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Hello again,

I'm in need of some guidance as I'm struggling to work out what the hell to do for a career/job. So far I've made some pretty poor decisions which have led me to the point I'm at now, which is unemployed, still living at home and no idea what to do. I've accepted the fact that some of this may be out of my hands (Neptune) but I refuse to give up without a fight. I've also realised that Neptune has affected me in the form of an inferiority complex (Neptune-Sun?) which I've been overcoming gradually and I feel I'm now ready to set my sights a bit higher.

As the title says, I'm also keen on the idea of going to university as the one thing I love in life is learning so I'm trying to figure out what subjects would be the best fit for me and also what career paths might be a good fit. I'm sure I don't need to emphasise the fact that I'm driven by selfless motives so I'm looking for a path that helps people in some way or at least contributes to the betterment of society.

Some of the subjects I've been thinking of studying are law, politics, physics or philosophy but really I'm open to anything if my chart indicates that it would be a good fit. I'm also open to the possibility that I'm completely missing the mark so fire away :)

Thanks for your time,

Danny
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A great place to start would be this well-respected and affordable career assessment questionnaire.

http://www.self-directed-search.com/?gc ... _YQAvD_BwE

But I’m interested in what others see in your chart as well.
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Name on forum: Danny
Birth date: April 5, 1990
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Thanks for your input Lance, unfortunately the link you provided doesn't seem to be working. I'd certainly be interested in completing something like that though.
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With such a strong Neptune presence in your chart, with your Sun in Pisces, the Sun receiving a partile square from Neptune (common among "enormously successful politicians"), Venus receiving a partile octile from Neptune, and Neptune being angular, I'd say you'd do well in a career in politics. Almost all of these configurations have something to do with weaving a web of illusions to capture public imagination, and all of them together I think should amount to exceptional ability toward this end. The only trouble here is having conviction in a set of principles that you'd like to advance to the world, since with Neptune we sometimes get an excess of changeableness and a lack of sustaining faith in anything. But I believe this can be overcome by defining to yourself what matters most, which seems to be sympathy and compassion for others. You also have brilliant aspects to your Mercury and I think you'd do well in a career that requires you to sway and charm with your words, I have no doubts you'd have much success in doing so.
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Only if you have a love for movies, you may consider a career in the commercial theater business. If so, pm me, I have a ton of experience in the commercial theater business. Or, you may consider a career in the acting (Actors) business if this presents any kind of opportunity in the future, only if desirable.
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http://www.self-directed-search.com

Seems it costs 10 bucks.
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All the Neptune...

If I’m correct, it would be any form of inspirational reality weaving.

Politician, motivational speaking, preaching, advocating for a group, etc.
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Danny wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:46 am Hello again,

I'm in need of some guidance as I'm struggling to work out what the hell to do for a career/job. So far I've made some pretty poor decisions which have led me to the point I'm at now, which is unemployed, still living at home and no idea what to do. I've accepted the fact that some of this may be out of my hands (Neptune) but I refuse to give up without a fight. I've also realised that Neptune has affected me in the form of an inferiority complex (Neptune-Sun?) which I've been overcoming gradually and I feel I'm now ready to set my sights a bit higher.

As the title says, I'm also keen on the idea of going to university as the one thing I love in life is learning so I'm trying to figure out what subjects would be the best fit for me and also what career paths might be a good fit. I'm sure I don't need to emphasise the fact that I'm driven by selfless motives so I'm looking for a path that helps people in some way or at least contributes to the betterment of society.

Some of the subjects I've been thinking of studying are law, politics, physics or philosophy but really I'm open to anything if my chart indicates that it would be a good fit. I'm also open to the possibility that I'm completely missing the mark so fire away :)

Thanks for your time,

Danny
I would suggest that you study drama and communication.
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Danny, I've had little time this week while working at a remote, and I'm happy others have been actively engaging on your question. I have a few new things to say, but want to start by saying that the character traits that I think would most define the most thriving careers for you are those that I summarized in my original breakdown of your chart here:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=11 ... 980#p21992

First: Neptune on Midheaven and Sun-Neptune aspects make this a tough question. Until one finds one's distinctive niche, a basic manifestation is uncertainty or amorphousness about life-direction and purpose. Most people find it easier at first to be variable, shifting, moving through different things, not pinning anything down, mutable, wandering,. In fact (haven't thought of this before), the very spirit of wandering, whether physically or psychologically, is a probable clue to what fits the pattern. Part of what "works best" for a life-path starts with the idea that one shouldn't pick a path that has one's identity locked into too concrete and firmly-defined a form - which is surely why your chart has so much in common with charts of great actors.

I think too much emphasis has been placed on politics in the above. As a rule, Neptune is not a political planet. Politics (and the astrological patterns of politicians) are primarily about power and economics, which are not Neptune themes. The one study suggesting a connection is a collection of 99 heads of state from one point in the 1970s - all national leaders on the planet, a mixture of presidents, prime ministers, and monarchs - where Sun-Neptune aspects were common. As I recall that study, the aspect patterns that predominated were primarily those that would thrive from living in a palace or mansion (e.g., Venus-Jupiter) and generally maintaining a grand public illusion.

