Veronica

Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:15 pm

Happy Birthday.

FlorencedeZ. · Post by **FlorencedeZ.** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:31 pm

Happy Birthday, Happy Solar Return Veronica.
Wishing you a lovely day.
May the year bring you happiness and many good things coming to you.
Regards,
Flo

Avshalom Binyamin · Post by **Avshalom Binyamin** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Happy birthday, V!

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:49 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:15 pm Happy Birthday.

Thank You Jupiter

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:52 pm

FlorencedeZ. wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:31 pm Happy Birthday, Happy Solar Return Veronica.
Wishing you a lovely day.
May the year bring you happiness and many good things coming to you.
Regards,
Flo

Thank You Flo!
Its a beautiful snowy day here.
I love fresh falling snow.
If I can find happiness and good things in a New York Wintery Day....Im sure my year is going to be splendid indeed. Thank you for the sentiments they do touch my heart.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:52 pm

Avshalom Binyamin wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:01 pm Happy birthday, V!

Thank You Bro!!

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:56 pm

In case anyone wants to dance.....

This ones on me

https://youtu.be/w3vl28KSJUQ

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:11 am

Ya know what I just realized.....

Every year we all get a new solar return.

But only every eight years does the Beloved Venus arrive home.

A solar/ venus return year is a wonderous thing.
Wonderous enough that even if She brings two BadAsses with Her She outshines them in Her Beauty.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:23 am

I did something that I think is horrible.
I did it because I was frustrated and in pain and confused and a host of psychological garbage.
It doesnt make it right though and I want to make it right.

I fell in love with a man.
It didnt work out.
I didnt understand why.
I wanted to know why.

Well the why was me.

I wanted him to understand me.
I wanted him to see my side.
I wanted him and was going to do anything I could to have him.
Because I have alot of human psychological garbage that compelled my desire to feel love and have something to love.

I came to this forum again to try and understand myself...last spring...and you all listened and shared your insights into my character in a kind delicate way. But your not fools.

I tried to work things out in my own head and heart but I was trapped in my own garbage thinking. Negative aspects if you will.

I hurt so bad all over and inside. It was killing me.

When I out of frustration broke Craigs window in a fit of jealous rage I also did something else.

I sent him a link to the forum.

Im sure some of you know that. And I did tell Jim.

Im sorry that I did that and I feel that I have to be honest and own up to my slimey behavior.

You all trusted me and I betrayed that.

I cant take it back. I would if I could.

So Ill just leave it at that. I dont have the words to express my self dissappointment. Im sorry. Thank you all for being kind and upfront and honest. Its not something I have in my circle of real life people and I admire you all and sincerely aspire to bring those qualities out in myself.

Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:55 pm

I don't think he knows (or cares) who we are, and I doubt he finds much of what we discuss here interesting. While others may be concerned, I'm not.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:31 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:55 pm I don't think he knows (or cares) who we are, and I doubt he finds much of what we discuss here interesting. While others may be concerned, I'm not.

Thank you
I appreciate that.
I think he knows a lot and cares a lot.
And you and the members do not have anything to be concerned about. He is a great man and I would do anything for him.

FlorencedeZ. · Post by **FlorencedeZ.** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:43 am

I think it's quite nice you directed him here since it is a forum open for all to read and study.
And I think people will notice the integrity of the board members immediately studying Sidereal astrology here.

Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:23 am Because I have alot of human psychological garbage that compelled my desire to feel love and have something to love.

Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:23 am I tried to work things out in my own head and heart but I was trapped in my own garbage thinking. Negative aspects if you will.

Veronica wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:23 am Im sorry that I did that and I feel that I have to be honest and own up to my slimey behavior.

I think you put a negative spin on your well being by thinking this amongst other things about yourself. Your are wired to feel things deeply, your gift and are a true unbiased helper with a good heart. No need to put yourself down and maybe is was about time to smash a window. Remember, it's the 'idea' about him that keeps you going in your synastry with Craig. He seems like a real nice guy indeed but you may idealize him.

Becoming aware of the pattern doesn't erase the time you had with Craig imo. That stays forever and may give you the inspiration to move forward to the next chapter of your life to be able to be open to new things and new people. The sweetest revenge (very attractive for a Scorpio Moon

is living well.

) I hope I am not sounding condescending, my native language is not english so bare with me

Regards,
Flo

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:00 pm

As always Flo your language barrier never comes across when you speak, to me at least, for you speak with love in your voice which come through crystal clear. I always tried to teach my children to speak with love in thier voice. Its an important part of effective communication and you IMO has mastered it.

Flo wrote:
"I think it's quite nice you directed him here since it is a forum open for all to read and study.
And I think people will notice the integrity of the board members immediately studying Sidereal astrology here. "

Thank you for saying so. I dont like talking behind peoples back and I try not to and this matter was so upsetting that I had to talk about it, and I knew this was the only place where I would be understood. Sidereal Astrology as a tool for self understanding and healing is the most effective form of psychological pathworking/therapy. Any soul stumbling upon this forum will immediately notice the caliber and integrity of the practioners here. I want to break bad habits of miscommunication that I have and felt it was his right to know what exactly I was saying and feeling. Imagine the horrible feeling one would have if by some chance you stumbled on a conversation all about you....the universe works in funny ways and I needed to explore this and felt that if he wanted to as well he should be able to.

Veronica wrote: ↑
Because I have alot of human psychological garbage that compelled my desire to feel love and have something to love.
Veronica wrote: ↑
I tried to work things out in my own head and heart but I was trapped in my own garbage thinking. Negative aspects if you will.
Veronica wrote: ↑
Im sorry that I did that and I feel that I have to be honest and own up to my slimey behavior.
Flo wrote

"I think you put a negative spin on your well being by thinking this amongst other things about yourself. "

I appreciate you saying so but I honestly feel that there was allready a negative spin created by me not being upfront from the get go, and those yucky feelings I have had for the past few months about it were because of that initial mistep in judgement. I feel better, cleaner and more balanced now that I have been honest.

Flo wrote

"Your are wired to feel things deeply, your gift and are a true unbiased helper with a good heart. No need to put yourself down and maybe is was about time to smash a window. "

Your kind to remind me of my gifts. Sometimes they feel hard to live with. My astrology, all of it, natal, midpoints, progressions and returns do completely articulate Me and my connection to the world at large. Being wired like I am makes relating very difficult somtimes and I am grateful for the people I have in my life who try and understand me and relate to me and encouage and inspire me as challenging as it is. Breaking a window seemed a better choice then breaking myself.

Flo wrote

"Remember, it's the 'idea' about him that keeps you going in your synastry with Craig. He seems like a real nice guy indeed but you may idealize him."

