’
T. Venus on MC -8°11’
T. Eris sqr r. Sun 2°37’
This is basically the only location I could find that prioritized natal planets that doesn't also put horrendous aspects on angles. Is this better than Mars-Mars-Jupiter-Uranus for someone who needs some more career successes? (I suspect the answer is no.) Are any of these more likely to preserve existing relationships than the base SSR is? (I don't know.)
I'd love your thoughts.