But Pisces Suns are quite average for U.S. Presidents, as are Sun-Neptune aspects (e.g., half as many as Moon-Jupiter), and politicians overall don't have heavily Neptune-driven charts.
Danny wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:46 am Some of the subjects I've been thinking of studying are law, politics, physics or philosophy but really I'm open to anything if my chart indicates that it would be a good fit.
While studying, subjects can hold our attention that lead to jobs we wouldn't do. That is, you need to think about what you would actually be doing in a job. For example, the study o philosophy would surely interest you, but what would you then choose to do with a philosophy degree? Those are usually teaching jobs, and yes, your chart would fit well with teaching., It would likely involve writing - college professors have to produce product to further their tenure track. Can you see yourself as an academic, living the life of a professor and writer, for example? - And so on for each of these areas.

I still see the greatest match to acting, though that might not be the specific field; but in what other ways would you love employing the native malleability, empathy, flair for image and presentation, and the rest of an actor.

I think you should take as many speech classes as you can. The introductory ones are usually good, but also debate and different styles of speech. This will let you test many of the areas in which you have interest, e.g., it would be of value in politics, teaching, and more.

Physics is intriguing. Pisces-Cancer has a side that relates well to theoretical constructs. Einstein was a Pisces, though he also wasn't a typical physicist. What would you do
if you took that road? Teach? Research? Something totally outside the usual definition? The life of a research scientist is more of a Saturn thing because it involves doing the same thing rigorously over and over again for decades, with as little variation or wandering as possible - and Saturn is angular for eminent scientists, which does not match your chart.

Perhaps this is useful.
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sotonye wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:20 pm With such a strong Neptune presence in your chart, with your Sun in Pisces, the Sun receiving a partile square from Neptune (common among "enormously successful politicians"), Venus receiving a partile octile from Neptune, and Neptune being angular, I'd say you'd do well in a career in politics. Almost all of these configurations have something to do with weaving a web of illusions to capture public imagination, and all of them together I think should amount to exceptional ability toward this end. The only trouble here is having conviction in a set of principles that you'd like to advance to the world, since with Neptune we sometimes get an excess of changeableness and a lack of sustaining faith in anything. But I believe this can be overcome by defining to yourself what matters most, which seems to be sympathy and compassion for others. You also have brilliant aspects to your Mercury and I think you'd do well in a career that requires you to sway and charm with your words, I have no doubts you'd have much success in doing so.
I do have a lot of interest in politics but the point you made about the trouble in having conviction in a set of principles you'd like to advance to the world is definitely a stumbling point for me as I do seem to be prone to shifting stances when new information comes along. I appreciate your input, thanks.
SteveS wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:37 pm Only if you have a love for movies, you may consider a career in the commercial theater business. If so, pm me, I have a ton of experience in the commercial theater business. Or, you may consider a career in the acting (Actors) business if this presents any kind of opportunity in the future, only if desirable.
I do love my movies but I have to admit that I'm unfamiliar with the commercial theatre business and the acting world but I think I'm going to check it out and see if anything strikes a chord as from what little I do know, the lifestyle is certainly appealing. If something does strike me then I'll definitely take you up on that, thanks a lot Steve.
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:33 pm http://www.self-directed-search.com

Seems it costs 10 bucks.
Thanks for re-posting that.
Lance wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:09 am All the Neptune...

If I’m correct, it would be any form of inspirational reality weaving.

Politician, motivational speaking, preaching, advocating for a group, etc.
I've always had a fear of public speaking and that's niggled me over the years so I think I'm going to work towards overcoming that and see what opportunities arise. Thanks Lance.
Veronica wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:13 am
I would suggest that you study drama and communication.
Thanks for your input Veronica, I think I'm going to explore drama and see where that takes me.