He is a real nice guy. I wouldnt have spent 5 years with him if he wasnt. We have no children or shared property or any physical ties. We are free adults who can do what ever they want. We can walk away from anything or anyone at any time we wish. We both have that angular pluto action working for us. As adults though I believe we recognize our inner needs and in a funny way click nicely to try and help each other meet those nonmaterial needs.
Your words there are rich with much deeper wisdom then they superficially seem.
My charts specifically denote the character istic of idealizing my beloved as well as deeper facets of desire and higher agape love. Our synasty and composite tell of this as well. I have known this man for almost 40years in many forms. The situation that I believe unfolded was that my psyche was in a place where it wanted a concrete/solid form to project and reflect. I do believe from what he said to me that his psyche as well wanted that Perfect Ideal person. But that robs him of growth, robs us both. For if I hold in my mind the ideal and call it Perfect then thats akin to death. It limits his growth , it locks him into a way of being and being seen and In a very real way becomes a powerstruggle: my psyche saying I love you just like this dont change I want you just this way and his psyche either stagnating to stay the same to selfsacrifice himself to make me happy, or fighting back and doing all to be unlike that which I had idealized. To preserve his right to be authentical himself. Idealiizing someone is a very very fine line to walk. It obviously has a place and use in development and a correct way to manage those feeling that I do naturally have towards him as shown in our chart.........

Flo wrote
"Becoming aware of the pattern doesn't erase the time you had with Craig imo. That stays forever and may give you the inspiration to move forward to the next chapter of your life to be able to be open to new things and new people."

Nothing will ever erase that time. It is. Forever.
He will always be the funny kid in the lunch room.
The badass middle schooler smoking cigs off school property.
The hot teenager riding quads in the field
The sexy highschooler withe the car and cell phone....
Ect ect ideal ideal ideal
He holds all those trophies a girl will have in her heart
And then the girl became a woman who really got to know the man and let the man really know her.
Ideal ideal ideal
But what you all know is that time moves on and things change. And to lock him in my heart as the ideal isnt the way to bring all that is a potential to its highest aspect. We are all dynamic individuals with the essence of the force of life coursing through our veins and heart.

I am inspired. Im inspired to see what else life will bring . Im inspired to try new things and push my comfort zone and explore my potential. I am inspired everyday to rise anew and refreshed and see what other newness life has. I dont want to look at things the same old way and to see people in the same light because that dimishes the viral essence of life that flows through everything.

The sweetest revenge (very attractive for a Scorpio Moon;) is living well.

) I hope I am not sounding condescending, my native language is not english so bare with me

Regards,
Flo

Sweet Flo you do not at all sound condenseding.
You say the sweetest things.
You sound brilliant and full of deep wisdom.

Revenge: thats a deep well to drink from. I have heard so many ugly stories of revenge. Breaks my heart.

You know that I have no desire to seek revenge upon anyone. Its not my nature to act on that. I am human and in the heat of a moment have had thoughts of justice for some deeds, for sure as that is a human trait we all share.

But im too kind and thoughtful and way to sensitive. Kind in that I truly know that we are all connected. We are all one. We all have the same essence coursing through our hearts and that anything I do to another, in all reality I am doing to myself. To harm another is to harm myself. That is fact.

I have no reason at all to want any sort of revenge on anything on this planet. I dont need to "show them" by moving on and being well and sucessful. That line of thinking is negative. It denotes that I have given my power away to someone and that my ego feels threatened and I need to assert that I am better then them by being better off without them. I know many people who had this thought and it always blows up in thier face because it comes from a place of fear anger and insecurity. One should live well for one lives.

But.....thats not what you meant....or what you said.
You are soooooo correct when you say the sweetest revenge is living well.

Only I am to blame for my mistakes in life, my troubles, my woes and pain. No one did anything to me. All those hurts and messed up thoughts and down ward spirals were because of my own thought construct, my own patterns of behaviors and my own perseceptions of my environment. All the things that a human could say they need revenge for are just illusions perpetuated by the ego to survive. Every last one.
If indeed though I did feel the need for revenge there would be only two real things to blame.....myself....and Im not going to seek revegnge on myself for myself...thats just suicidal and Im not suicidal....and the Universe.
The sweetest revenge is living well.

I could very well though say: F you universe for giving me this crazy birthchart and all its super challenging aspects that just seemingly suck eggs. F you universe for making those planets move just so and messing up my environment and making things harder. F you universe for giving me a relationship that is outa this world and then having those damn planets move again and mess it all up again. I could say f you universe for hitting me with all this trouble and for hitting all my friends and loved ones and just being a big pain in the aff.
If any thoughts of revenge should be acted on it should be by saying ....is that all you got...you hit like a bitch. I am ready willing and able to navigate any storm that comes my way. I had my heart ripped in two and Im still here, still in love and ready for what ever life is going to toss at me.

But Again....revenge is for those who dont know the interconnected of all life. I know in my heart that the universe is on myside and wants me to thrive. Everything else is an illusion.
Im not going to do anything but live well because I am the living well.

Thank you for you understanding and your inspiration.
I hope my million and one words were enough to clarify my deep feelings and articulate my understanding of this funny thing called life
I am grateful that you share your understanding and wisdom with not only me but the whole world.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:39 pm

I look at my progressed mars conjunct my natal venus and I know what that means in some respects.
But my natal venus is also my midpoint of my sun and moon and neptune and jupiter. And my mars and mercury.

It is viceral. To the max.

I truelly believe that there has to be something good in this.
My mind wants to have something to hold onto, a reason. A because.
But I know reason is a curse.
My heart tries to reach out for that strong scorpio mars I have to have the courage to say "you are stronger then this, have faith"
And pluto and sun try to chime in that I can do and be....
That others have endured more

That it will pass

That "I" will make something good out of nothing.

That I can take that transit
And turn it on myself
Like no one else would know how to.

And that would be good and right and the proper thing to do.

Instead of the old way which statistically is where the definition comes from if Im not mistaken.

Viceral hurts deep deep inside.
I never knew how deep I was till I felt this and its been quite a while now.

Im sick of it.

And in 5-10 years itll be long gone.

I dont want to do the behaviors associated with this. Ive tried and tried.
I know one way to stop, like a jugernaught.

Just letting you know my psychological dealings with this and how I have been aware of it for a while and have come to the conclusion that I had better accept it and transform it and not allow it to break me and go the way most people do.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:33 am

Thank you for understanding Danica and giving me the finer points.
Reminding me of that midpoint was like receiving a beautiful rose.
Im lucky to have such a beautiful friend like you.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:54 am

That viceral feeling....

I realized what it reminded me of.

A feeling of dread in my gut as a child
A compulsion to keep the peace
A confusion of uncertain origin

Parts of me are Irish
And I love St. Patrick
But I hate St. Patricks day
And weekends
And New Years

Because I get that feeling so deep deep down. A poison in a way. A dread. A fear. Of others, out of control.

Danica my little rose, you know me very well.
Did you see that right now my Progressed Sun and Progressed Uranus have my natal venus as a midpoint too?
Im sure you did.
But you knew that was something I had to find for myself.

Living well like Flo said is a right we all have.

