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Hello, my friends
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:00 pm
by Max
Hello,
Max here. I met some of you at the Astrology Lab on Sunday, and I would love to look at my chart again. I had a great time and want to keep learning.
According to my birth certificate, I was born:
August 28, 1988
5:08 AM
Pasadena, CA (Huntington Memorial Hospital)
Thank you for the good times and great information.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:13 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Max, good to see you here. Welcome.
If you get the chance, you may want to add your birth data here also:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25
Here's a copy of your chart data from our free software package, TMSA (which you can download from its own forum higher up on the forum)
[repaired: Patrick caught a mistake in the original]:
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Pl Longitude Lat Speed RA Decl Azi Alt PVL Ang G
Mo 25Aq45'28" 0N35 +15° 9' 350°54' 3S18 241°51' +30° 0' 213°13' 36%
Su 10Le48'42" 0S 0 +57'57" 157°13' 9N32 66°32' -15°41' 17° 1' 64%
Me 1Vi57'39" 0S 5 + 1°30' 176°48' 1N18 58°41' -35°38' 40° 0' 25%
Ve 25Ge 8'35" 2S37 + 1° 0' 110°57' 19N25 83°52' +26°50' 333° 2' 2%
Ma 16Pi51'19" 5S17 - 1'36" 12°35' 0S20 223°25' +46°33' 236°56' 1%
Ju 10Ta21'32" 0S59 + 5' 7" 63°11' 20N10 119°27' +65°45' 291°25' 56%
Sa 1Sg20'55" 0N59 - 0'11" 265°36' 22S24 274°38' -49°10' 130°44' 23%
Ur 2Sg29'14" 0S13 - 0'24" 266°48' 23S38 272°13' -48°43' 131°15' 22%
Ne 12Sg57'28" 0N58 - 0'40" 278° 9' 22S16 267°33' -38°44' 141°15' 5%
Pl 15Li36'41" 15N45 + 1'18" 222°41' 0N 7 356°38' -55°41' 92°17' 99% I
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Class 1 Aspects Class 2 Aspects Class 3 Aspects
Mo tr Ve 0°37' 99% Mo op Me 6°12' 59% Mo sq Sa 5°35' 42%
Su oc Ve 0°40' 95% Su sx Pl 4°48' 57% Mo sq Ur 6°44' 18%
Su sq Ju 0°27'100% Me oc Pl 1°21' 78% Me sx Ve 6°49' 16%
Su tr Ne 2° 9' 91% Ma sq Ne 3°54' 71% Ve sq Ma 6° 6' 32% M
Me sq Sa 0°37' 99% Ur oc Pl 1°53' 59% Ma sx Ju 6°30' 23%
Me sq Ur 0°32' 99% Ur co Ne 9°59' 0% M
Ve oc Ju 0°13' 99%
Sa co Ur 0°31'100% M
Sa oc Pl 0°44' 93%
Ne sx Pl 2°39' 86%
Because we know you, I'm going to adjust your account so you can see some private discussion areas and other topics that you otherwise wouldn't see for a while.
Meanwhile... anything you'd like to ask or say?
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:22 pm
by Mike V
Hi Max, good to see you here!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:55 pm
by Max
Thank you for the warm welcome! I am glad to be here.
I am new to astrology, so I'm currently reading a lot of the more informational posts on the forum to try to get a grasp on the foundations.
I'm very interested in using astrology for not only learning about myself, others, and the cosmos, but also in using astrology for timing activities and events. For example, the planetary hours/rulers correspondences in the Hygromanteia have really interested me.
Anyway, I'm a total beginner but I am thoroughly enjoying everything so far.
Thank you!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:05 pm
by Patrick Machado
Hi, Max. Welcome.