Jim,

I'm usually very optimistic about where I'm heading but I recently had to quit yet another job I enjoyed because of health problems so I think the knock back has made me a little disillusioned.
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am Most people find it easier at first to be variable, shifting, moving through different things, not pinning anything down, mutable, wandering,.
Yeah I think I'm trying to pin myself down when that's not what I need. I have to admit it feels kinda wrong trying to settle on something so perhaps I need to restore my faith in continuing to wander and allow everything to fall into place as and when it does. Your comments here have been very helpful.
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am I think too much emphasis has been placed on politics in the above.
Yeah I have to say, while I'm very interested in politics I have no desire for power so if I was to go into politics it would likely be as a political scientist working in the background. I am very passionate about changing the political system we currently have but to work in the existing establishment would likely be a problem for me.
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am While studying, subjects can hold our attention that lead to jobs we wouldn't do. That is, you need to think about what you would actually be doing in a job. For example, the study o philosophy would surely interest you, but what would you then choose to do with a philosophy degree? Those are usually teaching jobs, and yes, your chart would fit well with teaching., It would likely involve writing - college professors have to produce product to further their tenure track. Can you see yourself as an academic, living the life of a professor and writer, for example? - And so on for each of these areas.
That's really helpful, I think I'll go back to the drawing board and really think about if I'd want to actually work in these areas as I have been focusing on just studying the subject.
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am I still see the greatest match to acting, though that might not be the specific field; but in what other ways would you love employing the native malleability, empathy, flair for image and presentation, and the rest of an actor.
Yeah I think I'm going to explore acting and drama as it's a field I know very little about but what I do know is most of the jobs/careers out there aren't for me so it might be just what I'm looking for.
Jim Eshelman wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am Physics is intriguing. Pisces-Cancer has a side that relates well to theoretical constructs. Einstein was a Pisces, though he also wasn't a typical physicist. What would you do
if you took that road? Teach? Research? Something totally outside the usual definition? The life of a research scientist is more of a Saturn thing because it involves doing the same thing rigorously over and over again for decades, with as little variation or wandering as possible - and Saturn is angular for eminent scientists, which does not match your chart.
You're spot on Jim, I have no interest in the research/experimental side of it, purely the theoretical and my interest in it came about recently when I watched a documentary explaining how quantum physics has/is validating what the mystics taught so as I study mysticism I thought this subject might be complimentary but I could be wrong. I'm still exploring this and have no idea what I'd do with a physics degree, probably not a lot haha.

Thanks a lot for the advice.
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Do you write? Do you enjoy the process?
Political speechwriter.
technical writer with a concentration on physics.
Fantasy fiction.
All kinds of possibilities. If you write and if you enjoy it.
I mean you have that Mercury in there.
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Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:13 am Do you write? Do you enjoy the process?
Political speechwriter.
technical writer with a concentration on physics.
Fantasy fiction.
All kinds of possibilities. If you write and if you enjoy it.
I mean you have that Mercury in there.
You know what, I absolutely love writing but I don't do a lot of it. At one point I was looking into freelance writing and I honestly can't think why I never pursued it as the process is something I enjoy very much. Thank you very much for your input, I think this may well be the path I take :D
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There is a lot going on in your chart. I will say that while Neptune and Mercury have very important rolls in your chart they're are many other possibilities as well.

I see a Moon opposed an exalted Mars both square Pluto, a Venus sign of Aquarius (venus could be a good career indicator if you follow your passions honestly) backed by an angular Uranus which squares your sun.

The signs of Mars and Venus, the angularity of Uranus and the involvement with Pluto and the luminaries I see a chart that has a deep rooted sense of sexual energy, the physicality of Mars coupled with the freedom from Uranus and Venus. While your luminaries share similar themes of drama and fantasy I believe that channelling that free sexual energy through your mercury (mind) could make you anything from an erotic fantasy author to an educated sex therapist (no I'm not saying be a pornstar).

While the Sun and Moon are great indicators of our personality much more of the world is convinced by our actions (Mars) and we do those actions for the things we love (Venus). Also that Uranus is with the MC so I'm thinking your answers in terms of what work you will do in your lifetime lie there.
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Beanies+Bad habits wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:46 pm There is a lot going on in your chart. I will say that while Neptune and Mercury have very important rolls in your chart they're are many other possibilities as well.

I see a Moon opposed an exalted Mars both square Pluto, a Venus sign of Aquarius (venus could be a good career indicator if you follow your passions honestly) backed by an angular Uranus which squares your sun.

The signs of Mars and Venus, the angularity of Uranus and the involvement with Pluto and the luminaries I see a chart that has a deep rooted sense of sexual energy, the physicality of Mars coupled with the freedom from Uranus and Venus. While your luminaries share similar themes of drama and fantasy I believe that channelling that free sexual energy through your mercury (mind) could make you anything from an erotic fantasy author to an educated sex therapist (no I'm not saying be a pornstar).

While the Sun and Moon are great indicators of our personality much more of the world is convinced by our actions (Mars) and we do those actions for the things we love (Venus). Also that Uranus is with the MC so I'm thinking your answers in terms of what work you will do in your lifetime lie there.
My apologies for the late reply, I haven't been on since I last posted.

Those are some interesting observations, I do think Uranus plays a larger role as I'm an avid seeker of truth which could partly explain why I'm not really drawn to anything that involves immersing myself too much in fantasy (acting), then again it could just be a phase as I'm pretty sure Uranus is transiting my natal Mercury at the moment.

You're not wrong about the sexual energy haha. I've been trying to find ways to transmute it for higher purposes and I've had some success but I'm far from mastering it. Fortunately I have no interest in becoming a pornstar but writing erotic stories is something I actually used to do when I was a teenager so you could be on to something there.

Thanks for your input!
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