I have a program and I cant make others do anything.
I can only be me and be the best me I know how.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:32 pm

My next year Solar return has transiting venus square my natal venus ( which is conjunct transiting moon, jupiter and widely pluto)

I noticed in the transit to transit section there are no mentions of venus to venus, or mars to mars or any transiting planet to its self in the natal chart.

Is that because it is just "more of the same plantary nature" and does not really bring anything else to the table?

Saturn/venus/pluto this year has been pretty much textbook so far (or should I say...not pretty and doesnt feel nice but I think Feb/ march was the worst of it and now its just a feeling in the background).

The angular Jupiter has brought great blessings that released some deep financial stress. Which is nice and I hope continues and I am working to maje that real.

Mercury/neptune.....hurts. Very much. My skin is not so tough. Im a dreamer at heart and believe in fairy tales.

But that angular Jupiter......restores my faith in Higher Powers and deeper meanings and connections and gives me the conviction to be true to what my heart says....and not my mind.

I am very much looking forward to Easter and all the magic that comes with that.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:59 pm

The Saturn transit to my Venus (conjunct widely to Pluto) has been a difficult time for me.

Ive tried to grin n bear it.

Its felt like it has lessened up....as Saturn has moved on. I have been ....feeling better and having more happy moments.

In fact I was really thinking that my Solar Return....which has a conjunction of Saturn and Pluto and my natal Venus....wouldnt bring as much difficulty and challenges as I had originally felt it would. Espically these past few weeks when I had felt better in my mind and heart then I have in way to long.

And Im sure some of you know where I am going with this.

I looked ahead a few months at a time to watch the planets move like I like too....

And I saw it.
I saw how Saturn turns retrograde and moves back.

I know it wont last
And I know in a year it will really have moved on and left my beloved Venus field of play.

That boxer, who would get back in the ring....
Knowing he was going to possibly end up with califlower ears and a mangled face....
But he got back in the ring
Because he loved the fight

I know, in my own way
How he felt
And why hed do it

When a planet moves like that, and transits back and forth across a natal planet, how do you interpret that?
Like if i was looking at someones chart for the first time and saw that (ie a planet transiting a natal but moving forward and then retro and the forward again) would say....your in for a rollercoaster like expierence...?
It seems that the psychological implications are very deep.

Its like....
I used every single tool in my toolbox to help me get through that...and not turn into a jaded bitter hurt nasty person...to be better then the way I felt/perceived I was treated....
And i got through it.
And I was almost in the clear
And then the universe says
Lets see if you really remember what tools you used and how you overcame that challenge, have at it one more time.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:16 pm

Veronica, I was thinking of you the last day or two... that you hadn't been here in an unusually long while... and was hoping you were doing well.

Veronica wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:59 pm When a planet moves like that, and transits back and forth across a natal planet, how do you interpret that?
Like if i was looking at someones chart for the first time and saw that (ie a planet transiting a natal but moving forward and then retro and the forward again) would say....your in for a rollercoaster like expierence...?
It seems that the psychological implications are very deep.

Life is like that... like a tide that ebbs and flows on some matter of experience or instruction. (Or perhaps our readiness for it ebbs and flows.) In terms of learning the lesson of transit, i.e., incorporating something new into ourselves, there usually need to be times for subconsciousness to assimilate and process what we've already gotten so that we come back to the next phase a little different.

In a practical way, I think of the duration of these long-term aspects as lasting uninterruptedly from the time they first go into a 1° orb until the time they last leave it. That entire time is a single lesson, a single phrase of transmutation. We go into it without certain traits or experience so we first get a taste of it, and then we're different when the lesson presents itself anew. (Sometimes it is longer than "first partile to last partile" because, if it falls near the angles of a lunar return, the transit "counts" if it's within, say, 5°orb.)

In your case, Saturn first entered 1° orb of conjunct your Venus January 25 this year, and it leaves for the last time November 12 of this year. You fit it all into less than 11 months. Along the way, it is exact three times, on February 3, August 6, and October 30.

Ah, but that February 3 one is the tricky one, potentially: That's close to your birthday. For a moment I thought this meant it was partile in your Solar Return, but it isn't. However, your Solar Return does have its own 0°39' Venus-Saturn conjunction. You finish your personal transmutation in the mysteries of Saturn to your Venus my November 12, but you still have Venus-Saturn events and circumstances in your life until your next birthday. But you encounter those as someone who has been through the process of transforming her relationship to the energy.

So yes, you have work to do on yourself this year (which makes it exactly like every other year you can remember, right?).

Welcome back.

PS - I have a progressed Venus-Saturn conjunction in partile orb 2017 to 2025.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:25 am

Jim wrote

"Veronica, I was thinking of you the last day or two... that you hadn't been here in an unusually long while... and was hoping you were doing well."

Smiles
Awe shucks, thats sweet to hear.
Even better to feel it.
And thats actually where I am right about now.
I think your the Bees Knees ya know;)
The pearls you drop.....
I string them alltogether
Keep em away from the swine
And when Im not doing as well as I think I can, I pull them out and look at how a simple grain of sand...mixed with the spit of a spineless mullusk...turns into a whole new world. Pearls of Wisdom indeed. I tell ya...you should write a book with all that...oh, wait...nevermind.

I have a little of a consuption issue (mars/mercury?)....in that...when I like something....anything....I kinda...overdoes on it. All my passions. I dive in so deep and hard. Somethings like gardening just make my body tired. Some things like singing make my voice tired. Somethings like math and science make my mind tired. And somethings like astrology and deep psychology (which IMHO there is no difference) makes my heart and soul tired.

Like a hangover

I felt like I had an astrology hangover and was so wrapped up in its implications that I was not able to relate to the people in my real life in any meaningful or positive way, like I was outa touch with the solid earth and its daily grind.

Last december right before the Holidays my coworker had a tragic event. He 40year old son who 4x times over the legal limit at 11am crashed his car. He crashed it into a womans car. A mother of three. Both cars burst into flames. She was burned alive. He survived but barely. He has a past history of dwi. Sucks. My co worker has pretty much been on a leave from work since then. They havnt hired anyone to fill her slot. Its been pretty much me alone running the Library, as my libraruan is off teaching all day. Its alot of work. Its a huge school.

Its been a funny thing though because through these kids I have learned alot and made some very unlikely friends. Its a strange thing to see who comes to the library and for what purpose. I have about 150 regulars...kids who I see everyday....and about 200 non regulars...those who come once in a great while.

Those kids who regularly come, they are a strange bunch. The outcasts the troublmakers, the brainyacks, the shy, the socialites......labels of course but they do fit.

I greet every single one of them, its my job. I talk to them. I get to know them and call them by name. Its imporant to learn there names. It gives them something. Something empowering and real.

The other day I was alone with about 30 kids and the speaker came on and it said
"This is a lock down. This is not a drill. Go to your desinated place."

Sooooo....
Yea.
Im supposed to be charge and keep these little babes alive if someobe goes columbine.

Its not a good feeling.
The kids really have no clue how crazy some people are and what bad things they will do with that crazy.