Jim Eshelman wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:13 pmCode: Select all
Pl Longitude Lat Speed RA Decl Azi Alt PVL Ang G
Mo 26Aq23'21" 0N38 +15° 9' 351°27' 3S 0 252°24' +19° 9' 200° 2' 59%
Su 10Le51' 7" 0S 0 +57'57" 157°15' 9N31 75°42' - 3°57' 4° 4' 96% A
Me 2Vi 1'24" 0S 5 + 1°30' 176°51' 1N16 70°15' -24°27' 25°47' 49%
Ve 25Ge11' 6" 2S36 + 1° 0' 110°59' 19N25 92° 2' +39°14' 320°45' 6%
Ma 16Pi51'15" 5S17 - 1'38" 12°35' 0S21 238°52' +36°50' 221°11' 22%
Ju 10Ta21'45" 0S59 + 5' 7" 63°11' 20N10 153° 7' +74°34' 277° 7' 87% M
Sa 1Sg20'55" 0N59 - 0'11" 265°36' 22S24 286°24' -61°25' 117°36' 45%
Ur 2Sg29'13" 0S13 - 0'24" 266°48' 23S38 283° 3' -61° 3' 118°19' 44%
Ne 12Sg57'27" 0N58 - 0'40" 278° 9' 22S16 276°28' -51°10' 128°40' 27%
Pl 15Li36'44" 15N45 + 1'18" 222°41' 0N 7 22°32' -53°35' 74°13' 46%
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Class 1 Aspects Class 2 Aspects Class 3 Aspects
Mo tr Ve 1°12' 97% Mo op Me 5°38' 66% Mo sq Ur 6° 6' 32%
Su oc Ve 0°40' 95% Mo sq Sa 4°58' 54% Me sx Ve 6°50' 16%
Su sq Ju 0°29'100% Su sx Pl 4°46' 57% Ma sx Ju 6°29' 23%
Su tr Ne 2° 6' 91% Me oc Pl 1°25' 76%
Me sq Sa 0°40' 99% Ur oc Pl 1°52' 59%
Me sq Ur 0°28'100%
Ve oc Ju 0°11'100%
Ma sq Ne 2°32' 88% M
Sa co Ur 0°43' 99% M
Sa oc Pl 0°44' 93%
Ne sx Pl 2°39' 86%
That chart data is for one hour later than what I get for Max's stated birth data. Daylight savings time.
Max wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:55 pmI'm very interested in using astrology for not only learning about myself, others, and the cosmos, but also in using astrology for timing activities and events.
For the latter, you might want to start (and, perhaps, end) with transits and Solar and Lunar Returns.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:10 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Patrick Machado wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:05 pm
That chart data is for one hour later than what I get for Max's stated birth data. Daylight savings time.
Patrick, you're absolutely right. When I was copying this from SF to TMSA, I typed a wrong hour. (And I thought Max had an angular Pluto as, in fact, he does.)
Thanks for catching this. I'll replace the one above so the wrong one isn't confusing.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:55 pm
by Max
Patrick Machado wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:05 pm
That chart data is for one hour later than what I get for Max's stated birth data. Daylight savings time.
Good lookin out, buddy!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Max wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:55 pm
I'm very interested in using astrology for not only learning about myself, others, and the cosmos, but also in using astrology for timing activities and events. For example, the planetary hours/rulers correspondences in the Hygromanteia have really interested me.
All testing I've ever done - whether applied to individual charts or to ritual and vision timing - leads to the conclusion that planetary hours aren't legit. You'll do much better selecting the time that the desired planet is exactly crossing an angle (horizon or meridian).
Anything else you want to learn about, just ask and we'll do what we can. I'm on a three-year project to get everything committed to a three-volume book so that everybody has a "from the start: A B C 1 2 3" path, but we're not there yet. You might want to check out the PowerPoints (as PDFs) from a former class series here:
Foundations:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4709
Solunar Returns:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4710
(Not the same as attending a full class, but it's a start.)
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:33 pm
by Max
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
All testing I've ever done - whether applied to individual charts or to ritual and vision timing - leads to the conclusion that planetary hours aren't legit. You'll do much better selecting the time that the desired planet is exactly crossing an angle (horizon or meridian).