Put me in a bad mood for a couple of days. Mad as hell that I have to learn what to do in a school in case someone gets crazy.

I was in a car accident about a month ago. After about 6 major car break downs this past winter. Had just got new brake lines, was driving in the city and the suv infront stops abruptly. I stop. Right on his bumper. Barely missed. Then some chicka is flying down the road doesnt stop and smashes into me from vehibd so gard that we are forced under the Suv. Like my car nose shoveled it up and onto my hood so the bumper of tge suv is right at my windshield.

That scared me hard for quite sometime. I could barely drive. I would cry. I was so scared that at any minute some one could smash me and that be it
Id be dead. Then who would take care of my kids. It was hard moving through that fear.

But thats where my good ol scorpionic jupiter helps. Helps me untie those knots that bind and restrict and get to the source. Like JSAD said...even if Im dead The Goddess will still use me. Worm food at the very least.
Veronica wrote: ↑
When a planet moves like that, and transits back and forth across a natal planet, how do you interpret that?
Like if i was looking at someones chart for the first time and saw that (ie a planet transiting a natal but moving forward and then retro and the forward again) would say....your in for a rollercoaster like expierence...?
It seems that the psychological implications are very deep.
Jim said
"Life is like that... like a tide that ebbs and flows on some matter of experience or instruction. (Or perhaps our readiness for it ebbs and flows.) In terms of learning the lesson of transit, i.e., incorporating something new into ourselves, there usually need to be times for subconsciousness to assimilate and process what we've already gotten so that we come back to the next phase a little different."

That sounds like pearls being made.
Layers on layers.

Jim said
"In a practical way, I think of the duration of these long-term aspects as lasting uninterruptedly from the time they first go into a 1° orb until the time they last leave it. That entire time is a single lesson, a single phrase of transmutation. We go into it without certain traits or experience so we first get a taste of it, and then we're different when the lesson presents itself anew. (Sometimes it is longer than "first partile to last partile" because, if it falls near the angles of a lunar return, the transit "counts" if it's within, say, 5°orb.)

In your case, Saturn first entered 1° orb of conjunct your Venus January 25 this year, and it leaves for the last time November 12 of this year. You fit it all into less than 11 months. Along the way, it is exact three times, on February 3, August 6, and October 30.

Ah, but that February 3 one is the tricky one, potentially: That's close to your birthday. For a moment I thought this meant it was partile in your Solar Return, but it isn't. However, your Solar Return does have its own 0°39' Venus-Saturn conjunction. You finish your personal transmutation in the mysteries of Saturn to your Venus my November 12, but you still have Venus-Saturn events and circumstances in your life until your next birthday. But you encounter those as someone who has been through the process of transforming her relationship to the energy."

Thanks. That all makes sence and feels right in my gut. That black hole like pain in my gut is gone at least. That hurt and felt like I was being ripped in Two.
Transmutation....I think thats my middle name.

So yes, you have work to do on yourself this year (which makes it exactly like every other year you can remember, right?).

Yup.
Nailed it.
Pun intended.

There is always work to be done.

Just when I think i have my house all neat n tidy...
The little ants are busy
The hornets are building a nest
The wind blew all the branches down
The list goes on and on.
And my work
On my little bit of stardust
Thats my responsibility

You wanna hear something funny.....

So, life has put me infront of some fellas these past few months. Fellas I can tell think they can handle this tiger. They all get around to asking me the same question.
"So, what do you do for fun?"

Lol.
Jim....you do know Im working on dis empowering that mercurcy/neptune conjunction I have acting on my mars (which I am thankful for)...
So Lol...
I dont say what immediately comes to mind.
That would not be ladylike or dispell where there mind allready is (bc that question is actually a statement I like you and would like to be with you but I dont know how and if we are really relatable so.....i really dont care what you do for fun I just want to kniw if we can do IT together)

Grown ups work.
How do we get rid of pressure and have fun.
Come on...we are grown ups.....what do we do to give us the most positive reinforcement....

So i usually say...
I walk my dog.
I read books.
I grow flowers

What do I do to have fun?
Everything can be fun if you have the right attitude.
A spoonfulasugar.
When I want to have fun....Im me. Im the funnest thing in the whole world. I dont need entertainment. I am entertainment.

I was looking at a car the other day.
The guy said to me....
"Do you need it fast?"

I looked at him, smiled and said
"Its probably not a good idea to put me behind the wheel of a really fast car."
He laughed
And said it was gonna a while to get the paperwork and it wouldnt be availble for a month.

Jim said
"Welcome back."

Thanks! My overdose has left the building and I feel better. Its great to be here:)

Jim said
"PS - I have a progressed Venus-Saturn conjunction in partile orb 2017 to 2025."

I have a spare set of boxing gloves. Its all in the foot work. Keep those feet moving dip n dodge and smile smile smile. When I would box my little brother Id be all smiles and dancing around tge ring and he would get so pumped up and swing so hard...that hed miss and wear himself out.
You float like butterfly and sting like the bees knees.
Im sure youve got this.
But
I gotcha back if you need.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:35 pm

Wishing you the best V for your future.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:29 pm

SteveS wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:35 pm Wishing you the best V for your future.

Thank you Steve!

I love wishes.

Wishes are like dreams
A creative spark of imagination
That opens doors you didnt know exist
To worlds you didnt know existed

Its wishes that make the world go around
A little fire to hold tight too
A dancing moonbeam of possibilites
When things seem cold and hard
A seed of unlimited potentiality.

Watch it grow

Thank you

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:54 am

Ya know,
I dont mean to come across like a whiner.
In thinking about what I shared...
It was pretty negative.
The horrible thing at work
My car issues
Getting hit on

Thats not how I am.
It was more of a commentary on the trying/challenging aspects that life has brought.

But it would be wrong in a very real way to say that "life" brought those to me.

We attract to us everything.
Like JSAD mentioned in the black hole thread....its a gravitational thing. A force we as living bodies of light and matter have to push and pull.

So...that trying challenging stuff going on around me....

Its my perception that makes a difference.

Thats the spoonful of sugar.
Thats why when I want to have "fun"
I just flip that little switch of nitro and let the sun shine out.

I am doing well, and thank you for thinking of me and sending good thoughts my way, they are appreciated and taken to heart.

I was born with a saturn venus aspect so it is something I live with and have felt my whole life. Saturn has transitted my venus before and has worked at disappointing and turning dark the desire and love I have.

Ya know though....
As I look at my charts and see things like that which are concidered terrible uncomfortable challenging soul wrentching....I notice that those aspects arnt alone. There are other things going on, inside and out, to temper and mediate and soften or accentuate the seeming severity. Ie this year my sun and moon are also in opposition/conjunction....which is a beautiful thing.
The unfolding of a persons chart over time, as it progresses has allsorts of checks and balances like that.
That is how life is after all.

Its a set up.

My natal chart was set up and will progress through time and space to bring me somewhere. Each lunar reurn is a set up to bring my subconscious somewhere. Each solar return is a set up to bring my individualality/consciousness somewhere. And it progresses and returns on and on.

I have in my progressed chart right now mars moon and saturn in trine. That is tempering this venus saturn That is going on in my return chart. That saturn venus is a lesson for sure. Responsibilty to love. Its a set up though. A trial to get me ready for a huge aspect in my progressed chart, one that will be with me longer then the fickle moon, a trine of mars saturn and pluto. Power responsibilty and volatility/action. I will have that progression for 20 years almost.

So I am doing well.
I see whats coming and Im prepared and even though I have some bumps and briuses Im gonna be just fine. If life hasnt been able to rip me to shreds yet in the affairs of romantic love it cant. Ive been through it and Im not in the mood for playing head games and power trips.
I have at my own dispossible the ultimate power trip in that configuation and with that I can do everything and anything my heart desires.

Im growing a field of sunflowers this year. And a bunch of white marigolds. Im gonna plant them everywhere and make my neighborhood beautiful. The world is a beautiful place after all, even if it seemingly wants to turn you into worm food. Worms need to eat too.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:36 am

Last year when I was evicted out of my home, Jim very kindly said to me in my moment of selfish woe...
There will be other homes

I know what he meant saying that to me at that moment.

In the great rythems and cycles of space
In the lesser seen patterns of Nature
I fundamentally understand this truth

I admire the work here helping individuals like me striving to understand our place in time and space and to help grapple with meaning and connections, which can so aptly be pointed out with the tool of astrology.

I know though through my attempts to understand the deeper work into mundane astrology that there are greater implications of how an individual s natal chart, working in orchestra with all others are all connected.

David Attenborough has released a new documentary on climate change from the BBC.

I would implore you all to take a moment of time this Holy weekend to hear what he has to say.

We are all connected.
Each choice we make each and every moment ripples out.

While I do believe that life exists elsewhere and even places where humans could live, this is my home, your home, our home for the time being and as my saturn venus aspect would say....the party is over....its time to clean up and everybody do your share because this is the only home we really have right now.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x762zkd

I do have that 1971 conjunction of moon neptune jupiter which some say is an indicator of environmental activism.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:15 am

I do believe Ive been hacked.

Im not going to name names or point fingers....

But for some strange reason
"The Founder of Education Management" from the Greater Los Angles area

Stalked out my Linkedin page....

I have the upgraded account so I see who looks at my page. This account was created....and then deleted.

I dont take stalkers or bullies or psychopatic behaviors lightly. My account never gets views. Its inactive.

I am not intimidated nor concerned...

I have the most beautiful Lunar return starting this afternoon and with Venus square my Asc/dec Im just gonna smile and say...

Ok. What ever.

The difference between me and a lot of other people is that
Im not sneeky or hide in the shadows masturbating ideas if my ego is sore.

Ill walk right up to you if you threaten me and punch you in the nose.

Have a Blessed Easter and Passover everyone

Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:15 am

Stop. Right now.
Let's get something straight.

If you created a LinkedIn Page, and somebody looked at it... that's what's SUPPOSED to happen.

Please do not come here and claim somebody did something malicious by looking at a page people are supposed to look at, and do not claim you were "hacked."
That's NOT what "being hacked" is. Being hacked would be if somebody had broken your password and had changed your page. Or broken your password and was reading your emails from your account.

Let's try to keep the paranoia in check and let's not accuse people because we are angry with them.

This stops here. This thread is locked. Veronica, go for a walk and hide some easter eggs or something.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 am

Steven responded to this which I wanted to share

"Veronica wrote:
Last year I went through some horrible horrible things.
The man I love found another woman My home was forclosed and I was evicted. My daughter was arrested. My money was stolen. My car broke. My exhusband wasnt paying child support and fighting and being abusive to me. I was in crippling pain in my neck and shoulders....I felt like I was caught up in a tornado from hell. I wanted to crawl into a hole and die. Everything made me cry…
Veronica, in 2018, you had one main major Solar Arc (SA) cycle involving an angle, which was in partile orb for the entire year. This was a once in a lifetime angular hit.

SA ASC (22,19 Cancer) 90 NATAL SATURN (22,19 Aries), Exact 4/5/2018

As a supporting SA cycle with the angular hit to Saturn:

SA PLUTO (22,19 Libra) 180 NATAL SATURN (22, Aries), Exact 10/31/2018

It is obvious with the above angular symbolism, Solar Arcs wrote an important script for your life in 2018. Thanks for sharing this painful time period in your life. You survived/prevailed girl."

When you wrote that response Steve, which I am grateful for.....

I felt so sad.

You never know what hell other people are going through.
The person in line at the grocery or dmv......

I am so grateful that I had you all.....
Everysinglereader
With me

It was/is living hell.

It made me look at my exs charts
Jason went through it when I was with him and his manifestion was horrible.
Eric went through it for a large part of the end of our marriage which explains soooooooo much....
Craig hasnt yet.....

I feel like a grade a jerk for not being capable of being more understanding towards J And Eric.

The hell I went through was because my past choices caught up with me. Like Karma. Every last lie on all levels.
As a person who has worked hard to have integrity to be authentic to myself....it made me realize how I compromised my true self with my intimate relationships and instead of being forthright I ignored avoided and miscommunicated.

I have a fresh face and new understanding of why it is so vital to be true and honest and have integrity.
Its like going to a chiropractor and having them have to break all your bones and reset them so your balanced.

Thank you everyone for bearing with me as I muddled my way. I am so thankful that in my darkest hours I knew where to turn to see the light.

Its getting better. Its getting easier being alone and Im ferling that soon I maybe ready to have some friends and not have to hide myself and be who I really am.

How could I have been anyones love of there life when I wasnt the real me all the time.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:17 am

Veronica wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 am How could I have been anyones love of there life when I wasnt the real me all the time.

Dang. Painfully insightful..

Maybe it's just where we were and what we needed at the time. Personally, I can't regret everything. I can't feel like I did it wrong or that it was all a mistake. I needed it all so badly. For a time, it was so deeply good for me. But then the heavens declared one chapter was over, and another began - one where I have to be more true to myself to be fulfilled.

Anyway.

Here's hoping good things for you.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:09 pm

Lance wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:17 am
Veronica wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 am How could I have been anyones love of there life when I wasnt the real me all the time.
Dang. Painfully insightful..

Maybe it's just where we were and what we needed at the time. Personally, I can't regret everything. I can't feel like I did it wrong or that it was all a mistake. I needed it all so badly. For a time, it was so deeply good for me. But then the heavens declared one chapter was over, and another began - one where I have to be more true to myself to be fulfilled.

Anyway.

Here's hoping good things for you.