Anything else you want to learn about, just ask and we'll do what we can. I'm on a three-year project to get everything committed to a three-volume book so that everybody has a "from the start: A B C 1 2 3" path, but we're not there yet. You might want to check out the PowerPoints (as PDFs) from a former class series here:
Foundations:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4709
Solunar Returns:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4710
(Not the same as attending a full class, but it's a start.)
Thank you very much. Someday, I'd love to learn more about how you test these concepts. I have a stargazing app on my phone and just looking at the current positions of the Sun and Moon, they are clearly closer to Aries and Scorpio (respectively) than what my (Tropical) Astrology app lists as their current positions (Taurus and Sagittarius). I think we might be on to something.
Thank you for linking to the PowerPoints! Looking forward to digging in, and eagerly awaiting the first volume.
Thanks!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:37 pm
by Jim Eshelman
You can preview chapters in the hidden "CSA" sub-forum that you should now be able to see.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:21 pm
by Max
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Anything else you want to learn about, just ask and we'll do what we can.
Thank you! I'm trying out TMSA and have a question:
How do I determine what to enter for Time, Time Zone, and TZ Corr for myself and others? For example, I was born at 5:08 AM in Pasadena, CA.
Thank you!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:37 pm
by Jim Eshelman
For your birth year, TMSA should provide it. Type "Pasadena, CA" and click phone.
If I'm wrong, then one has to look it up in other resources. Your time zone is PDT, 7 hours west of Greenwich.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:06 pm
by Max
Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:37 pm
For your birth year, TMSA should provide it. Type "Pasadena, CA" and click phone.
If I'm wrong, then one has to look it up in other resources. Your time zone is PDT, 7 hours west of Greenwich.
Thank you!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:28 pm
by Max
Patrick Machado wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:05 pm
That chart data is for one hour later than what I get for Max's stated birth data. Daylight savings time.
Hey, good evening. I notice that your data varies slightly from Jim's. Is that because of Daylight Savings? How did you arrive at that?
Thanks so much!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:39 pm
by Patrick Machado
The data now in his first reply to the thread is correct. (If we use specifically the coordinates for the hospital, it's marginally different. Nothing of consequence.) Never mind the data I had quoted.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:39 pm
by Max
Patrick Machado wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:39 pm
The data now in his first reply to the thread is correct. (If we use specifically the coordinates for the hospital, it's marginally different. Nothing of consequence.) Never mind the data I had quoted.
Got it, thank you!
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 5:54 pm
by Max
Looks like tomorrow, Mars is going to be in conjunction with Mars on my natal chart. Is that of any significance, and if so, what can I expect or what might I undertake?
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:13 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Max wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 5:54 pm
Looks like tomorrow, Mars is going to be in conjunction with Mars on my natal chart. Is that of any significance, and if so, what can I expect or what might I undertake?
All transits are significant. Mars conjunct Mars, in the broader sense, shows a roughly 18-to-24-month of your life closing and another opening. Read the
T MARS conjunct N MARS paragraph on this page:
https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=238#p1612
While it
can be combative, in day-to-day flow the worst I usually get from it is a tendency to burn energy from both ends and feel a bit beat up because of it.
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:14 pm
by Max
Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 6:13 pm
Max wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 5:54 pm
Looks like tomorrow, Mars is going to be in conjunction with Mars on my natal chart. Is that of any significance, and if so, what can I expect or what might I undertake?
All transits are significant. Mars conjunct Mars, in the broader sense, shows a roughly 18-to-24-month of your life closing and another opening. Read the
T MARS conjunct N MARS paragraph on this page:
https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=238#p1612
While it
can be combative, in day-to-day flow the worst I usually get from it is a tendency to burn energy from both ends and feel a bit beat up because of it.
Thank you! I can see that, as I’m starting a new job right now after working the same position for roughly 2 years.
Any ideas for appropriate magical undertakings?
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:04 pm
by Jim Eshelman
Worship Mars? (Or Mars gods like Horus?)
Re: Hello, my friends
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 10:07 pm
by Max
Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:04 pm
Worship Mars? (Or Mars gods like Horus?)
Thank you, sir.