Thank you Lance

I dont think I did anything wrong either, in regards to how I reacted during those stressful and frustrating times of my life. I did the best I could under the circumstances. Which might very well mean that my 2 exs needed me to be jerky during that time so that they could transmute and work through their issues.
My 1st boyfriend is doing very well for himself now, after a few dark years......
I hope hope hope that my exhusband finds peace and happiness. But happiness is not found at the bottom of a beer bottle.
For me I think the thing that is now in the front of my mind is how very important it is me to be me every breath I take.
When I compromise that
And not speak my truth
Its like a knot in a thread. It creates bumps and snags and little incongruencies that build up over time.
At my new job at the school I have been watching myself as I form all these new relationships with such a wide variety of types of people. In a very sterotypical pattern I find myself wanting to slip into preprogrammed manners of acting, but when I feel that I know its a red flag that my actions need to come from my authentic self and not try to mold or fit myself into others expectations or what I think are their expectations.
I have a beautiful life.
I always have.
Ive always known that.
I just have this super sensitive side that really takes things to heart.
The feeling of saturn on venus of disapointment in love and all those negative terms about disfigurement have more to do with my relationship with myself Then with others.

Thanks again for your support and encouragement

Arena · Post by **Arena** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:43 am

Thank you everyone for bearing with me as I muddled my way. I am so thankful that in my darkest hours I knew where to turn to see the light.

Its getting better. Its getting easier being alone and Im ferling that soon I maybe ready to have some friends and not have to hide myself and be who I really am.

I am glad to hear that your life is getting better after the difficult times you had to go through.
Sending you good vibrations my dear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYO1-gGWJyo

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:38 pm

Thank you Arena
I liked that song

I do love to sing.
Im listening to all kinds of new music on the radio.
I noticed that certain music gets me is certain moods and since I wanted a new mood I thought that songs Ive never heard before would be helpful. No automatic subconscious reaction.....just fresh new songs to try to learn to sing.

FlorencedeZ. · Post by **FlorencedeZ.** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:52 pm

Veronica wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:09 pm I dont think I did anything wrong either, in regards to how I reacted during those stressful and frustrating times of my life. I did the best I could under the circumstances. Which might very well mean that my 2 exs needed me to be jerky during that time so that they could transmute and work through their issues.

I think you are on to something Veronica, I have always believed that there is a reason we are in someone's life as well as the other way round. In my opinion you are such a wonderful person and you deserve the very best. And I think it was the best you did, to be jerky so that that your two exes could work through their issues. That is, if they were capable. Some have to leave as they are not. Keep going, you are doing really fine.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:11 pm

Thank you Flo! Your words are always a joy to read. Your very kind and I appreciate you sharing your feelings with me and I take them to heart.
When I talked to my ex Jason last year it was really nice to hear how he had met someone nice and had a family and a career he loved and passion for his beliefs. He didnt go after those things when we were together even though I had tried to encourage him. He just wanted sex and booze and drugs and ego stuff.

Ive always gardened. I love growing things.
When I plant a seed I whisper a prayer. As above so below. Dig your roots in and always grow up.
Reach for the stars and grow up.

Arena · Post by **Arena** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:22 pm

No automatic subconscious reaction.....just fresh new songs to try to learn to sing.

That's great Veronica. I've been singing a lot too... I even went to a singing session with a guy in the alternative medicine. Maybe you would enjoy sound healing. Something amazing seems to happen with that.

When I talked to my ex Jason last year it was really nice to hear how he had met someone nice and had a family and a career he loved and passion for his beliefs. He didnt go after those things when we were together even though I had tried to encourage him.

It does sometimes seem that some people are in each others lives simply to learn something, to grow through a lesson and then they move on. It's great that he has at least moved on to grow into a more productive life.
I've sometimes wondered when what you describe happens, that it's the result of a different synastry combined with his own difference in planetary energies through transits and solar arcs.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:45 pm

Many people have extended these words to me...."Wishing you the best."

I thought I would look at my natal chart and come up with some ideas of what would be best for me.

I came home from work to my daughter standing in the kitchen with a tupperware container with a very baby mouse in it. She asked me what was the best thing to do. I told her a mother mouse knows whats best for a baby mouse. We put the container in the basement where I know the mice go and said a prayer to God to do whats best. Even though this past winter I caught a dozen of them.

What is best for me?
What do I need....

Having someone to be nice to...to love to help to serve. My mars venus midpoint on the asc/dec shows how I thrive and am my best when I have someone to love. I have so much in me and niceness and just wish I had someone to love.

Balancing my contradictory nature of loving to be with people and my love of being alone. My angular sun vs my Angluar Pluto demands a balancing. My work subjects me to hundreds of people a day and it can be taxing on my sensitive nature. I need when I am not working to be able to do things quietly and alobe, or even not do anything at all and just decompress.

Balancing/harmonizing my feminine natures with my masculine natures. This is the obe I have been resisting and fighting against and the obe this years SSR has thrown in my face to get through. We all have a dual nature. My life so far has been one where I have had to be more masculine then feminine. Ive had to step up into masculine gender roles and do things traditionally held as mens work. Work work work. Im tired of wearing pabts and sneakers. Im tired of changing tires and fixing lawn mowers. I am a woman. I love pretty dresses and bangles and toenail polish and fancy shoes. I need more then anything to be a woman for once. I need a man to treat me like a lady. Which means I have to act like a lady. This one aspect...my venus trine saturn in my natal chart and the saturn venus pluto conjunction in this SSR. Has shown me that me being a tomboy has not led me to healthy relationship patterns and the only way I can see to break that is to be the Lady that I really am....not the pirate....not the bimbo....not the supermom...not the warrior. I need to be free to be the woman that I was born to be and I just hope that maybe there still is a nice romantic kind and good man who knows how to treat a lady.

To be in an environment that encourages my healthy growth and gently allows me to let go of things I no longer need. Part of being a lady is accepting that there are rhings and places I do not belong. I dont want to go to a tractor pull or a biker bar or hang out with the boys drinking beer. It makes me uncomfortable and defensive and like I have to be macho or strong. I want to go places where I can be soft and gentle and receptive and kind. Like flower stores or movie theathers or quiet picnics by a stream.

To dream of goals and aspirations that are based on reality and are attainable.
My whole Neptune moony thing gets my heart dreaming of fantastical things that have little basis in reality. I need to focus on what is an achievable goal, a realistic vision of where Id like to be in a month, in a year, in 3 years, in 10. Life has flown by and I trully am not young like I was. Dreaming is the most powerful creative thing we can do, besides having a baby. I want more then anything to have a baby but its unrealitic as I dont even have a man anymore. I need to find another creatice outlet for my need to love and nurture then.

There are some things in life you cant change, like your natal chart but there are somethings if you have courage you can change, like your expierence of a SSR.

I looked at my next years SSR which has Mars doing double duty in angles.
My last SLR had mars on the angles and I had to man up and man up and man up and work wirk wirk at things I really as a woman didnt not want to do. But I gad to step up bc I gave no man to do those things for me.

I was raised in a family where mom and dad were a team. Mom did the mom stuff and dad did the dad stuff. I need that. Thats whats best for me when I can do what I was put on this beautiful earth to do. Keep a home clean and pretty. Cook good food. Take care of my loved ones. Sing songs and dance. Be happy and cheerful and content.
I thrice and am my best when Im in love with my partner and know that he will do the guy stuff and I can do the girl stuff and then we can cometogether and truely have real intimacy unbound by venus saturn issues of disaapointment in love.

Arena,
I studied sound and healing years ago. Ted Andrews had a great book about it as did Johnathan Goldman (?). I got a lot out of it and understanding sound as light cleared up things for me. One of my favorite songs is Do Re Mi by Julie Andrews. You can sing anything if you xan sing that. She is remarkable. My Fair Lady is one of my all time favorites. Jim and Henry Higgins have much in common. This song kinda goes with what I was expressing above.https://youtu.be/q5fW7sERw7I

Arena · Post by **Arena** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:49 am

Did you have a look at your solar arcs?

Sound healing is indeed so very interesting. Am just starting to get familiar with it in the last few months. Never would have imagined how much sound can do to our within/spirit.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:18 am

I did look at what I think are my solar arcs last week or so when Steven mentioned my once in a life time trip to hell. (I use astro.com).

I was thinking about how it feels so sad so deep inside me about messing up things with Craig and how that hurts so much not to have him in my life. Steve said that usually after a hard hit in your charts you get a soft time.

Its been so hard and last months Lunar return really hurt. So I looked, hopefully, wishfully at those arcs and my next few luna4 returns for this year and then my solar return for next year.

My solar arc chart did give me a smile and the inspiration to not give up on love and having someone to love and genuinely loving myself.

When I was younger I loved being feminine and having pretty things and a nice home and getting dressed up and just being a woman. In my late teens and early 20s I felt so good about my self. My body. My mind. My spirit and I was very expressive having luxurious tastes in my home decorations and clothes and my food choices. I enduldged in silk sheets and lambwool rugs and art work and well.....my exotic tastes were evident everywhere.

I feel that part of coming back. Coming out. Its slow.

But what I saw in my solar arcs if I calculated it right looks nice. Its like the heavens said Here Girl put your wrentches away. Im gonna act as if its true. Fake it till you make it.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:36 am

Veronica wrote:

Fake it till you make it.

These words put a

on my face.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:53 pm

The first time I said them I wasnt feeling it yet. It was an idea that I was working towards. Its felt like a huge puzzle to sort out.

My Solar arc shows my natal mercury is getting close to exact opposite that angle that passed over my Saturn. So I've been thinking more in these past months then just feeling raw from saturn getting run over.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:45 pm

Veronica, I know this: Solar Arcs with the correct directional individual rate has not received its deserved attention by most of the astrological Branches (communities) in America/Europe, ever in the 20th Century. This includes Sidereal Astrology developed by Cyril Fagan and his colleagues in America. Somehow, Solar Arcs has slipped beneath the astrological radar of most astrologers.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:55 pm

I dont know about that Steve.
Your much more educated about astrology and its practical applications then me.
You may be right.

It may thats its one of those things that can hit so hard that you dont want to say anything and just let nature take its course......

What if.....
What if last year Jim or you or Danica or Jupiter or Arena ect ect told me on or about the day that I first reposted here after years of being away (and in fact the last time I contributed years ago was about Craig and the intensity of my feelings.) That I was in the midst of a once in a life time major Solar arc with my Angle Saturn and Pluto......

That I was going to feel the worst it was possible for me to feel. That my soul would be ripped in shreds. My dreams burned....all the stuff that I shared.....

How do you think I would have taken that information at that time? You linked me a song last year and I cried for days.....

Things get revealed in there propper time and in the propper manner. In the esoteric world there are things called blinds....incomplete information...like a little white lie...to obscure and deter destructive behaviors (IMO).

I appreciate and enjoy your enthusiams towards your discoveries. And I most certainly am grateful and appreciative that you looked into my chart and shared what you saw about them. I helped me in a very real way calm my stressed nerves and hush my mind by lwtting me honestly say, it was a phase...its over...you didnt die...you didnt kill anyone....you did your best....and you hobestly shared your expierence so that others who are going through hell can see that it will pass and things will get better with time. Depression fear anger and lonleyness feel like they are eternal and never ending when you are muck deep in them. But life has ups and downs and turn arounds and is a very short ride after all.

I personally dont think anything gets by Jim. He just refrains from saying things IME.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:44 am

Veronica, you raise some important points.

Veronica, I think most of the members on this forum are learning astrologers including myself, Solunars is an astrological forum. Members come to this forum to learn Astrology, particularly Sidereal Astrology, and Jim without a doubt is one of the leading astrologers in the world with knowledge about Sidereal Astrology. Jim is also very knowledgeable about other branches of Astrology, and shares his knowledge with these other branches of astrology. I love studying the history of astrology, and have recently come very intrigued about the history of Solar Arcs and how/why Solar Arcs have slipped by most astrologers learning radar, imo.

Noel Tyl wrote his book about the importance of Solar Arcs, and explains how to recognize certain Solar Arc time frames, but more importantly he explains to the astrologer how to approach important Solar Arcs with advising clients in a manner which is very humane, offering healing, understanding, and arms the client with foreknowledge which helps the client better manage their time and life with the good times and bad times of life. I feel Solar Arcs are very important for the learning astrologer to realize in order to help advise when consulted by friends, family members, and clients in order to help them better manage their lives with better understanding about TIME. I know this: There was a time in my life when I realized I was in for a very tough time with a Saturn stationed on my Ascendant in the most important Stockholder meeting of my life. This knowledge about a bad time in my life definitely helped me better prepare and manage my life. And recently I have come to the realizations with Solar Arcs techniques along with Jim's other observations about other Solar Arcs at this same time in my life, how the knowledge of Solar Arcs would have better prepared me to manage a bad time frame in my life.

It is in a learning/discovery spirit I post about Solar Arcs for when I learn, I want to share so other astrologers can learn, and posting actually helps me more with my own learning curve about Astrology. The main reason I am posting about Solar Arcs is my strong feeling Solar Arcs is a substantial improved tool for the learning astrologer, to help the astrologer see and understand better with their lives, as well to help other people with their lives who may consult them as astrologers. “Astrology has to be lived to be learned” and when an astrologer can take their own lives looking at Solar Arcs, they learn the importance of Solar Arc time frames.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:25 pm

My friend your preaching to the Choir.

Its sounds like the author of that book advises an astrologer to put on the hat of a highly skilled mental health professional who is trying to help a fellow human being with lifes ups and downs and responsibilities and contradictions in a healing and nurturing way......

Very Aquarian moony sounding.

My daughter has a severe angle and angle solar arc whammy in about 20 years.
Ive thought for a while now on how best to help her get through that.
I cane up wuth the same ol same ol I usually do.
Act loving and healthy and positive yourself and set a good example for her to choose to follow on her own.
Anything else I could do or say runs the risk of a self fullfilling prophecy.

Thanks again for sharing your very acute and important information, I have learned a lot and enjoy reading your findings.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:21 pm

Same here my forum friend, you were responsible for putting me on Townley's book 'Composite Charts.' Thanks

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:33 pm

Lotsa stress going on out there in my little world....

I wanted to note two things though....

Its my dads solar return in a few hours.
Transiting venus is sitting high on his MC angle......
Hes very ill and this most likely will be his last return.

The thing about how Venus loves the angle has been running through my mind for a few weeks now because it seems almost like a contradiction or a projection.....
It is true though...that important events and important relationships have this aspect.

Venus is about Eros love.
Yet I feel in my heart that Eros is the lower resonate frequency of Divine Love.....Agape.
Agape love seems so Aquarian to me as it is about Brotherly Love, love with no restrictions, total freedom ....the highest and deepest Love humanly possible.

My daughter today was dumped by her boyfriend of 10 months bc he likes someone else.
She is a wreck. A total wreck.
I looked at her chart today....and sure enough....venus is conjunct her Saturn.

Venus today is conjunct my Asc. Too.....
And as my family gatheted in an emergency meet up at my fathers to take him back again to the hospital....I feel that event/incident hitting me in the heart....as I had to cope with emotions that were stirred up because my SuperMan cant fly any more and my sibling are butthurt about past traumas they suffered .....and me having to man up again and go deal with towtrucks and cops and such and such...and feeling SO MUCH ANGER at the "Men Behind The Curtain" who drafted my dad and then blew him up with a landmine disabling him for life....when I got mad I felt in a huge hot flash all the blood leave my gut and flood into my arms and legs and away from the reasoning part of my brain.
I felt it....the fight or flight biological impulse try to take control of my body so I would act on my anger.
But I didnt.
I counted to five with 5 slow and easy breaths and didnt do or say anything stupid.

I think there is alot more to be said about the truth and reality about what it means when venus is on the angle bc while it feels good supperficially....there is an illusion to it. The mirror which is Venus symbol is to reflect what is shown into it.

I am so glad that I was able to show my daughter her transit on her chart and talk to her honestly about the different types of love.
I am also grateful that her lunar return was last week when jupiter was conjunct her pluto.....and not today...so that this will be a brief moment of pain for ger instead of a month of suffering.

FlorencedeZ. · Post by **FlorencedeZ.** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:27 pm

Ohww Veronica, you've got so much on your plate, I feel for you.
Wishing you every bit of strength towards your dad.
When my dad wasn't well, I also had Venus angular and the good thing was that within the family there was harmony and a soothing ambience, in that way Venus helps was my experience.
And hang in there with your daughter.
We don't want to see our daughter in pain, it's hard, I know.
She's lucky to have you as a mum, someone who understands.
For now, all the best.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:59 pm

Thanks Flo!!

As always I appreciate your kind and understanding words.

I had a bit of a aha moment when I read your post.

When you said
" youve got so much on your plate...."

My initial reaction was to say....from the ego...
"I have a big plate......"

But that wouldnt be the truth...
Ya see
I tossed my plate.....my dog uses it for a frisbee now.

All that stuff I just shared (and a whole bunch of stuff I didnt).....isnt my stuff.
Its my dads.....the culmination of his life and his choices.
Its my daughters....the stuff the universe is serving her right now.
It my sisters...and nieces...and ect ect ad nauseum....

I dont have to do anything for my dad....
I dont have to say anything to my daughter...

I only have to deal/cope/expierence what the universe is bringing directly to me....and I have a choice to make the most of it, rise and shine...or the worst of it....fall and run.

I may have 4 planets in the house of service but that does not me I have to/need to extend that out to others....espicially others who do not need or want it. That house placement seems to dictate that I serve myself first, my needs.

I was thinking about how we read synastry charts....first as one person being an "event" in the life of another....like a transit. A baby born today would have todays star map as a horoscope....how would I relate to that baby...how do I relate to todays transits...

My family members each have their own charts and together we have a synasty...a very real chemical reaction that shows how parts of our psyches give and take. I have the most loving and beautiful relationship with my sister....even though we are two extremely different people. She is an important event in my life just as I am. I didnt choose her (at least the conscious part didnt and I do hold the idea that our unconscious has set up relationships for us before we are born) . I just love her.

I think about all the people that I love so much...the ones I reach out to to say hi and are you doing ok do you need anything.....and I think of my own star chart...and its strenghts and weaknesses and contradictions and passages through time, and I think how those people, like my dad or my sister or my daughter somehow someway get some sort of need fullfilled from me, from how my chart interacts with theres, how we combine and composite our individual ness into something more them just two people.....it humbles me and makes me thankful and feeling blessed bc well Im challenging and moody and unconventional at times, but those people dont seem to care about that...in fact they seem to thrive when we interact...like I do.

I tossed my plate into the air bc I have this feeling in my gut, an unwavering faith, that the universe will feed me what I need...and pilling a plate up with this and that and all such and sundry...means that my hands are tied, my hands are too busy holding my plate and wont be able to wrap my arms around anyone who might need a hug.

We dont choose who we love. We choose what pair of panties to wear but we dont choose the people who come into our lives. We can choose how we respond to our feelings though.

Thankfully....I am off of work for the summer. I have no plans and no pressing responsibilities that I wont easily be able to meet. I intend on trying to get pictures of nature, espicially the cute Beavers across the street. I may take my two great nepgews for a few days and play Unicorn vs Leprechaun with them, or Calvin Ball. They are 5 and 7 and that is my favorite age for little boy michief and fun. Im done living a life I need a vacation from. Life is good. The Universe will provide me what I need and I know that if out there in the world there is anybody who needs an "event" like me in there lives the universe will conspire to bring that to be.

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback. Your words are always felt in my ❤

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:38 am

Is there any differentiation between which way an aspect is formed....

Ie...transitting Neptune is square my mars.
Neptune in my life started out at 8 degrees scopio....while mars was at 15.
Neptune transitted past my natal mars...and now has progressed up to the Mc area and is now squaring mars.

But...
I know some one who in a few years will have transitting neptune Square mars....yet neptune never crossed mars and is rising towards it...where as mine could be said to be setting away.

Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:48 pm

While I think there is some difference between a waxing square and a waning one, I also think it's so minor as to be generally unnoticeable in real lives. I also think over a period of a lifetime, we can notice the difference between waxing and waning aspects such as Mars transiting our Neptunes, but not Neptune transiting Mars. Just doesn't happen often enough to tell.

Grant Lewi wrote about waxing and waning squares. You might check his books. Be careful there. He was a Tropicalist.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:35 am

Jupe wrote:

I also think it's so minor as to be generally unnoticeable in real lives.

I agree. Unless it is wired in angular with a return chart. For example: I have t. Pluto approaching partile 180 to my Natal Mars. I am not worried about this transit unless I see it wrapped angular on one of my SLR's with a SLR malefic, or with my next SSR which it is not.